
Super Tournament 2
Streams & Casters
Format
- Single-elimination bracket:
- Round of 16 are Bo5.
- Quarterfinals are Bo5.
- Semifinals are Bo5.
- Finals are Bo7.
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Pandemona
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tskarzyn
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Sif_
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Stats > Rogue and we'll finally have a Protoss champion | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 17:01 JustPassingBy wrote: 2 protoss in the ro4. Will it finally happen??? No | ||
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Sif_
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toed the line between suiciding and actually killing TY for 2minutes | ||
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On December 12 2020 17:05 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 17:01 JustPassingBy wrote: 2 protoss in the ro4. Will it finally happen??? No 1 protoss in the finals, 1 protoss in the other semifinal. Will it finally happen??? | ||
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sudete
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Elentos
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Sif_
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(im sure this post isnt gonna age badly at all lol) | ||
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SmoKim
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On December 12 2020 17:58 Morbidius wrote: Rogue vs fan made narrative of a Protoss winning a tournament at the last minute. This + On December 12 2020 17:55 irvnasty wrote: Here comes the part where Rogue wins seven games faster than protoss does. Is probably what is gonna happen xD | ||
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irvnasty
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EDIT: Yup, it's an all-in and I hate it. The longer the game goes, the better for Rogue IMO, provided we're not talking skytoss endgame territory. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:04 Elentos wrote: So is he going 2 stargate void ray into ground units to make Rogue think it's 3 stargate void ray? I think Rogue just read it very wrongly, his push is even worse vs 3 stargates, no? | ||
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irvnasty
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On December 12 2020 18:04 Elentos wrote: So is he going 2 stargate void ray into ground units to make Rogue think it's 3 stargate void ray? I'm not sure that Stats was actually trying to confuse Rogue or that Rogue was confused. I think 2 SG voids basically is just as good as 3 SG voids if you're able to defend a roach attack and Stats was. | ||
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Rubicant1
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Artosis: NICE. Hahah. | ||
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Argonauta
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On December 12 2020 18:33 Elentos wrote: After this game, Rogue goes on the bnet forum to complain about Protoss even though he never made an infestor and lost his last viper 10 minutes ago. Rogue just has no gas | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 18:33 Elentos wrote: After this game, Rogue goes on the bnet forum to complain about Protoss even though he never made an infestor and lost his last viper 10 minutes ago. Is Rogue Railgan? | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:35 M2 wrote: Why is he not A-moving into Rogue? He just wants to make Rogue feel bad. | ||
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irvnasty
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Morbidius
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On December 12 2020 18:35 M2 wrote: Why is he not A-moving into Rogue? Because he assumed Rogue was playing a decent macro game behind that. | ||
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phodacbiet
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On December 12 2020 18:35 M2 wrote: Why is he not A-moving into Rogue? He was so ahead that there was no reason to. Rogue would have to move out on one base while stats could still take the rest of the map. | ||
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Argonauta
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On December 12 2020 18:36 Morbidius wrote: Because he assumed Rogue was playing a decent macro game behind that. He just play an amazing one | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:40 JustPassingBy wrote: Stats channeling his inner Tassadar and warping in the golden armada. Tassadar wishes he could have been as cool as Artanis and have a Golden Armada. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:43 darklycid wrote: Rogues scouting this series is pretty bad, but for how late he saw this coming it went pretty decent. It helped Stats was at 109/109 for the entire push | ||
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Argonauta
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On December 12 2020 18:52 Morbidius wrote: Rogue played the worst ZvP i have seen this year. Then you dont watch barely any PvZ | ||
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SmoKim
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cheering for Trap, but whoever wins, Protoss wins. Win-win | ||
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parksonsc
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darklycid
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On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. | ||
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swarminfestor
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On December 12 2020 18:53 FuRong wrote: Rogue silently contemplating how that could have gone differently if they just made the semis bo7. It made a sense then. Congrats Stats, really good late game. | ||
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StasisField
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On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. Isn't asus rog a major? | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:54 StasisField wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. Isn't asus rog a major? Last year LP counted it as Premier, this year as Major. | ||
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darklycid
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On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. I just know of the zerg code s drought in hots amplified by soO being soO ![]() | ||
