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Man TSL 6 music just can't hold a candle to TSL 5 music
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ShoWTimE and HeRoMaRinE ♥ Plz surprise me and win
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is Maru going to play?
edit: yes, NV posted on instagram that he wanted to play his scheduled game for tsl
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gabe playing from rottis house probably a bit hungover btw, if you want some excuses ready
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The ingame sound is kinda fucked or is it just me?
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I don't know that TY could have had a much worse build against what Showtime was doing if he tried.
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Accidental second ghost academy = may as well make nukes?
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I love the battle report chart
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Showtime is trying really hard to give TY a shot here
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This game is pretty damn messy
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ShoWTimE seems to be avoiding going skytoss, but he doesn't appear to have better ideas...
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On December 13 2020 01:25 irvnasty wrote:
ShoWTimE seems to be avoiding going skytoss, but he doesn't appear to have better ideas...
he made +1 air he just feared to die to this push out
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Terrans getting farmed by protoss this week, dunno if TY will come back with how showtime is playing lately gg!
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Showtime almost went full foreigner there. Glad he won the first game!
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Given that this game was close after TY had a disastrous early game I'm actually worried for Showtime now.
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Well, he got there in the end. TY's games today have been more aggressive than makes sense to me. I'm not sure why he's not just getting to 90 SCVs and going late against protoss, at least when he's not playing Trap or Stats.
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I wonder if it was prudent for TY to actually go on the offensive there, instead of just continuing to play defensive. Then again, maybe his experience says Fleet Beacon tech is going to screw him over if he turtles for TOO long.
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On December 13 2020 01:28 Elentos wrote:
Given that this game was close after TY had a disastrous early game I'm actually worried for Showtime now.
Yeah, this is sort of how I feel. The one exception is that TY continues to play the early game in a way that puts him behind against protoss. It's completely conceivable that TY will be behind in every game given the approach he's shown today.
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On December 13 2020 01:29 irvnasty wrote:
I'm not sure why he's not just getting to 90 SCVs and going late against protoss, at least when he's not playing Trap or Stats.
The easy explanation for that would be that he thinks that's a shit idea.
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On December 13 2020 01:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 01:29 irvnasty wrote:
I'm not sure why he's not just getting to 90 SCVs and going late against protoss, at least when he's not playing Trap or Stats. The easy explanation for that would be that he thinks that's a shit idea.
Sure. But he's been smashed in four consecutive games against protoss today, so there's that.
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1-1, TYing it up 
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That was a nonsense fight for TY to take
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On December 13 2020 01:47 Elentos wrote:
That was a nonsense fight for TY to take
Yeah, I don't understand what he thought was gonna happen lol
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That zealot flank was BEAUTIFUL.
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If TY had a few ghosts (and micro'd his army) this is a totally different game. But he's really playing into Showtime's 25 zealot A-move armies.
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On December 13 2020 01:51 Pandemona wrote:Damn i should have used that for twitter lol! Im bad at thinking of puns 
Haha I'm sure you'll have plenty more opportunities to practice those puns 
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On December 13 2020 01:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 01:51 Pandemona wrote:On December 13 2020 01:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:1-1, TYing it up Damn i should have used that for twitter lol! Im bad at thinking of puns Haha I'm sure you'll have plenty more opportunities to practice those puns
Time to level up and become Pundemona.
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Ty so deseperate he needs to proxy starport hellion drop?
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On December 13 2020 01:54 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 01:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 13 2020 01:51 Pandemona wrote:On December 13 2020 01:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:1-1, TYing it up Damn i should have used that for twitter lol! Im bad at thinking of puns Haha I'm sure you'll have plenty more opportunities to practice those puns Time to level up and become Pundemona.
He already leveled up compared to last week, he thought about making the thread this time unlike super tournament 
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It's time for TY to play mech btw, be a MAN
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On December 13 2020 01:54 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 01:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 13 2020 01:51 Pandemona wrote:On December 13 2020 01:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:1-1, TYing it up Damn i should have used that for twitter lol! Im bad at thinking of puns Haha I'm sure you'll have plenty more opportunities to practice those puns Time to level up and become Pundemona.
All it takes is a good Plandemona to make that punny Pandemoney.
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On December 13 2020 01:55 Hider wrote:
Ty so deseperate he needs to proxy starport hellion drop?
isnt that one of his mainstay builds? doesnt seem desperate to me at all
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On December 13 2020 01:57 Andi_Goldberger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 01:55 Hider wrote:
Ty so deseperate he needs to proxy starport hellion drop? isnt that one of his mainstay builds? doesnt seem desperate to me at all
Wasnt hard to counter by showtime. I guess he kinda went for counter-build.
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I'm so surprised all the casters bet on TY tbh I figured what with TY 0-3 Neeb and Showtime 3-1 Inno being relatively recent results at least one of them would bet Showtime.
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On December 13 2020 02:04 Elentos wrote:
I'm so surprised all the casters bet on TY tbh I figured what with TY 0-3 Neeb and Showtime 3-1 Inno being relatively recent results at least one of them would bet Showtime.
All of them also bet on Zest, plebs
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2 colossi on one hp. Might as well kill them yourself and make your opponent's vikings useless
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On December 13 2020 02:04 Elentos wrote:
I'm so surprised all the casters bet on TY tbh I figured what with TY 0-3 Neeb and Showtime 3-1 Inno being relatively recent results at least one of them would bet Showtime.
ShoWTimE sneaky bad TvP win-rate lately, regardless of Aligulac score being high ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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maybe I'm biased toward it but I feel like on 5 base Showtime should have gotten +1 air and a bunch of stargates minutes ago
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On December 13 2020 02:10 Elentos wrote:
Blink DTs are so dumb
It's Shadow Stride, filthy casual
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Sending units in 3 different directions then not paying attention to any of them at the right time is truly GSL champion level play
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Sad series but expected :/
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That was a pretty fun game to watch, with both armies getting whittled down repeatedly, and lots of action... I think Showtime's better economy was the reason why he outlasted TY in game four.
