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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#81
Maru playing really passively. Relatively few drops, 3 CC openings all the time... needs to be more dynamic
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
StaNi
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#82
When Maru play aggressively - he win, when plays passive - lose. So, play fucking aggressive mr Maru!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#83
On July 22 2020 19:38 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2020 19:38 sneakyfox wrote:
So the player who got pick beats the one who picked him. Gotta love to see it


Just like last season, all of the seeded players are struggling in their groups.


Both TY and Inno beat the players they picked though.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#84
On July 22 2020 19:38 sneakyfox wrote:
So the player who got pick beats the one who picked him. Gotta love to see it


I'm actually gonna work through all GSL seasons and see how many times this has happened. You love to see it every time
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#85
On July 22 2020 19:39 dysenterymd wrote:
Maru playing really passively. Relatively few drops, 3 CC openings all the time... needs to be more dynamic


Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Maru looked like he was stuck in 2018.
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StaNi
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#86
On July 22 2020 19:39 dysenterymd wrote:
Maru playing really passively. Relatively few drops, 3 CC openings all the time... needs to be more dynamic

Exactly
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 22 2020 10:39 GMT
#87
On July 22 2020 19:39 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2020 19:38 pvsnp wrote:
On July 22 2020 19:38 sneakyfox wrote:
So the player who got pick beats the one who picked him. Gotta love to see it


Just like last season, all of the seeded players are struggling in their groups.


Both TY and Inno beat the players they picked though.


True, but neither of them advanced in first.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 22 2020 10:40 GMT
#88
On July 22 2020 19:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2020 19:38 sneakyfox wrote:
So the player who got pick beats the one who picked him. Gotta love to see it


I'm actually gonna work through all GSL seasons and see how many times this has happened. You love to see it every time


Please do! That will be fun.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3529 Posts
July 22 2020 10:40 GMT
#89
Hm while i don't like banes either and think they're insane when zerg gets rolling, maru really was just sooo passive that he had it coming for him.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4960 Posts
July 22 2020 10:41 GMT
#90
Yeah Maru was too passive, I wonder why.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 22 2020 10:43 GMT
#91
This Maru boy is over. Slumpterran. Swatted by GOAT aligulac Reynor like a fly. Confidence gone! No coming back! GSL is weak sauce. Maru who?!?

Did I nail that swag_bro impersonation?
gg no re thx
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 22 2020 10:43 GMT
#92
This aint good

I need a drink
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fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
July 22 2020 10:44 GMT
#93
Do people complaining about Maru's passivity realize that once both races are maxed out, if the terran ever commits to a push the zerg will just runby and kill bases and workers until all the terran has left are mules?

Solar took control of the game on both of his map wins, at that point Maru is forced to defend forever and can only hope to trade better.

I'm more surprised by Maru's lack of transition in game 3. No ghosts, No libs, no armory upgrades... At least game 1 he gave himself a chance with his ghost play. Widow mines don't cut it vs ultras
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
July 22 2020 10:46 GMT
#94
On July 22 2020 19:44 fastr wrote:
Do people complaining about Maru's passivity realize that once both races are maxed out, if the terran ever commits to a push the zerg will just runby and kill bases and workers until all the terran has left are mules?

Solar took control of the game on both of his map wins, at that point Maru is forced to defend forever and can only hope to trade better.

I'm more surprised by Maru's lack of transition in game 3. No ghosts, No libs, no armory upgrades... At least game 1 he gave himself a chance with his ghost play. Widow mines don't cut it vs ultras

I knew game 3 was over when he lifted his main instead of taking a fourth normally. Insanely hard to secure bases on Ever Dream though, no way you can turtle on that map.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
July 22 2020 10:47 GMT
#95
But isn't that kinda dumb in itself that Terran needs to do a really good amount of damage in this match up to stand a chance to win?
Because I really did not see any mistakes from Maru in this last game it just looked impossible to win when leaving the Zerg economy intact.
I mean you basically can't move out because of Mutas so even doing damage is borderline impossible without some early cheesy builds. And then you just get screwed while your whole army is fighting 1000 banes Mutas just wreck the economy.
And this is Maru we are talking about, best TvZ player against a solid but not that great Zerg who was always a walkover for Maru. This meta is super tough...
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
July 22 2020 10:47 GMT
#96
On July 22 2020 19:43 RKC wrote:
This Maru boy is over. Slumpterran. Swatted by GOAT aligulac Reynor like a fly. Confidence gone! No coming back! GSL is weak sauce. Maru who?!?

Did I nail that swag_bro impersonation?

even if Reynor is the current #1, Serral is the Aligulac GOAT for sure
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4960 Posts
July 22 2020 10:47 GMT
#97
On July 22 2020 19:44 fastr wrote:
Do people complaining about Maru's passivity realize that once both races are maxed out, if the terran ever commits to a push the zerg will just runby and kill bases and workers until all the terran has left are mules?

Solar took control of the game on both of his map wins, at that point Maru is forced to defend forever and can only hope to trade better.

I'm more surprised by Maru's lack of transition in game 3. No ghosts, No libs, no armory upgrades... At least game 1 he gave himself a chance with his ghost play. Widow mines don't cut it vs ultras



then if not wm whats the answer vs mass bane ?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-22 10:50:52
July 22 2020 10:50 GMT
#98
I think the type of strategy that Maru was employing in the turtle first game are better played with Mech based compositions instead of such a large number of MMM units
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3529 Posts
July 22 2020 10:50 GMT
#99
Yikes fast 3rd vs 4gate blink.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
July 22 2020 10:52 GMT
#100
On July 22 2020 19:47 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2020 19:44 fastr wrote:
Do people complaining about Maru's passivity realize that once both races are maxed out, if the terran ever commits to a push the zerg will just runby and kill bases and workers until all the terran has left are mules?

Solar took control of the game on both of his map wins, at that point Maru is forced to defend forever and can only hope to trade better.

I'm more surprised by Maru's lack of transition in game 3. No ghosts, No libs, no armory upgrades... At least game 1 he gave himself a chance with his ghost play. Widow mines don't cut it vs ultras



then if not wm whats the answer vs mass bane ?


Mines are always good to have, especially vs heavy ling bane. But when ultra shows up you need either ghost, libs or both in my opinion. Libs are super good to defend bases. Then it becomes a trading game where zerg's attack become less efficient over time, and when they start running out of bases, you can usually push and win. It's just super hard.
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