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StasisField
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On December 12 2020 18:55 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 StasisField wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. Isn't asus rog a major? Last year LP counted it as Premier, this year as Major. Ah ty | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 18:55 darklycid wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. I just know of the zerg code s drought in hots amplified by soO being soO ![]() Yeah but they still won side tournaments like IEM or Dreamhacks | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 18:55 darklycid wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. I just know of the zerg code s drought in hots amplified by soO being soO ![]() I always figured GSL should have an exchange rate where if someone gets 5 silvers he can trade it in for a gold. | ||
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darklycid
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On December 12 2020 18:57 Sif_ wrote: I have no idea who is favored here. Hows their PvP, anyone know? Both are pretty insane in PvP I'd say recently i think Trap won more often but will be close. | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 19:00 JustPassingBy wrote: Time for some disco ball ping pong! Jesus fuck I hope not | ||
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Elentos
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 19:08 Elentos wrote: Battle of two people who have been runner-up an unfortunate amount of times Should've picked another race | ||
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Argonauta
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On December 12 2020 19:38 Durnuu wrote: Stats setting up the LLLWWWW at least the LLLWL please | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? stats won asus rog and classic won super tournament last year | ||
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sudete
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On December 12 2020 19:42 Sif_ wrote: Trap is out microing stats at every single opportunity, and on top of that he's making great decisions Yeah, Stats gets clobbered over the head every time it looks like he might take a tiny advantage | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 19:44 sudete wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 19:42 Sif_ wrote: Trap is out microing stats at every single opportunity, and on top of that he's making great decisions Yeah, Stats gets clobbered over the head every time it looks like he might take a tiny advantage It's kind of confirming how i always thought of stats and trap extremely similar players, except that stats is better at lategame while trap is a monster at midgame engagements. | ||
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Sif_
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yea trap is microing 10x better than stats | ||
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On December 12 2020 20:00 IndyO wrote: Traps face was soooo frustrated. Please don't curse him with a reverse sweep. i dont think i've ever seen trap tilt | ||
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Harris1st
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![]() GG Protoss | ||
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BerserkSword
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looks like torture to play | ||
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sneakyfox
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also: Statsuuuuu you god | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 20:09 BerserkSword wrote: idk how protoss mains deal with pvp looks like torture to play Every race hates to play their mirror match-up | ||
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sneakyfox
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On December 12 2020 20:09 umelbumel wrote: let's go staaats! Would it be the biggest throw ever? Do you mean comeback? G5 was Stats outplaying Trap. | ||
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StasisField
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Trap going up 3-0 then losing 2 in a row: Oh god | ||
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Fango
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On December 12 2020 20:11 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:09 umelbumel wrote: let's go staaats! Would it be the biggest throw ever? Do you mean comeback? G5 was Stats outplaying Trap. Trap getting reverse swept in a bo7 when you had game 4 in the bag would probably be the biggest throw in terms of gameplay. At least with Classic vs sOs and Soulkey vs INno, the loser wasn't about to win game 4 before stumbling. | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 20:11 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:09 BerserkSword wrote: idk how protoss mains deal with pvp looks like torture to play Every race hates to play their mirror match-up PvP looks especially annoying though | ||
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On December 12 2020 20:15 serralfan18 wrote: Hope Stats doesn't throw a 3 game lead like he did against Serral in 2018 trap was up 3 games, not stats also when did stats throw a 3 game lead vs serral? | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 20:19 BerserkSword wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:15 serralfan18 wrote: Hope Stats doesn't throw a 3 game lead like he did against Serral in 2018 trap was up 3 games, not stats also when did stats throw a 3 game lead vs serral? Never but an account that exists for nothing but trolling can't be expected to be a premier source of information. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: Trap built probes during his attack stats didn't quite the mistake. But whose mistake was it? That's the question. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. thought Neeb and Astrea won DH NA? | ||
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On December 12 2020 20:22 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. thought Neeb and Astrea won DH NA? DH NA ![]() | ||
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darklycid