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Woow ShowTime ) Clearly the better player in this series. Doesn't mean either player played particularly well though
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happy for showtime after coming so close vs maru! tobias kämpfend!
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depsite all his cleverness TYTY lose O.o
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On December 13 2020 02:16 Argonauta wrote:
depsite all his cleverness TYTY lose O.o
No amount of cleverness can make up for playing much worse than your opponent.
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Playing Brood War has his downsides it seems!
Not sure why it affected TY's TvP the most, to this extenct.
On the other hand, DIE MAUER!
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On December 13 2020 02:18 Xain0n wrote:
Playing Brood War has his downsides it seems!
Not sure why it affected TY's TvP the most, to this extenct.
On the other hand, DIE MAUER!
I mean I would say TvP has the least things in common between BW and SC2 out of the 3 Terran MUs. And it's already a MU Terrans especially in Korea will never tire of telling you they hate.
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Also if Ragnarok beats Zest TY will most likely be out in losers round 1 and I can't wait to see how many bracket predictions that will ruin since apparently people also thought TY would beat Trap in ST.
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Sneaky Elazer being sneaky.
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Why aren´t they playing the korea vs. korea matchups first? Wouldn´t that be better because of the time zone? Or are they casting of replays?
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On December 13 2020 02:28 Rob-Zero wrote:
Why aren´t they playing the korea vs. korea matchups first? Wouldn´t that be better because of the time zone? Or are they casting of replays?
In Korea vs Korea neither player has a time zone advantage whereas in Korea vs non-KR one player does
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Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true?
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches?
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On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches?
I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant.
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On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true?
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches?
Day 4 is tomorrow.
Also what officially counts as mech? I asked in the thread and got no answer
R I G G E D
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Guys btw by transitive properties Elazer >>> Rogue
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Let 12/12/2020 be known as the Protoss day
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On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant.
same dilemma tomorrow, regardless
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On December 13 2020 02:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:28 Rob-Zero wrote:
Why aren´t they playing the korea vs. korea matchups first? Wouldn´t that be better because of the time zone? Or are they casting of replays? In Korea vs Korea neither player has a time zone advantage whereas in Korea vs non-KR one player does
Aah I see, didn´t think about it that way. Thanks!
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On December 13 2020 02:30 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true?
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? Day 4 is tomorrow. Also what officially counts as mech? I asked in the thread and got no answer R I G G E D
Even TL being sneaky. Everyone sneaky today.
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That game was more one-sided than a mobius strip.
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On December 13 2020 02:32 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant. same dilemma tomorrow, regardless
This is barely a dilemma considering "positive win rate" meaning "above 50%" is generally accepted. It's far harder to say what counts as mech
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This is the worst build I've ever seen
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On December 13 2020 02:37 Elentos wrote:
This is the worst build I've ever seen
But that means you've seen it!
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Elazer's game two plan was... uhhh... something. I'm glad that didn't actually work out lol
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kinda interesting at least ^^
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On December 13 2020 02:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:32 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant. same dilemma tomorrow, regardless This is barely a dilemma considering "positive win rate" meaning "above 50%" is generally accepted. It's far harder to say what counts as mech
equal to OR above, or strictly above?
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On December 13 2020 02:40 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:34 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:32 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant. same dilemma tomorrow, regardless This is barely a dilemma considering "positive win rate" meaning "above 50%" is generally accepted. It's far harder to say what counts as mech equal to OR above, or strictly above?
BUT WHAT COUNTS AS MECH
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On December 13 2020 02:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Elazer's game two plan was... uhhh... something. I'm glad that didn't actually work out lol
He was trying to 2 hatch hydra bust a former Brood War pro in SC2
There was nothing right about what Elazer was doing.
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On December 13 2020 02:40 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:34 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:32 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant. same dilemma tomorrow, regardless This is barely a dilemma considering "positive win rate" meaning "above 50%" is generally accepted. It's far harder to say what counts as mech equal to OR above, or strictly above?
Strictly above. "Equal to or above" is equivalent to a non-negative winrate, not a positive winrate.
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On December 13 2020 02:40 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:34 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:32 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant. same dilemma tomorrow, regardless This is barely a dilemma considering "positive win rate" meaning "above 50%" is generally accepted. It's far harder to say what counts as mech equal to OR above, or strictly above?
The ej joke, oh no
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On December 13 2020 02:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:40 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:34 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:32 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:30 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:29 Waxangel wrote:
Harstem said "Foreigners will have a positive win rate in series against Koreans on Day 4."
Now, do we go the LITERAL interpretation and say any win-rate over 0% makes this true? Then ShoWTimE already fulfilled this condition.
Or do we go with what was likely to be Harstem's IMPLICATION, which is that foreigners will win 50% or more of their matches? I have bolded the part that makes your comment irrelevant. same dilemma tomorrow, regardless This is barely a dilemma considering "positive win rate" meaning "above 50%" is generally accepted. It's far harder to say what counts as mech equal to OR above, or strictly above? Strictly above. "Equal to or above" is equivalent to a non-negative winrate, not a positive winrate.
You can't even get 50% series win rate with 3 series anyway.
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Elazer is going to use swarm hosts without nydus in a deliberate attempt to troll Harstem.
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As long as Elazer doesn't try something super cheesy in both games four and five, like he did in game two, he should have this series.
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On December 13 2020 02:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
As long as Elazer doesn't try something super cheesy in both games four and five, like he did in game two, he should have this series.
But what if Stats gets his shit together
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i really dont know why swarm host is still in this game
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I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events
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Time to reopen the thread seeker
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On December 13 2020 02:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events
Hypothetically speaking, could you blame Stats for not being full power mega tryhard mode after playing an offline tournament final a few hours ago?
