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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
February 27 2021 15:39 GMT
#321
On February 28 2021 00:35 swarminfestor wrote:
I think Reynor is pretty much like Dark, a cocky but funny guy.


I think they are complete opposites. Darks cockiness has a cool, mysterious, dark vibe. While Reynor comes of as goofy, priggish, and just plain annoying. But yeah, its subjective anyway.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#322
On February 28 2021 00:35 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:33 Xain0n wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:25 Xain0n wrote:
Tell me again how Dark was perfect and unbeatable guys.


Who used those two words - perfect and unbeatable?


Charoisaur said "perfect" at least twice, can't remember who said unbeatable. But that's the message that was conveyed, pretty much.

I honestly thought Dark being called "perfect" was kinda a meme

He is known for having blatantly suboptimal playstyles or strategies.

But if you described his run at the latest blizzcon, his super tournament win, or even his run here in the group stages, as "perfect" I don't think many would have thought otherwise.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#323
Zest should stop Reynor if it comes to that. Stats and Trap had him but they blew it.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
February 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#324
reynor is absolutely one of the most likeable players, I will not stand for anti-Italian prejudice
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
February 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#325
On February 28 2021 00:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:32 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:31 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Kespa should come back and put Stats and Dark to the jail immediately. Unforgivable screw ups against this annoying clown kid :/
Oh well, Rogue or Maru will have to do the job to protect the honor of Korea now


Inb4 Reynor vs. Clem finals.


Nah, never gonna happen. Clem does not have what it takes yet and Reynors luck will run out.
This is the world championship not some foreignland BS tourney.


I find that a bit condescending. I mean sure, Clem will have a hard time vs. TY but if Reynor can take out Dark he can take out Rogue. And Maru... well it's Maru. I wouldn't bet my money on him outside GSL.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33596 Posts
February 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#326
On February 28 2021 00:38 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:36 Xamo wrote:
Best series of the tornament so far? Clem vs Serral could be the other cadidate for now.

I think this was more tense, exciting and strange given how game 5 went, Clem vs Serral was of better quality across the sets though IMO


yeh, but you can rate "series" in a different way from "games"

It's like how the Life-sOs BlizzCon final was an amazing series with seven pretty mediocre-to-awful games
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
February 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#327
On February 28 2021 00:36 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:35 WombaT wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:31 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Kespa should come back and put Stats and Dark to the jail immediately. Unforgivable screw ups against this annoying clown kid :/
Oh well, Rogue or Maru will have to do the job to protect the honor of Korea now

Have we found the rare individual who doesn't find Reynor a likeable young man? :S

This is the guy who thought that yesterday was almost the best day in his life when Serral went out :D


You should probably learn to read mate
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 27 2021 15:42 GMT
#328
On February 28 2021 00:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:36 sneakyfox wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:29 IshinShishi wrote:
I think its safe to say that at this point in time Reynor is indeed better than Serral

which wouldn't make Serral a bad player by any means. Reynor has that tiny edge of confidence boost, skillwise the highest level players (Zest, Trap, Dark, Rogue, Maru, Reynor, Serral, Clem...) look very close.


Not mentioning TY? You heretic!

he's there, I probably forgot some others. Wasn't trying to do anything exhaustive


Fair, but don't think you forgot anyone else.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
February 27 2021 15:42 GMT
#329
I still want all of these series without ping again (hopefully next iem), still feels like ping is deffo a factor in some games and the non ping affected games often tend to look better.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 27 2021 15:42 GMT
#330
Honestly hoping a Korean wins because we'll never hear the end of how it didn't matter anyways because it was online if a non-Korean wins.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 27 2021 15:43 GMT
#331
On February 28 2021 00:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:36 sneakyfox wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:29 IshinShishi wrote:
I think its safe to say that at this point in time Reynor is indeed better than Serral

which wouldn't make Serral a bad player by any means. Reynor has that tiny edge of confidence boost, skillwise the highest level players (Zest, Trap, Dark, Rogue, Maru, Reynor, Serral, Clem...) look very close.


Not mentioning TY? You heretic!

he's there, I probably forgot some others. Wasn't trying to do anything exhaustive


Fair, but don't think you forgot anyone else.

at least Stats, even if we're going to lose him soon
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4417 Posts
February 27 2021 15:43 GMT
#332
On February 28 2021 00:40 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:32 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:31 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Kespa should come back and put Stats and Dark to the jail immediately. Unforgivable screw ups against this annoying clown kid :/
Oh well, Rogue or Maru will have to do the job to protect the honor of Korea now


Inb4 Reynor vs. Clem finals.