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On December 12 2020 20:22 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. thought Neeb and Astrea won DH NA? Have you ever considered a career in fishing? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:19 BerserkSword wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:15 serralfan18 wrote: Hope Stats doesn't throw a 3 game lead like he did against Serral in 2018 trap was up 3 games, not stats also when did stats throw a 3 game lead vs serral? Trap did throw a 2 game lead against Serral in 2018. Serral reverse swept him in the Katowice ro8. It's doubtful that's what he meant however. | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 20:24 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:22 Charoisaur wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. thought Neeb and Astrea won DH NA? DH NA ![]() Even LRSL is more competitive than that | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 20:21 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:19 BerserkSword wrote: On December 12 2020 20:15 serralfan18 wrote: Hope Stats doesn't throw a 3 game lead like he did against Serral in 2018 trap was up 3 games, not stats also when did stats throw a 3 game lead vs serral? Never but an account that exists for nothing but trolling can't be expected to be a premier source of information. lolz i c | ||
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Charoisaur
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On December 12 2020 20:24 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:24 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 20:22 Charoisaur wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. thought Neeb and Astrea won DH NA? DH NA ![]() Even LRSL is more competitive than that he was speaking strictly about liquipedia premier events though. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 20:24 Durnuu wrote: I need Wolf's tilt-o-meter for Trap I would assume he's tilted over the edge and is tumbling down the mountain at this point and his only hope of survival is to grab on to Stats. | ||
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trap is such a beast | ||
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t5Fab
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And we remember how it went. This time: "Trap will get 4-0, he simply cannot lose!" -> 3-3 now. The 'tosis curse is still so real. | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 20:25 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:24 Durnuu wrote: On December 12 2020 20:24 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 20:22 Charoisaur wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 Elentos wrote: On December 12 2020 18:54 darklycid wrote: On December 12 2020 18:53 parksonsc wrote: so this will be the first premier Protoss winner after ... years? Stats won that one asus rog last year. 16 months ago, imagine a drought like that for one of the other races. thought Neeb and Astrea won DH NA? DH NA ![]() Even LRSL is more competitive than that he was speaking strictly about liquipedia premier events though. LRSL was a tier above Premier ![]() | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 20:27 Elentos wrote: This game 7 is either the passing of the torch (because Stats probably won't be able to play another GSL event before military) or Stats taking the torch with him forever passing the torch vs son'ing stats jr | ||
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Sif_
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On December 12 2020 20:27 t5Fab wrote: I remember the supertournament with sOs 3-0 Classic in the finals, Artosis cursed with all his might: "no one can 4-0 sOs!" And we remember how it went. This time: "Trap will get 4-0, he simply cannot lose!" -> 3-3 now. The 'tosis curse is still so real. And he said stats would win before the series started. He only reversed his curse when Trap was up 3-0 and only had to a-move half decently for the sweep. | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 20:29 Sif_ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:27 t5Fab wrote: I remember the supertournament with sOs 3-0 Classic in the finals, Artosis cursed with all his might: "no one can 4-0 sOs!" And we remember how it went. This time: "Trap will get 4-0, he simply cannot lose!" -> 3-3 now. The 'tosis curse is still so real. And he said stats would win before the series started. He only reversed his curse when Trap was up 3-0 and only had to a-move half decently for the sweep. I'm a PvP noob, but to be honest, I don't see how trap had the advantage in that attack in game 4 On one side was a bunch of stats' stalkers + shield batteries On the other side was a horde of stats' chargelots and all trap had was a globe of stalker immortal. aka the worst comp to be flanked I don't think forcefielding the zealots instead of stalkers wouldve helped. Stalker Immortal just trades so badly vs chargelots, and the super charge wouldve bought time | ||
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JustPassingBy
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On December 12 2020 20:24 JustPassingBy wrote: Stats is back on the menu bois!!! Stats of off the menu bois, see you next year!!! | ||
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Durnuu
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On December 12 2020 20:37 JustPassingBy wrote: Stats of off the menu bois, see you next year!!! More like in 2 years, military service and all that | ||
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StasisField
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GG, Trap! | ||
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IndyO
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![]() Although it's sad that stats couldn't have one more win before his military service | ||
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Argonauta
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On December 12 2020 20:41 juzzmo91 wrote: Unfortunate to see Trap win. it was amaaaazing | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 20:41 juzzmo91 wrote: Unfortunate to see Trap win. wtf lol every dog has his day | ||
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Die4Ever
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![]() but this means the top 8 stays in Code S? that seems worse, right now it's only top 4 stays in Code S | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Trap deserved this victory so much! It would also be great to see Stats win before the army calls him, he is on a kongish streak in the last two years(1-6). Welcome back, Super Protoss Tournament! | ||