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On December 13 2020 02:53 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events Hypothetically speaking, could you blame Stats for not being full power mega tryhard mode after playing an offline tournament final a few hours ago?
ofc not.
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On December 13 2020 02:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
As long as Elazer doesn't try something super cheesy in both games four and five, like he did in game two, he should have this series.
Dunno, the Hydra-thingie would prolly have done okay against a tech-ier protoss build
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On December 13 2020 02:53 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events Hypothetically speaking, could you blame Stats for not being full power mega tryhard mode after playing an offline tournament final a few hours ago?
yeah, guy's not byun and he had just 2 draining series before this one. And it's already 3AM in Korea
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On December 13 2020 02:54 SamirDuran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:53 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events Hypothetically speaking, could you blame Stats for not being full power mega tryhard mode after playing an offline tournament final a few hours ago? yeah, guy's not byun and he had just 2 draining series before this one. And it's already 3AM in Korea
so you're saying he could never win a WCS Circuit championship  ?
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On December 13 2020 02:56 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:54 SamirDuran wrote:On December 13 2020 02:53 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events Hypothetically speaking, could you blame Stats for not being full power mega tryhard mode after playing an offline tournament final a few hours ago? yeah, guy's not byun and he had just 2 draining series before this one. And it's already 3AM in Korea so you're saying he could never win a WCS Circuit championship ?
What gave it away, Stats being Korean?
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On December 13 2020 02:57 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 02:56 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 02:54 SamirDuran wrote:On December 13 2020 02:53 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 02:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are really trying their hardest in those online events Hypothetically speaking, could you blame Stats for not being full power mega tryhard mode after playing an offline tournament final a few hours ago? yeah, guy's not byun and he had just 2 draining series before this one. And it's already 3AM in Korea so you're saying he could never win a WCS Circuit championship ? What gave it away, Stats being Korean?
LMAO
If I don't get an official answer at to what counts as mech I'm suing TL btw
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Did I miss a nydus in the first three games or what
Also even if it was the 2nd one, this could technically still go to game 5 and Elazer could make a THIRD nydus there
STREAM IS WRONG AND RIGGED!
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Welp. With regards to predictions this is TSL5 all over again.
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AFAIK Stats had previous joked about how the Korean Zergs were complaining about how strong the 2/3 Stargate/Void Ray open in PvZ is too good, and then just beating him with Nydus-Queen all-ins in qualifiers immediately after.
This is just what I read on forums; not that I actually watched the stream ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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On December 13 2020 03:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Welp. With regards to predictions this is TSL5 all over again.
Well nobody will ever take the week 1 win from you
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Why is no one talking about the stream LYING TO US
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Hope there's a lot of downtime today, I've just finished with Super Tournament and now I need to catch up on this one  .
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On December 13 2020 03:05 Durnuu wrote:
Why is no one talking about the stream LYING TO US
Left-wing activists trying to steal our bets from us, SO SAD
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On December 13 2020 03:04 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 03:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Welp. With regards to predictions this is TSL5 all over again. Well nobody will ever take the week 1 win from you
Yeah thank goodness the schedule meant week 1 was a separate competition.
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Fortunately players from a lot of races are making moves and engaging lawsuits to keep them from stealing these bets from us. We won these bets, by a landslide !
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Wait, there are interviews? Did I miss the Showtime interview?
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Elazer is the great enemy of Harstem's predictions. He nydus'd in one game instead of 2 AND he sent Stats to the loser bracket where he's likely to face Heromarine on day 4 who he's favored over. I'm sure Elazer also got a Terran on his payroll who's going to play mech.
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Elazer with the classic IdrA "he won because he played incorrectly"
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On December 13 2020 03:12 Elentos wrote:
Elazer is the great enemy of Harstem's predictions. He nydus'd in one game instead of 2 AND he sent Stats to the loser bracket where he's likely to face Heromarine on day 4 who he's favored over. I'm sure Elazer also got a Terran on his payroll who's going to play mech.
ha ha that's true ^^
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On December 13 2020 03:10 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wait, there are interviews? Did I miss the Showtime interview?
I didn't see one from Showtime.
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On December 13 2020 03:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 03:10 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wait, there are interviews? Did I miss the Showtime interview? I didn't see one from Showtime.
Yeah there wasn't one for him.
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Oh boy Korean hive tech ZvZ
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There goes my prediction bracket and there goes my #false
No dope Liquid clothing for me I guess :/
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the european caster not knowing what an "alley-oop" is
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Rogue still best ZvZ in KR :0
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Whoa, how did he hold that so well? It seemed like Solar's lings all disappeared in a flash
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The holds over the past two games have been nail biters!
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korean zvz box lasting longer than 30 minutes? are we witnessing history?
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Not caught up yet, but I just watched Elazer's game where he tried to Hydra bust Stat's natural like it was a Brood War game, and I thought it was necessary to register my confusion for posterity.
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On December 13 2020 04:10 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Not caught up yet, but I just watched Elazer's game where he tried to Hydra bust Stat's natural like it was a Brood War game, and I thought it was necessary to register my confusion for posterity.
You are in very good company.
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Dark is so inconsistent lately... I dont expect a single game win from him
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On December 13 2020 04:22 Argonauta wrote:
Dark is so inconsistent lately... I dont expect a single game win from him
I dunno, he's pretty consistently bad imo
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Not a matchup we've seen much. I hope Dark's ZvZ is stronger at the moment than his ZvT.
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the tl lr thread jinx - classic
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On December 13 2020 04:29 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
the tl lr thread jinx - classic
Where? In Serral vs. Dark? We're only on game two; Serral could totally win the series lol
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Nydusing 3 queens across the map to kill a muta player is an interesting call.
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On December 13 2020 04:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:29 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
the tl lr thread jinx - classic
Where? In Serral vs. Dark? We're only on game two; Serral could totally win the series lol
"I dont expect a single game win from him"
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On December 13 2020 04:29 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
the tl lr thread jinx - classic
I try my best
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Dark cancelling +1 melee to get a faster spire may have actually made the difference in having enough mutas out in time. Impressive stuff from him, but a little bit bewildering from Serral. Seems like he has a bit of PTSD from playing against Reynor's muta styles and just doesn't ever want to be put on his heels by muta play.
