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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 16:16 GMT
#861
On July 18 2020 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
I don't get Wardi's point. If it was a 12k resources lost difference in the past and is 14k now, that doesn't mean the trades got more even


He meant the difference is climbing more slowly

That's not what he said though
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 17 2020 16:16 GMT
#862
Mein got...
They were so many cluth moments, what a game.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 17 2020 16:17 GMT
#863
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
Nexus first from Has btw


Isn't that ultimate cheese in PvP?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
jojamon
Profile Joined December 2012
133 Posts
July 17 2020 16:17 GMT
#864
Lurkers are the most mobile siege unit. I'm surprised more Zergs don't use them in ZvT.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 17 2020 16:17 GMT
#865
On July 18 2020 01:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On July 18 2020 01:12 Musicus wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
Sloppy game on both sides imho, amazing entertainment.

That's what makes starcraft great imo.

When two evenly matched players meet, it will never look clean. They push each other to the limit and it gets sloppy. Even on the highest level.

If you have a super clean game in starcraft, it was probably not an even game and not a fun game for the audience.


Make no mistake, i don't talk about 'sloppy' as in 'it got so intense you miss event X and Y, and thus lose bases Z and W' or something. I talk about not splitting vikings against parasitic bomb and losing your entire viking set in result. Or move-burrow lurkers straight into terran army. Which is still entertaining, of course.

Crazy that would happen when both players have 200ms ping
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
July 17 2020 16:17 GMT
#866
Would 2020 be a repeat of 2019 and 2018? Seems to look like it, boring but can't blame Reynor for being good I guess.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7169 Posts
July 17 2020 16:18 GMT
#867
This game was in favor for Reynor since the point where Maru's tank push got stopped, lets not forget that.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 17 2020 16:18 GMT
#868
On July 18 2020 01:17 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:12 Musicus wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
Sloppy game on both sides imho, amazing entertainment.

That's what makes starcraft great imo.

When two evenly matched players meet, it will never look clean. They push each other to the limit and it gets sloppy. Even on the highest level.

If you have a super clean game in starcraft, it was probably not an even game and not a fun game for the audience.


Make no mistake, i don't talk about 'sloppy' as in 'it got so intense you miss event X and Y, and thus lose bases Z and W' or something. I talk about not splitting vikings against parasitic bomb and losing your entire viking set in result. Or move-burrow lurkers straight into terran army. Which is still entertaining, of course.

Crazy that would happen when both players have 200ms ping


Did i say it was?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 17 2020 16:18 GMT
#869
On July 18 2020 01:16 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
I don't get Wardi's point. If it was a 12k resources lost difference in the past and is 14k now, that doesn't mean the trades got more even


He meant the difference is climbing more slowly

That's not what he said though


Isn't it? The trade being more even doesn't mean they are actually even.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 16:18 GMT
#870
On July 18 2020 01:15 darklycid wrote:
Reynors making tvz looking pretty unfair.

Late game certainly never feels fair if you have to play it. I think Maru just took the foot too far off the gas pedal after killing all the infrastructure.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 17 2020 16:18 GMT
#871
On July 18 2020 00:55 Elentos wrote:
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On July 18 2020 00:55 DieuCure wrote:
On July 18 2020 00:53 stilt wrote:
Damn, Cure is just so freaking better than Clem


Fixed that for you.

French civil war?


Well, I was obviously cheering for Clément but Cure got a pretty delicate position and just proceeded to outplay Clem, that was beautiful.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 16:19 GMT
#872
On July 18 2020 01:18 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:16 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
I don't get Wardi's point. If it was a 12k resources lost difference in the past and is 14k now, that doesn't mean the trades got more even


He meant the difference is climbing more slowly

That's not what he said though


Isn't it? The trade being more even doesn't mean they are actually even.

If the resources lost difference grows the trades got worse
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 17 2020 16:19 GMT
#873
On July 18 2020 01:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:15 darklycid wrote:
Reynors making tvz looking pretty unfair.

Late game certainly never feels fair if you have to play it. I think Maru just took the foot too far off the gas pedal after killing all the infrastructure.


You can't decently micro bio late game at this level with 200ms.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-17 16:22:19
July 17 2020 16:21 GMT
#874
On July 18 2020 01:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:18 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
I don't get Wardi's point. If it was a 12k resources lost difference in the past and is 14k now, that doesn't mean the trades got more even


He meant the difference is climbing more slowly

That's not what he said though


Isn't it? The trade being more even doesn't mean they are actually even.

If the resources lost difference grows the trades got worse


I'm not sure if I'm just completely stupid, but if you get out of a fight with a -2000 resources, then after the next fight you're at -3000, the trade are getting better right? (-2000 first then -1000 the second time)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 16:21 GMT
#875
On July 18 2020 01:19 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:15 darklycid wrote:
Reynors making tvz looking pretty unfair.

Late game certainly never feels fair if you have to play it. I think Maru just took the foot too far off the gas pedal after killing all the infrastructure.


You can't decently micro bio late game at this level with 200ms.

Maru made a pretty solid attempt at it. But towards the end it seemed to slip for sure.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 17 2020 16:21 GMT
#876
On July 18 2020 01:18 Luolis wrote:
This game was in favor for Reynor since the point where Maru's tank push got stopped, lets not forget that.

Honestly I wouldn't expect Maru to win lategame vs viper lurker on Ever Dream, if its controlled by someone like Reynor anyway. Let alone with 200 ping.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7169 Posts
July 17 2020 16:22 GMT
#877
Rofl, Has is gonna beat Trap isnt he?
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
InvictusRage
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
July 17 2020 16:22 GMT
#878
On July 18 2020 01:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:18 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
I don't get Wardi's point. If it was a 12k resources lost difference in the past and is 14k now, that doesn't mean the trades got more even


He meant the difference is climbing more slowly

That's not what he said though


Isn't it? The trade being more even doesn't mean they are actually even.

If the resources lost difference grows the trades got worse



That's not correct. Consider a hypothetical, not necessarily tracking what actually happened (but in fact, I probably think this is roughly what happened). Split the game into two fifteen minute chunks; if after the first fifteen minutes, Reynor is -12k on resources lost, and after the second fifteen minutes, Reynor is -14k resources lost total, that means Reynor traded at -2k resources lost in the second. Surely trading at -2k is better than trading at -12k?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 16:23 GMT
#879
On July 18 2020 01:21 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 01:19 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:18 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 01:15 Elentos wrote:
I don't get Wardi's point. If it was a 12k resources lost difference in the past and is 14k now, that doesn't mean the trades got more even


He meant the difference is climbing more slowly

That's not what he said though


Isn't it? The trade being more even doesn't mean they are actually even.

If the resources lost difference grows the trades got worse


I'm not sure if I'm just completely stupid, but if you get out of a fight with a -2000 resources, then after the next fight you're at -3000, the trade are getting better right? (-2000 first then -1000 the second time)

If the resources lost is at -12000 for 3 fights and then it goes to -14000 certainly nothing got better.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7169 Posts
July 17 2020 16:24 GMT
#880
HAS HAHAHAHAHA
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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