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BerserkSword
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On December 12 2020 20:52 Xain0n wrote: Amazing, I'm glad for Trap! It would have been so heartbreaking to see him getting reverse swept and losing his seventh consecutive Premier final. Trap deserved this victory so much! It would also be great to see Stats win before the army calls him, he is on a kongish streak in the last two years(1-6). Welcome back, Super Protoss Tournament! do we know if stats is allowed to play IEM? | ||
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Elentos
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On December 12 2020 20:53 BerserkSword wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:52 Xain0n wrote: Amazing, I'm glad for Trap! It would have been so heartbreaking to see him getting reverse swept and losing his seventh consecutive Premier final. Trap deserved this victory so much! It would also be great to see Stats win before the army calls him, he is on a kongish streak in the last two years(1-6). Welcome back, Super Protoss Tournament! do we know if stats is allowed to play IEM? Last I heard even Stats doesn't really know when he has to go to the military yet exactly. Even though he's older than soO. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote: Better system than this year imo. I think it's a bit worse, 16 players in Code A + 8 seeded Code S players means we get 24 players instead of 28, I understand there's gonna be less players because of military service, but I would've liked a bigger Code A to act as like broadcasted qualifiers at least Code A is single elimination instead of group stages so luck of the draw can be a big factor, top 8 players in Code S can easily retain their seed which was a problem back in like 2011 | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:55 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:53 BerserkSword wrote: On December 12 2020 20:52 Xain0n wrote: Amazing, I'm glad for Trap! It would have been so heartbreaking to see him getting reverse swept and losing his seventh consecutive Premier final. Trap deserved this victory so much! It would also be great to see Stats win before the army calls him, he is on a kongish streak in the last two years(1-6). Welcome back, Super Protoss Tournament! do we know if stats is allowed to play IEM? Last I heard even Stats doesn't really know when he has to go to the military yet exactly. Even though he's older than soO. o0o thanks for the info | ||
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Zzzapper
1797 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:52 Die4Ever wrote: oh hey they're bringing back the Code A name! It was already used for the qualifiers And of course, we all knew that the ro24 was effectively Code A this year ![]() | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote: Better system than this year imo. Agreed. And 3x super tournament is great too. The ESL announcement should come any day now. I wonder how the new GSL plan integrate with that. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:41 juzzmo91 wrote: Unfortunate to see Trap win. There there, you'll get over it ![]() Hellllll yeah trap!! | ||
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Zzzapper
1797 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:56 Die4Ever wrote: I think it's a bit worse, 16 players in Code A + 8 seeded Code S players means we get 24 players instead of 28, I understand there's gonna be less players because of military service, but I would've liked a bigger Code A to act as like broadcasted qualifiers at least Code A is single elimination instead of group stages so luck of the draw can be a big factor, top 8 players in Code S can easily retain their seed which was a problem back in like 2011 Top 8 players easily staying in Code S is not going to be a problem today, they already did so this year. The only top 8 players who didn't make ro16 next season were Dear (season 1->2) and sOs if you count ST1-> season 1. In 2011 you had a bunch of top tier players who were very similar in skill, that's just not the case today, at least not to the same extent. The field is much more stratified because there just aren't as many pros | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
god damnit gratz Trap | ||
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Elentos
55561 Posts
On December 12 2020 20:56 Die4Ever wrote: I think it's a bit worse, 16 players in Code A + 8 seeded Code S players means we get 24 players instead of 28, I understand there's gonna be less players because of military service, but I would've liked a bigger Code A to act as like broadcasted qualifiers at least Code A is single elimination instead of group stages so luck of the draw can be a big factor, top 8 players in Code S can easily retain their seed which was a problem back in like 2011 There's no point in making Code A much bigger because there's just such a big disparity between pros and whoever else signs up and it'll just be stomps nobody watches. Also the fact that everyone who doesn't get top 4 in the Super Tournaments has to re-earn their spot in Code S every season is neat imo. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4958 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:06 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 20:56 Die4Ever wrote: On December 12 2020 20:53 Elentos wrote: Better system than this year imo. I think it's a bit worse, 16 players in Code A + 8 seeded Code S players means we get 24 players instead of 28, I understand there's gonna be less players because of military service, but I would've liked a bigger Code A to act as like broadcasted qualifiers at least Code A is single elimination instead of group stages so luck of the draw can be a big factor, top 8 players in Code S can easily retain their seed which was a problem back in like 2011 There's no point in making Code A much bigger because there's just such a big disparity between pros and whoever else signs up and it'll just be stomps nobody watches. Also the fact that everyone who doesn't get top 4 in the Super Tournaments has to re-earn their spot in Code S every season is neat imo. yeah I also like the concept | ||
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gammaglobulin1
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algue