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On December 13 2020 04:31 Andi_Goldberger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On December 13 2020 04:29 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
the tl lr thread jinx - classic
Where? In Serral vs. Dark? We're only on game two; Serral could totally win the series lol "I dont expect a single game win from him"
Oh, touche.
I'll try: I don't expect an epic five-game series in every single one of today's remaining matches.
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On December 13 2020 04:30 Elentos wrote:
Nydusing 3 queens across the map to kill a muta player is an interesting call.
just seems like a dumb nydus-loading mistake? damn, he's making a lot of those dumb mistakes lately
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On December 13 2020 04:36 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:30 Elentos wrote:
Nydusing 3 queens across the map to kill a muta player is an interesting call. just seems like a dumb nydus-loading mistake? damn, he's making a lot of those dumb mistakes lately
I don't think he actually had more queens than that. And no other anti-air either.
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On December 13 2020 04:39 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:36 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 04:30 Elentos wrote:
Nydusing 3 queens across the map to kill a muta player is an interesting call. just seems like a dumb nydus-loading mistake? damn, he's making a lot of those dumb mistakes lately I don't think he actually had more queens than that. And no other anti-air either.
brb calling my good friend serral
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On December 13 2020 04:39 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:39 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 04:36 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 04:30 Elentos wrote:
Nydusing 3 queens across the map to kill a muta player is an interesting call. just seems like a dumb nydus-loading mistake? damn, he's making a lot of those dumb mistakes lately I don't think he actually had more queens than that. And no other anti-air either. brb calling my good friend serral
Call your good friends at TL and ask them what counts as mech instead
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Dark hears your slander and he is not impressed.
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Dark 2-0 vs. Serral so far! One more!!!
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Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today.
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Well, then. Dark just refuses to play roach wars and that's making the difference.
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On December 13 2020 04:45 irvnasty wrote:
Well, then. Dark just refuses to play roach wars and that's making the difference.
refusing to use his favorite unit, big brain play
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That shouldn't happen right? Corrupters should win or am i missing something lol
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On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today.
It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ.
In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup.
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Does roach/corruptor count as mech?
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I did not expect serral to lose to anyone besides reynor in a zvz
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On December 13 2020 04:46 Pandemona wrote:
That shouldn't happen right? Corrupters should win or am i missing something lol
well, factoring in number of units and upgrades it wasnt that suprising,
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On December 13 2020 04:47 Sif_ wrote:
I did not expect serral to lose to anyone besides reynor in a zvz
Lost twice to Elazer, once to Lambo and Rogue in 2020.
Also, this one is a bo5.
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On December 13 2020 04:46 Pandemona wrote:
That shouldn't happen right? Corrupters should win or am i missing something lol
the counter relationship between mutas and corruptors isn't AS hard as some other units, and Dark had a loooot more mutas
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On December 13 2020 04:47 Durnuu wrote:
Does roach/corruptor count as mech?
They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran.
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On December 13 2020 04:48 Elentos wrote:They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran.
Hellbat-medivac all-in: mech
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On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup.
when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup
when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky
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On December 13 2020 04:48 Elentos wrote:They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran.
Serral played Terran in some finnish tournament once, surely he counts as a terran player
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On December 13 2020 04:49 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:48 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Durnuu wrote:
Does roach/corruptor count as mech? They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran. Hellbat-medivac all-in: mech
But is it mech if PartinG dies to a hellion drop and leaves the game before Maru definitively shows whether it was mech or bio
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Pandemona
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On December 13 2020 04:48 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:46 Pandemona wrote:
That shouldn't happen right? Corrupters should win or am i missing something lol the counter relationship between mutas and corruptors isn't AS hard as some other units, and Dark had a loooot more mutas
Ok thank thanks
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On December 13 2020 04:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 04:48 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Durnuu wrote:
Does roach/corruptor count as mech? They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran. Hellbat-medivac all-in: mech But is it mech if PartinG dies to a hellion drop and leaves the game before Maru definitively shows whether it was mech or bio
Top 10 questions TL won't answer
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On December 13 2020 04:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 04:48 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Durnuu wrote:
Does roach/corruptor count as mech? They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran. Hellbat-medivac all-in: mech But is it mech if PartinG dies to a hellion drop and leaves the game before Maru definitively shows whether it was mech or bio
yes
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On December 13 2020 04:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 13 2020 04:48 Elentos wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Durnuu wrote:
Does roach/corruptor count as mech? They're bio units. Stalker/colossus is mech. But Harstem did specify it had to be a Terran. Hellbat-medivac all-in: mech But is it mech if PartinG dies to a hellion drop and leaves the game before Maru definitively shows whether it was mech or bio
mech
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wish ro32 also had LB.. we were robbed of couple of good matchups for sure..
oh well..
anyways, go go Elazer !
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On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup. when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky
More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh?
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On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup. when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh?
if you like 2018 so much why don't you marry it
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On December 13 2020 04:59 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup. when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh? if you like 2018 so much why don't you marry it
How about the TL attack on mech?
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On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup. when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh?
weird when Serral loses continously to Reynor you just say Reynor stylistically matches up well vs him and not that Reynor is superior
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Serral's fungal on the banelings was clutch.
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Why did he focus the extractor?
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Serral with a burrowed infestor hit squad. Channeling Destiny, I guess.
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On December 13 2020 04:59 Waxangel wrote if you like 2018 so much why don't you marry it
Actually, 2020 sucks, can I go back to 2018 please?
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Dark should make a nydus and use it in Serral's main as soon as Serral moves out
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On December 13 2020 05:28 Durnuu wrote:
Dark should make a nydus and use it in Serral's main as soon as Serral moves out
Isn't that more the Lurker player's move?
