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Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 13 2020 21:09 GMT
#1041
On September 14 2020 06:02 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2020 05:52 Luolis wrote:
I don't get why lurker burrow/unburrow speed is so fast. So hrd to punish it.


I assume you're equally concerned about the widow mine upgrade?


No, terran is not the race winning the majority of tournaments, dominating so that even foreigners consistently beat Koreans. This is looking at changes that could make the game more even and more exciting to watch.
Clément 화이팅
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33617 Posts
September 13 2020 21:09 GMT
#1042
Ultras bad, not-Ultras good

What valuable lessons we have learned today
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7172 Posts
September 13 2020 21:10 GMT
#1043
On September 14 2020 06:08 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2020 06:07 Luolis wrote:
On September 14 2020 06:07 mierin wrote:
On September 14 2020 06:02 Luolis wrote:
On September 14 2020 06:02 mierin wrote:
On September 14 2020 05:52 Luolis wrote:
I don't get why lurker burrow/unburrow speed is so fast. So hrd to punish it.


I assume you're equally concerned about the widow mine upgrade?

Are widow mines a 10 range siege unit?



Do widow mines cost gas?

Yes they do. Widow mines are not a comparable unit to lurkers. I don't understand why i have to tell you this.


Great! If they're not comparable I don't understand why you asked me if widow mines were a 10 range siege unit.

You asked me "I assume you're equally concerned about the widow mine upgrade?". I wanted to tell you that they are not a comparable unit, thus your question is really stupid.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 13 2020 21:10 GMT
#1044
Nicuu Reynor! Go go 2-4!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 13 2020 21:11 GMT
#1045
Conclusion i took from last 2 games: ghosts need stim pack.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 13 2020 21:11 GMT
#1046
On September 14 2020 06:09 Waxangel wrote:
Ultras bad, not-Ultras good

What valuable lessons we have learned today

Every day, the Zerg legends of days past are more upset that people still haven't taken these lessons to heart. The tournament wins they've sacrificed by showing everyone ultras are a bad idea. How can they be disregarded so carelessly?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 13 2020 21:12 GMT
#1047
On September 14 2020 06:04 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2020 06:02 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On September 14 2020 05:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 14 2020 05:52 Luolis wrote:
I don't get why lurker burrow/unburrow speed is so fast. So hrd to punish it.


Yeah. I also don't get the 10 range attack. Doesn't make sense that they have the same range that Snipe has.


I don't see why ghosts should be able to snipe a range upgraded siege unit that has vision of it, that'd be really dumb.


Well then surely you're not happy with the Viper as it is?


Vipers *are* outranged by both forms of siege that shoot up.
Vipers also exist in part because tanks do, i.e., those things that outrange all Zerg ground by a fair margin. Ghosts are not in the same relative position to lurkers.
They also come out later, and are more expensive on gas and supply.


Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
September 13 2020 21:12 GMT
#1048
I really dislike abduct
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 13 2020 21:12 GMT
#1049
On September 14 2020 06:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Conclusion i took from last 2 games: ghosts need stim pack.

Conclusion I took: avoid Reynor getting to a 90 drone economy at any cost.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 13 2020 21:13 GMT
#1050
On September 14 2020 06:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2020 06:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Conclusion i took from last 2 games: ghosts need stim pack.

Conclusion I took: avoid Reynor getting to a 90 drone economy at any cost.

Just win sooner. I want to see the next few games be nothing but a greasy 8rax win.
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-13 21:14:47
September 13 2020 21:13 GMT
#1051
I really dislike the present snipe. Sure, it is more energy efficient than the one that countered every zerg unit (except zergling) but it feels like it does not do it's function properly. Except against ultras, but everything counters ultras anyways.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16065 Posts
September 13 2020 21:13 GMT
#1052
Feel like Clem could have killed much more drones in the beginning with the hellions. He didn't go for the big drone clump
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
September 13 2020 21:16 GMT
#1053
On September 14 2020 06:12 Penev wrote:
I really dislike abduct


Me too,in every match up.Abduct is such a boring spell that kills multiple playstyles so easily.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 13 2020 21:16 GMT
#1054
On September 14 2020 06:12 Penev wrote:
I really dislike abduct


Yeah I really don't get it either. And how the hell is this an ability for a flying caster? Which already has blinding cloud. And can regenerate energy.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 13 2020 21:16 GMT
#1055
On September 14 2020 06:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
I really dislike the present snipe. Sure, it is more energy efficient than the one that countered every zerg unit (except zergling) but it feels like it does not do it's function properly. Except against ultras, but everything counters ultras anyways.

Zerg players have gotten really good over time at making sure something does damage to the ghosts to cancel the shots most of the time. So snipe really seems underwhelming a lot of the time
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 13 2020 21:17 GMT
#1056
On September 14 2020 06:16 Kuchikikun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2020 06:12 Penev wrote:
I really dislike abduct


Me too,in every match up.Abduct is such a boring spell that kills multiple playstyles so easily.

Are you telling me vipers abducting vipers that are abducting vipers isn't the peak of Starcraft
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
September 13 2020 21:19 GMT
#1057
On September 14 2020 06:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2020 06:16 Kuchikikun wrote:
On September 14 2020 06:12 Penev wrote:
I really dislike abduct


Me too,in every match up.Abduct is such a boring spell that kills multiple playstyles so easily.

Are you telling me vipers abducting vipers that are abducting vipers isn't the peak of Starcraft


Peak SC 2 was swarm hosts broodlord versus swarm hosts broodlords in HOTS.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 13 2020 21:19 GMT
#1058
The 3rd law of motion should have the viper being slung into the direction of the abductee so that there is some cost to nullifying a unit.
Clément 화이팅
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-13 21:20:29
September 13 2020 21:19 GMT
#1059
Clem needs to do damage fast or his chances are going to sink fast.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 13 2020 21:19 GMT
#1060
Abduct is a spell designed for a Zerg with no Lurkers, no Parasitic Bomb and no Ravagers.
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