France1436 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:09 gammaglobulin1 wrote: Smaller prize pool by quite a significant margin. Apparently Afreeca will be providing the prize pool themselves next year? 480k to 430k. Not nice to see, I wonder if this is Afreeca reprioritizing or if the Blizzard deal always included a gradual decrease in prize pool funding. Why do you think afreeca will be funding it themselves? | ||
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Elentos
55561 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:25 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 21:09 gammaglobulin1 wrote: Smaller prize pool by quite a significant margin. Apparently Afreeca will be providing the prize pool themselves next year? 480k to 430k. Not nice to see, I wonder if this is Afreeca reprioritizing or if the Blizzard deal always included a gradual decrease in prize pool funding. Why do you think afreeca will be funding it themselves? To be fair 30k in total are cut through the format change because there's 4 less players in every season of GSL and that's pretty legitimate. And we have no announcement from ESL yet either, that might well cover the rest. | ||
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gammaglobulin1
3 Posts
480k to 430k. Not nice to see, I wonder if this is Afreeca reprioritizing or if the Blizzard deal always included a gradual decrease in prize pool funding. Why do you think afreeca will be funding it themselves? Was listening to the Chinese SC2 cast. The casters usually have quite a bit of behind the scenes info. They talked about Afreeca providing the prize pool next year instead of Blizzard. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16113 Posts
Congrats Trap, it's about time. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:32 gammaglobulin1 wrote: Show nested quote + 480k to 430k. Not nice to see, I wonder if this is Afreeca reprioritizing or if the Blizzard deal always included a gradual decrease in prize pool funding. Why do you think afreeca will be funding it themselves? Was listening to the Chinese SC2 cast. The casters usually have quite a bit of behind the scenes info. They talked about Afreeca providing the prize pool next year instead of Blizzard. Okay, that seems strange considering they signed a multi-year deal with blizzard. Thanks for the info though. | ||
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:32 gammaglobulin1 wrote: Show nested quote + 480k to 430k. Not nice to see, I wonder if this is Afreeca reprioritizing or if the Blizzard deal always included a gradual decrease in prize pool funding. Why do you think afreeca will be funding it themselves? Was listening to the Chinese SC2 cast. The casters usually have quite a bit of behind the scenes info. They talked about Afreeca providing the prize pool next year instead of Blizzard. Wasn't 2020/2021 supposed to be a "special year with higher funding" anyway because of the 10 year anniversary? Because I always had this in the back of my head - whether true or not - I was even surprised that the prize pool is still almost as high as before. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33505 Posts
On December 13 2020 00:47 Swisslink wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2020 21:32 gammaglobulin1 wrote: 480k to 430k. Not nice to see, I wonder if this is Afreeca reprioritizing or if the Blizzard deal always included a gradual decrease in prize pool funding. Why do you think afreeca will be funding it themselves? Was listening to the Chinese SC2 cast. The casters usually have quite a bit of behind the scenes info. They talked about Afreeca providing the prize pool next year instead of Blizzard. Wasn't 2020/2021 supposed to be a "special year with higher funding" anyway because of the 10 year anniversary? Because I always had this in the back of my head - whether true or not - I was even surprised that the prize pool is still almost as high as before. GSL gets 3000 Korean viewers average on afreeca. Blizzard is surely footing a huge part of the bill | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
Really would've liked to see Code A be 32 players And I still think top 8 staying in Code S is too much, the first round of Code S is the round of 16, which means half of the round of 16 will be seeded players | ||
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Elentos
55561 Posts
On December 13 2020 04:37 Die4Ever wrote: And I still think top 8 staying in Code S is too much, the first round of Code S is the round of 16, which means half of the round of 16 will be seeded players But that's not what's happening? That's not how Tastosis explained it anyway. What they said was top 4 from the Super Tournament and top 4 from the GSL qualifiers are straight into Code S and then also 8 people from Code A. And after a season of Code S is done there's another Super Tournament and this process repeats. Nobody is seeded from Code S to Code S. 32 player Code A would just be depressing to watch because the Korean pro scene is so shallow. Most people at that point would probably qualify for Code A without having to play a match in the bracket. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
On December 13 2020 05:06 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2020 04:37 Die4Ever wrote: And I still think top 8 staying in Code S is too much, the first round of Code S is the round of 16, which means half of the round of 16 will be seeded players But that's not what's happening? That's not how Tastosis explained it anyway. What they said was top 4 from the Super Tournament and top 4 from the GSL qualifiers are straight into Code S and then also 8 people from Code A. And after a season of Code S is done there's another Super Tournament and this process repeats. Nobody is seeded from Code S to Code S. 32 player Code A would just be depressing to watch because the Korean pro scene is so shallow. Most people at that point would probably qualify for Code A without having to play a match in the bracket. Oh ok, I guess I'll have to see what the format of the qualifiers is. Still I'd like to see players that have been playing in the qualifiers like Creator, Prince, Bomber, Coca, Curious, Taeja, ForGG... And the qualifiers aren't broadcast, so I would've liked to see them in Code A | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:45 Zambrah wrote: At long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long last, praise be unto Trap. What more can be said? Happy for Trap to get that big tournament win. Realistically been the best Protoss for about 2 years now | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3505 Posts
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