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On December 13 2020 05:29 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:28 Durnuu wrote:
Dark should make a nydus and use it in Serral's main as soon as Serral moves out Isn't that more the Lurker player's move?
Serral can do it but getting vision in Dark's base is gonna be much harder for him.
But more importantly, Serral has the straight up better army, while Dark needs to avoid Serral's army, hence my suggestion
E: until the ultras, that was
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Is Dark seriously going to throw game five?
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Not knowing about the bottom right base when you had map control the entire game is pretty laughable, i have to say
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On December 13 2020 05:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is Dark seriously going to throw game five?
ionno if he was really ahead enough to call it a throw? Muta is pretty hard to transition out of, so muta games generally look like this when they drag out.
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Dark keeps mis-microing his ultralisks and it's super cringeworthy.
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this is like Reynor vs Serral from last years Blizzcon
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Dark trying his best to throw another game.
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On December 13 2020 05:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Dark keeps mis-microing his ultralisks and it's super cringeworthy.
you can micro Ultras?
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On December 13 2020 05:34 Charoisaur wrote:
this is like Reynor vs Serral from last years Blizzcon
Yeah. No range upgrades means you have to go ultra after muta, and ultras are what they are.
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The classic ultras into lose, I guess
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On December 13 2020 05:34 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Dark keeps mis-microing his ultralisks and it's super cringeworthy. you can micro Ultras?
You don't need to have ten boxing each other out on the same chokepoint XD
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Damn, Dark playing like me with those ultras on the ramp into lurkers
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These are like Brood War Lurkers on ramps
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On December 13 2020 05:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:34 Charoisaur wrote:
this is like Reynor vs Serral from last years Blizzcon Yeah. No range upgrades means you have to go ultra after muta, and ultras are what they are.
there must be better options than this though......
This is just sad to watch
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Damn disappointing end after going up 2-0 :/
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Looks like Dark is really going to throw game five, despite a huge bank, better army, and more bases. Really, really terrible attacks from Dark, suiciding over and over again.
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On December 13 2020 05:34 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Dark keeps mis-microing his ultralisks and it's super cringeworthy. you can micro Ultras?
He's miscroing (or not bothering to micro) lings as well. Could have rest serral entire tech with those lings in the main if he had just shift clicked the buildings.
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damn i really don't know what dark was thinking the past 10 minutes.
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It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.
It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?
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"here have 10 Ultras"
-I'm still in the game?
"here have 10 more Ultras"
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he coudl ahve tech in so many things..... but he chose to kepp going ultra...
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This game was a bit dumb.
Like, i get that similar game happened last year at Blizzcon, but this was dumber.
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On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.
It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?
The range and fast burrow upgrades are pretty dumb, for sure.
But that's not really why Dark lost this game, however
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I don't think Dark was ever overwhelmingly ahead, I think at best he was slightly ahead or in an even position. Still took some shambolic engagements later on though.
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Man, what strategic victory by Serral. Surprised that Dark committed so hard to the inferior unit composition - late-game ling ultra is basically hard countered by lurkers w/ support
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A game where Dark kept thinking "it's too late to transition into anything else" until it was actually true 
You have to keep in mind that from Dark's POV it can be hard to accurately judge your own position, and know whether or not you can realistically commit to belatedly matching the Lurker comp.
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Hopefully Maru vs. Parting will be less facepalm-y
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Ultras are a funny unit. They feel unstoppable when in the open and like the worst unit in the game when attacking into buildings.
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On December 13 2020 05:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Hopefully Maru vs. Parting will be less facepalm-y
Maru's nursing an injury and Parting has a grudge.
I'm not expecting a great series.
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On December 13 2020 05:37 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 13 2020 05:34 Charoisaur wrote:
this is like Reynor vs Serral from last years Blizzcon Yeah. No range upgrades means you have to go ultra after muta, and ultras are what they are. there must be better options than this though...... This is just sad to watch
It's either this, brood lords, or lurker/hydra while down three upgrades--pick your poison.
On December 13 2020 05:41 royalroadweed wrote:
Ultras are a funny unit. They feel unstoppable when in the open and like the worst unit in the game when attacking into buildings.
Do they feel unstoppable in the open? They look mildly playable in the open, but I wouldn't give them more credit than that.
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On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.
It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?
Not to mention fast siege, invisible when siege, does not deal friendly splash dmg. Poorly design unit when compared to other siege unit.
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On December 13 2020 05:43 rayl991 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.
It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ? Not to mention fast siege, invisible when siege, does not deal friendly splash dmg. Poorly design unit when compared to other similar siege units.
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Maru vs Parting? I thought Maru was gonna forfeit this because of his injury
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On December 13 2020 05:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's so dumb how fast Lurkers are. They're literally one of the fastest Zerg units when on Creep. Doesn't really make a lot of sense for a Siege Unit that can deal as much splash as it does.
It's like why would you make anything else late game in ZvZ?
Not to mention fast siege, invisible when siege, does not deal friendly splash dmg. Poorly design unit when compared to other similar siege units.
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On December 13 2020 05:44 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru vs Parting? I thought Maru was gonna forfeit this because of his injury
Team NV followed up and said Maru would play out TSL6 
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On December 13 2020 05:04 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup. when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh? weird when Serral loses continously to Reynor you just say Reynor stylistically matches up well vs him and not that Reynor is superior
That's just a lie. I have never said that Reynor's playstyle matches well against Serral's and also never said that he lives in Serral's mind or something else.
By the way, feels like Serral is still better than Dark in ZvZ when it comes to standard comps and lategame management.
