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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 12 2020 20:39 GMT
#201
Man, what strategic victory by Serral. Surprised that Dark committed so hard to the inferior unit composition - late-game ling ultra is basically hard countered by lurkers w/ support
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy87 Posts
December 12 2020 20:39 GMT
#202
Euro ZvZ!
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
December 12 2020 20:40 GMT
#203
no yoinks, no win
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-12 20:41:57
December 12 2020 20:40 GMT
#204
A game where Dark kept thinking "it's too late to transition into anything else" until it was actually true

You have to keep in mind that from Dark's POV it can be hard to accurately judge your own position, and know whether or not you can realistically commit to belatedly matching the Lurker comp.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
December 12 2020 20:40 GMT
#205
Hopefully Maru vs. Parting will be less facepalm-y
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 12 2020 20:41 GMT
#206
Ultras are a funny unit. They feel unstoppable when in the open and like the worst unit in the game when attacking into buildings.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
December 12 2020 20:41 GMT
#207
On December 13 2020 05:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Hopefully Maru vs. Parting will be less facepalm-y


Maru's nursing an injury and Parting has a grudge.

I'm not expecting a great series.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-12 20:42:58
December 12 2020 20:41 GMT
#208
On December 13 2020 05:37 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2020 05:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 13 2020 05:34 Charoisaur wrote:
this is like Reynor vs Serral from last years Blizzcon


Yeah. No range upgrades means you have to go ultra after muta, and ultras are what they are.

there must be better options than this though......
This is just sad to watch


It's either this, brood lords, or lurker/hydra while down three upgrades--pick your poison.

On December 13 2020 05:41 royalroadweed wrote:
Ultras are a funny unit. They feel unstoppable when in the open and like the worst unit in the game when attacking into buildings.


Do they feel unstoppable in the open? They look mildly playable in the open, but I wouldn't give them more credit than that.
rayl991
Profile Joined August 2019
Afghanistan80 Posts
December 12 2020 20:43 GMT
#209
On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.

It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?


Not to mention fast siege, invisible when siege, does not deal friendly splash dmg. Poorly design unit when compared to other siege unit.
rayl991
Profile Joined August 2019
Afghanistan80 Posts
December 12 2020 20:43 GMT
#210
On December 13 2020 05:43 rayl991 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.

It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?


Not to mention fast siege, invisible when siege, does not deal friendly splash dmg. Poorly design unit when compared to other similar siege units.

Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
December 12 2020 20:44 GMT
#211
Maru vs Parting? I thought Maru was gonna forfeit this because of his injury
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rayl991
Profile Joined August 2019
Afghanistan80 Posts
December 12 2020 20:44 GMT
#212
On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.

It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?


Not to mention fast siege, invisible when siege, does not deal friendly splash dmg. Poorly design unit when compared to other similar siege units.

Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-12 20:46:08
December 12 2020 20:45 GMT
#213
On December 13 2020 05:44 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru vs Parting? I thought Maru was gonna forfeit this because of his injury


Team NV followed up and said Maru would play out TSL6
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-12 20:50:16
December 12 2020 20:46 GMT
#214
On December 13 2020 05:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:
On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:
On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today.


It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ.
In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup.

when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup
when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky


More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh?


weird when Serral loses continously to Reynor you just say Reynor stylistically matches up well vs him and not that Reynor is superior


That's just a lie. I have never said that Reynor's playstyle matches well against Serral's and also never said that he lives in Serral's mind or something else.

By the way, feels like Serral is still better than Dark in ZvZ when it comes to standard comps and lategame management.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-12 20:50:14
December 12 2020 20:49 GMT
#215
On December 13 2020 05:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:
On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:
On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today.


It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ.
In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup.

when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup
when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky


More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh?


weird when Serral loses continously to Reynor you just say Reynor stylistically matches up well vs him and not that Reynor is superior


Well, Reynor had a tricky style which caught off guard Serral a few time but in 18/19 he sure wasn't as good as him overall.
That said, I was quite annoyed at the people who said during the summer that serral was losing to reynor because of his style while it was pretty evident that the spaghetti boy has massively improved.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
December 12 2020 20:50 GMT
#216
Is there any kind of rule where you forfeit your prize money if you don't show up? If there is, i can see Maru just getting up to lose quickly and not damage his shoulders too much.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
December 12 2020 20:50 GMT
#217
Foreigners doing pretty well against Koreans in this round.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
December 12 2020 20:51 GMT
#218
On December 13 2020 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2020 05:44 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru vs Parting? I thought Maru was gonna forfeit this because of his injury


Team NV followed up and said Maru would play out TSL6


in one hand I wanna see maru play.... but on the other I dont want him to break himself neither
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
December 12 2020 20:51 GMT
#219
Serral shitting his pants at the thought of playing Maru
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
December 12 2020 20:51 GMT
#220
On December 13 2020 05:50 Sif_ wrote:
Is there any kind of rule where you forfeit your prize money if you don't show up? If there is, i can see Maru just getting up to lose quickly and not damage his shoulders too much.


I mean if you just forfeit because of injury you will still be payed out, its not like Maru hasnt got a choice
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