[TSL6] Championship Sunday! - Page 16

On December 21 2020 08:15 stilt wrote:


Yes, I particulary like their ability to counter attack thanks to their insane mobility offcreep

On December 21 2020 08:15 stilt wrote:


Yes, I particulary like their ability to counter attack thanks to their insane mobility offcreep

On December 21 2020 08:17 Sif_ wrote:


Thats your counter to 'queens are too strong'? lol, i guess that just proves the point

On December 21 2020 08:19 stilt wrote:


I don't need any counters to your stupid hyperbolic statement.

On December 21 2020 08:19 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:


This.

Sure, they are strong defensively. Sort of expected if you're putting 1.5K minerals and 20 supply into a unit with low DPS that isn't crossing the map.

On December 21 2020 08:24 Bagration wrote:


But a unit that is too strong defensively destroys the balance of the game nevertheless. Zerg by design is a reactive race - the player needs balance when to drone vs. when to make units.

The queen allows the Zerg to drone with limited fear - making queens doesn't require gas or even larva. As a result, nowadays there's no point to the early game - short of a full-on bunker rush / proxy rax / cannon rush / other cheese, it's just macro until the mid / late game, since queens can handle most types of attacks (or at least buy enough time for a round of lings)

On December 21 2020 08:21 Sif_ wrote:


Yet, you did try, huh....

On December 21 2020 08:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeah Dark! That's one! Two more!

On December 21 2020 08:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


That's not true though--zerg players do still routinely die in the early midgame to tank pushes and whatnot.

On December 21 2020 08:32 Bagration wrote:


But that's more of the mid-game IMO - the early game is basically dead unless a player decides to cheese. I'm talking marine / marauder vs. ling-bling-roach - tier 1 vs. tier 1 units

Maybe I'm becoming overly nostalgic, but I did prefer the variety of having both long macro games AND games with early aggro. I think the trend has been to make defense super easy (e.g., queens, shield batteries) so that there's more long macro games because back in 2010-2011, those were the super cool epic games.

But when every game is a longer macro game that goes into the late game, it doesn't feel as special anymore. Just my 2 cents - maybe I'm being too much of an old-timer ;p

On December 21 2020 08:32 Bagration wrote:


But that's more of the mid-game IMO - the early game is basically dead unless a player decides to cheese. I'm talking marine / marauder vs. ling-bling-roach - tier 1 vs. tier 1 units

Maybe I'm becoming overly nostalgic, but I did prefer the variety of having both long macro games AND games with early aggro. I think the trend has been to make defense super easy (e.g., queens, shield batteries) so that there's more long macro games because back in 2010-2011, those were the super cool epic games.

But when every game is a longer macro game that goes into the late game, it doesn't feel as special anymore. Just my 2 cents - maybe I'm being too much of an old-timer ;p