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On December 13 2020 05:04 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 04:56 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2020 04:47 Xain0n wrote:On December 13 2020 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Wow Dark is ahead in a series vs Serral. I should have tuned in earlier. I did always believe that their match history wasn't actually representative of the average skill difference between them but still thought Serral would win today. It was highly representative of how Serral was so much ahead of Dark at least in ZvZ. In 2020, ZvZ has been Serral's worst matchup. when Serral beats someone -> proof he's superior in the matchup when Serral loses to someone -> he was sick, wasn't in peak form or got unlucky More like when Serral wins every ZvZ in nine months and beats Dark three times in bo5, he's superior. Weird, uh? weird when Serral loses continously to Reynor you just say Reynor stylistically matches up well vs him and not that Reynor is superior
Well, Reynor had a tricky style which caught off guard Serral a few time but in 18/19 he sure wasn't as good as him overall.
That said, I was quite annoyed at the people who said during the summer that serral was losing to reynor because of his style while it was pretty evident that the spaghetti boy has massively improved.
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Is there any kind of rule where you forfeit your prize money if you don't show up? If there is, i can see Maru just getting up to lose quickly and not damage his shoulders too much.
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Foreigners doing pretty well against Koreans in this round.
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On December 13 2020 05:45 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:44 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru vs Parting? I thought Maru was gonna forfeit this because of his injury Team NV followed up and said Maru would play out TSL6
in one hand I wanna see maru play.... but on the other I dont want him to break himself neither
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Serral shitting his pants at the thought of playing Maru
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On December 13 2020 05:50 Sif_ wrote:
Is there any kind of rule where you forfeit your prize money if you don't show up? If there is, i can see Maru just getting up to lose quickly and not damage his shoulders too much.
I mean if you just forfeit because of injury you will still be payed out, its not like Maru hasnt got a choice
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On December 13 2020 05:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Foreigners doing pretty well against Koreans in this round.
I just hope the dramatic declarations of some fanboys won't become a meme...
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Clem gets Byun and Reynor has no Serral/Clem/koreans until the quarterfinals. Reynor might feel lucky
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On December 13 2020 05:52 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 05:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Foreigners doing pretty well against Koreans in this round. I just hope the dramatic declarations of some fanboys won't become a meme...
Why would this tournament be any different than all the other tournaments
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Has the korean scene hit rock bottom?
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On December 13 2020 05:58 Durnuu wrote:
Has the korean scene hit rock bottom?
They're just setting up for tomorrow. The tournament is secondary, TL contests are what matters.
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On December 13 2020 05:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Serral shitting his pants at the thought of playing Maru
Your mind reading powers must be truly impressive.
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I love how every thread turns into Charoisaur vs Xain0n
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On December 13 2020 05:58 Durnuu wrote:
Has the korean scene hit rock bottom?
The Korean scene is burrowing harder than Serral's lurkers /s
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Nice multi-pronged attack from Maru, giving him a solid lead.
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Parting was relentless on that attack, damn
A lot of protoss would've gone for broke and probably lost after a few tries.
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It's amazing how much better Parting is at blink stalker aggression than literally every other protoss.
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On December 13 2020 06:19 irvnasty wrote:
It's amazing how much better Parting is at blink stalker aggression than literally every other protoss.
yeah, pretty sure no other Protoss would have won that
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Hey, I've finally caught up!
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I really do love this kind of Blink Stalker all-in, despite its directness. For some reason it feels a lot like Mutalisk harass in Brood War ZvT.
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On December 13 2020 06:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I really do love this kind of Blink Stalker all-in, despite its directness. For some reason it feels a lot like Mutalisk harass in Brood War ZvT.
Extremely frustrating to play against as Terran, but its awesome to watch hahah
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I have a feeling that wasn't a good fight for PartinG.
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On December 13 2020 06:30 Durnuu wrote:
I have a feeling that wasn't a good fight for PartinG.
you sure?
he killed some units I think
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Definition of headbutting right there, but I think he should probably stick with the aggression. It can't be comfortable for Maru.
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LOL that secret proxy nexus. I wish something successful could have come from that.
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Nice time to improv parting
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On December 13 2020 06:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
PartinG pulling a 'sOs'
I'm pretty sure when this happened, Tastosis said we would never see it again.
Parting should've listened to them .
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Elazer: I'm going to make the worst proxy strat in this tournament.
Parting: Hold my nexus.
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On December 13 2020 06:37 Fanatic-Templar wrote:I'm pretty sure when this happened, Tastosis said we would never see it again. Parting should've listened to them .
agreed
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No way.
EDIT: No way is right. There's too many Tanks, I was just panicky .
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nice disable on the prism
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surprisingly bad micro by parting
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Parting is still entertaining to watch
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When is Day 4 by the way? I can't find it on the calendar.
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On December 13 2020 06:46 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
When is Day 4 by the way? I can't find it on the calendar.
Tomorrow are the quarterfinals and the first round of the lower bracket.
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On December 13 2020 06:47 irvnasty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 06:46 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
When is Day 4 by the way? I can't find it on the calendar. Tomorrow are the quarterfinals and the first round of the lower bracket.
Thank you. Same time?
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On December 13 2020 05:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Serral shitting his pants at the thought of playing Maru
you seem to have enough of subtlety at this point and just project your honest opinion finally. Still selling it as bait, so not really improving there, are you?
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Mr. Bitter + Rotti = old school good times
ZG and Rotti so far have been excellent too!
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Bitterdam :O
Let's get Jim in here too for old time's sake :0
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On December 13 2020 06:48 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 06:47 irvnasty wrote:On December 13 2020 06:46 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
When is Day 4 by the way? I can't find it on the calendar. Tomorrow are the quarterfinals and the first round of the lower bracket. Thank you. Same time?
Yes, same time as today.
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Woah, this is basically like that Rogue vs Maru game.
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Wow, bitterdam!! Brings back good memories
Mr bitter looks so different
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Good to see MrBitter--what does Ohana mean again?
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mrbitter needs a better mic
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On December 13 2020 07:03 Sif_ wrote:Wow, bitterdam!! Brings back good memories Mr bitter looks so different
Yea, quite the flashback
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If Reynor leaves right now was it mech?