Nah, never gonna happen. Clem does not have what it takes yet and Reynors luck will run out.
This is the world championship not some foreignland BS tourney.


I find that a bit condescending. I mean sure, Clem will have a hard time vs. TY but if Reynor can take out Dark he can take out Rogue. And Maru... well it's Maru. I wouldn't bet my money on him outside GSL.


Maru has achieved far more than Reynor even without his GSL results.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 27 2021 15:43 GMT
#333
On February 28 2021 00:38 Nakajin wrote:
If Maru win next, surely Reynor is the overwhelming favorite to win the whole thing?

I think he is already right? His biggest threat is Rogue but after he beat Dark I think he's the favourite there.

He's not losing a ZvT.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-27 15:45:03
February 27 2021 15:43 GMT
#334
On February 28 2021 00:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:38 WombaT wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:36 Xamo wrote:
Best series of the tornament so far? Clem vs Serral could be the other cadidate for now.

I think this was more tense, exciting and strange given how game 5 went, Clem vs Serral was of better quality across the sets though IMO


yeh, but you can rate "series" in a different way from "games"

It's like how the Life-sOs BlizzCon final was an amazing series with seven pretty mediocre-to-awful games

Its hard for a high stake close match to not be exciting to watch live, but that is because of the stakes and not knowing what will happen. I don't think it makes a good series tho. Sure i was glued to the screen when it was live but I'd never watch it again.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 27 2021 15:44 GMT
#335
I wanted Dark to win with his earlier play this tournament, but my heart cannot let me root against Reynor. He looks so happy with his win :D
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 27 2021 15:44 GMT
#336
On February 28 2021 00:43 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:38 Nakajin wrote:
If Maru win next, surely Reynor is the overwhelming favorite to win the whole thing?

I think he is already right? His biggest threat is Rogue but after he beat Dark I think he's the favourite there.

He's not losing a ZvT.


I think Clem could definitely beat Reynor but I also don't think Clem will make it to the finals.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33596 Posts
February 27 2021 15:45 GMT
#337
Honestly I wasn't so convinced with Rogue's group stage performance, and I'm not on board the "world champion-mode Rogue is here" train quite yet. Maru's form also hasn't been great in the last few months.

this one is a toss-up for me :0
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
February 27 2021 15:45 GMT
#338
On February 28 2021 00:43 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:38 Nakajin wrote:
If Maru win next, surely Reynor is the overwhelming favorite to win the whole thing?

I think he is already right? His biggest threat is Rogue but after he beat Dark I think he's the favourite there.

He's not losing a ZvT.


A big gabe in a amazing form was pretty close to do it.
I don't think Reynor is even favorite against Maru.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26742 Posts
February 27 2021 15:45 GMT
#339
On February 28 2021 00:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:38 WombaT wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:36 Xamo wrote:
Best series of the tornament so far? Clem vs Serral could be the other cadidate for now.

I think this was more tense, exciting and strange given how game 5 went, Clem vs Serral was of better quality across the sets though IMO


yeh, but you can rate "series" in a different way from "games"

It's like how the Life-sOs BlizzCon final was an amazing series with seven pretty mediocre-to-awful games

Yeah rewatching some of the classics after the fact that does become painfully apparent.

What series are both incredible from a drama and narrative sense while also containing some truly great games too? Mvp vs Squirtle would come to mind immediately for me
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
February 27 2021 15:45 GMT
#340
On February 28 2021 00:40 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2021 00:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:32 JoeCool wrote:
On February 28 2021 00:31 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Kespa should come back and put Stats and Dark to the jail immediately. Unforgivable screw ups against this annoying clown kid :/
Oh well, Rogue or Maru will have to do the job to protect the honor of Korea now


Inb4 Reynor vs. Clem finals.


Nah, never gonna happen. Clem does not have what it takes yet and Reynors luck will run out.
This is the world championship not some foreignland BS tourney.


I find that a bit condescending. I mean sure, Clem will have a hard time vs. TY but if Reynor can take out Dark he can take out Rogue. And Maru... well it's Maru. I wouldn't bet my money on him outside GSL.

Maru is playing from Korea, I am not sure that "he's awful at international tournaments" applies in this tournament.
If he can beat Rogue he is my favourite.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
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