E: Okay it's mech anyway.
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Heromarine playing mech v zerg?! Probably the most surprising thing of today
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On December 13 2020 07:24 Elentos wrote:
If Reynor leaves right now was it mech?
E: Okay it's mech anyway.
Which piece of delightful TeamLiquid™ apparel will you be acquiring?
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I really thought I was safe for #true in the no-mech prediction when it came to this match up. ):
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On December 13 2020 07:26 ilax30 wrote:
Heromarine playing mech v zerg?! Probably the most surprising thing of today
He's staying at Rotterdam's place so he was probably bribed to ruin Harstem's predictions.
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On December 13 2020 07:26 ilax30 wrote:
Heromarine playing mech v zerg?! Probably the most surprising thing of today
It's all to make Harstem look foolish.
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On December 13 2020 01:10 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
gabe playing from rottis house probably a bit hungover btw, if you want some excuses ready
x)
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I hadn't realised how hilarious that supply was until they reminded me of the Queens .
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I wasn't expecting Reynor to build 110 workers again after how that game he played against Maru went.
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Is Reynor trolling us with 110 workers?
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2.3k gas income per minute jesus
I want to see gabe pulling a TY now and go to 100 scvs :D
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Well, how do i put it.
Somehow losing to mass mutas with mine-cyclone-thors is perfect description of this series.
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I can't help but think that 110 drones style is definetly not optimal, or at least way too risky and that the point of doing it is just flexing on your opponent :p
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On December 13 2020 07:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 07:26 ilax30 wrote:
Heromarine playing mech v zerg?! Probably the most surprising thing of today It's all to make Harstem look foolish.
I guess I have the 3 predictions wrong, to bad, I did well last week.
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Bit of a shame they put Rotti and Bitter on this series, was quite obvious this was gonna be rather onesided. Pretty sure they had many more stories to tell, oh well. Fun stuff
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Reminds me of that game Reynor played against supernova in the caster teamleague.
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On December 13 2020 07:38 stilt wrote:
I can't help but think that 110 drones style is definetly not optimal, or at least way to risky and that the point of doing it is just flexing on your opponent :p
It certainly doesn't seem optimal, but I doubt Reynor's doing it just to flex.
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On December 13 2020 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 07:38 stilt wrote:
I can't help but think that 110 drones style is definetly not optimal, or at least way to risky and that the point of doing it is just flexing on your opponent :p It certainly doesn't seem optimal, but I doubt Reynor's doing it just to flex.
You're probably 99% right.
Maybe he got lost in the flow of the game.
Or he is just more confortable with it.
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Hyped for Showtime vs Longplayername
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damn bitterdam for such a short series. bit of a shame
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Zest rocking Rag pretty hard, 2-0 so far.
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They were goofing a lot about Ragna chances but he was not that far behind despite donating 18 mutas for nothing
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I guess Ragnarok > Trap with cheese was the honorary Has series of TSL6
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Cure is so much better online than in the studio
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Cure's push here is really putting the screws to ByuN.
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Annnnnnd overextension into TvT base race!
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TvT games between the top 5~6 players are so tight
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well that was cool 
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Happy Rotti makes me happy
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if this works cure.. ultimate clown show haha
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I'm ready to admit that TvT is the best mirror now.
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aahahaahahahahahah what a series
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Karma's a bitch, I CAN'T this series LOL
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next game has to be marauder proxy vs marauder proxy plz
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The greatest series of all time hahahaha
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On December 13 2020 09:24 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
next game has to be marauder proxy vs marauder proxy plz
I want a Planetary Fortress rush. Show Parting's Proxy Nexus how it's done.
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the plus side of #ForeverTerranPatch is that we get to see a lot of good TvT 
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On December 13 2020 09:26 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 09:24 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
next game has to be marauder proxy vs marauder proxy plz I want a Planetary Fortress rush. Show Parting's Proxy Nexus how it's done.
Couple of years ago I actually lost to a proxy Fortress...
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Why isn’t this tournament getting more livestream viewership? Is it the way it is tagged on Twitch? Time of year? It appears to stay around 8K viewers most of the time but is a Premier event with top players at the same time of day as a DreamHack.
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On December 13 2020 11:01 Zzoram wrote:
Why isn’t this tournament getting more livestream viewership? Is it the way it is tagged on Twitch? Time of year? It appears to stay around 8K viewers most of the time but is a Premier event with top players at the same time of day as a DreamHack.
I tried watching during Week 1. I did voice the same concern last week, and people were saying "Oh, it's just RO32, peak viewership is Clem v Byun". Not sure about viewers, but the thread never picked up (in fact, even died down in the later games when the timing should be middle of the night/day for EU and NA). Also, there's just too much lag time between matches (to be fair, this may be partly because of the player's fault).
The timing is terrible for Asia-Pacific. I don't get why they can't start 2-3 hours earlier (which is early morning for NA). So I gave it a miss on Saturday. Not sure whether I will be tuning in on Sunday. I already had my SC2 fix during the ST. Also, kinda bugs me that I'm staying up late and EU/NA fans don't give a shit even though the event is set for their prime time.
I really want to support TL's own tourney, but the terrible timing and low hype just puts me off. Sorry, guys. It's December, and there's a lot of work and chores to rush before Christmas and New Year...
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On December 13 2020 11:40 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 11:01 Zzoram wrote:
Why isn’t this tournament getting more livestream viewership? Is it the way it is tagged on Twitch? Time of year? It appears to stay around 8K viewers most of the time but is a Premier event with top players at the same time of day as a DreamHack. I tried watching during Week 1. I did voice the same concern last week, and people were saying "Oh, it's just RO32, peak viewership is Clem v Byun". Not sure about viewers, but the thread never picked up (in fact, even died down in the later games when the timing should be middle of the night/day for EU and NA). Also, there's just too much lag time between matches (to be fair, this may be partly because of the player's fault). The timing is terrible for Asia-Pacific. I don't get why they can't start 2-3 hours earlier (which is early morning for NA). So I gave it a miss on Saturday. Not sure whether I will be tuning in on Sunday. I already had my SC2 fix during the ST. Also, kinda bugs me that I'm staying up late and EU/NA fans don't give a shit even though the event is set for their prime time. I really want to support TL's own tourney, but the terrible timing and low hype just puts me off. Sorry, guys. It's December, and there's a lot of work and chores to rush before Christmas and New Year...
I think it was a big mistake not making the ro32 double elimination. I think it killed alot of hype this TSL had going for it.
 Neeb
Trap
 uThermal
Harstem
 DRG
Clem
Bly
SKillous
SpeCial
MaxPax
Cham
souL
Dream
Armani
Lambo
RagnaroK
Thats alot of popular players/up-and-commers who are OUT of this tournament. It would have been better if it was double elimination from the ro32, or just make it single elimination from the beginning (would also make Showtime, Serral and Elazer victories more meaningful). I know it was because of the 3 week saturday/sunday schedule. Still think its a big shame.
(It also don´t help that around 2000+ viewers disappear when Serral is done playing his games (no matter if he wins or not). It seems alot of the big foreigner fans only watches certain matches, or is just me?)
At least alot of the best GSL players are still in it to make it exciting. If the foreigners keep performing i think viewership will go up.
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On December 13 2020 17:41 SmoKim wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 11:40 RKC wrote:On December 13 2020 11:01 Zzoram wrote:
Why isn’t this tournament getting more livestream viewership? Is it the way it is tagged on Twitch? Time of year? It appears to stay around 8K viewers most of the time but is a Premier event with top players at the same time of day as a DreamHack. I tried watching during Week 1. I did voice the same concern last week, and people were saying "Oh, it's just RO32, peak viewership is Clem v Byun". Not sure about viewers, but the thread never picked up (in fact, even died down in the later games when the timing should be middle of the night/day for EU and NA). Also, there's just too much lag time between matches (to be fair, this may be partly because of the player's fault). The timing is terrible for Asia-Pacific. I don't get why they can't start 2-3 hours earlier (which is early morning for NA). So I gave it a miss on Saturday. Not sure whether I will be tuning in on Sunday. I already had my SC2 fix during the ST. Also, kinda bugs me that I'm staying up late and EU/NA fans don't give a shit even though the event is set for their prime time. I really want to support TL's own tourney, but the terrible timing and low hype just puts me off. Sorry, guys. It's December, and there's a lot of work and chores to rush before Christmas and New Year... I think it was a big mistake not making the ro32 double elimination. I think it killed alot of hype this TSL had going for it. NeebTrapuThermalHarstemDRGClemBlySKillousSpeCialMaxPax ChamsouLDreamArmaniLamboRagnaroKThats alot of popular players/up-and-commers who are OUT of this tournament. It would have been better if it was double elimination from the ro32, or just make it single elimination from the beginning (would also make Showtime, Serral and Elazer victories more meaningful). I know it was because of the 3 week saturday/sunday schedule. Still think its a big shame. (It also don´t help that around 2000+ viewers disappear when Serral is done playing his games (no matter if he wins or not). It seems alot of the big foreigner fans only watches certain matches, or is just me?) At least alot of the best GSL players are still in it to make it exciting. If the foreigners keep performing i think viewership will go up.
Speaking as a EU fan, the timezones are pretty bad for a regular working/family person. A lot of the matches were played close to or after midnight. When you have to get up around 6-7am, can't really stay up that late.
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On December 13 2020 18:13 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2020 17:41 SmoKim wrote:On December 13 2020 11:40 RKC wrote:On December 13 2020 11:01 Zzoram wrote:
Why isn’t this tournament getting more livestream viewership? Is it the way it is tagged on Twitch? Time of year? It appears to stay around 8K viewers most of the time but is a Premier event with top players at the same time of day as a DreamHack. I tried watching during Week 1. I did voice the same concern last week, and people were saying "Oh, it's just RO32, peak viewership is Clem v Byun". Not sure about viewers, but the thread never picked up (in fact, even died down in the later games when the timing should be middle of the night/day for EU and NA). Also, there's just too much lag time between matches (to be fair, this may be partly because of the player's fault). The timing is terrible for Asia-Pacific. I don't get why they can't start 2-3 hours earlier (which is early morning for NA). So I gave it a miss on Saturday. Not sure whether I will be tuning in on Sunday. I already had my SC2 fix during the ST. Also, kinda bugs me that I'm staying up late and EU/NA fans don't give a shit even though the event is set for their prime time. I really want to support TL's own tourney, but the terrible timing and low hype just puts me off. Sorry, guys. It's December, and there's a lot of work and chores to rush before Christmas and New Year... I think it was a big mistake not making the ro32 double elimination. I think it killed alot of hype this TSL had going for it. NeebTrapuThermalHarstemDRGClemBlySKillousSpeCialMaxPax ChamsouLDreamArmaniLamboRagnaroKThats alot of popular players/up-and-commers who are OUT of this tournament. It would have been better if it was double elimination from the ro32, or just make it single elimination from the beginning (would also make Showtime, Serral and Elazer victories more meaningful). I know it was because of the 3 week saturday/sunday schedule. Still think its a big shame. (It also don´t help that around 2000+ viewers disappear when Serral is done playing his games (no matter if he wins or not). It seems alot of the big foreigner fans only watches certain matches, or is just me?) At least alot of the best GSL players are still in it to make it exciting. If the foreigners keep performing i think viewership will go up. Speaking as a EU fan, the timezones are pretty bad for a regular working/family person. A lot of the matches were played close to or after midnight. When you have to get up around 6-7am, can't really stay up that late.
Yes, so the Sunday late timing doesn't even make sense (only accomadates NA). Maybe should've scheduled on Friday and Saturday instead?
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Weird timing indeed, i wasn't even aware this tournament did start.
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