EPTNot agree at all. Also Football casting is more regional, but sc2 casting is worldwide, specially the official English cast, so a more neutral cast will be nice. Honestly the main reasons why I cheer against Serral and Reynor is because the obnoxious casters/fans bias, its just so awful.
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
Not agree at all. Also Football casting is more regional, but sc2 casting is worldwide, specially the official English cast, so a more neutral cast will be nice. Honestly the main reasons why I cheer against Serral and Reynor is because the obnoxious casters/fans bias, its just so awful. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On July 20 2020 22:35 Acrofales wrote: And absolutely nobody was happy with the games as they happened. It was either a successful timing attack or a failed timing attack from both sides and the games were utterly forgettable, probably even if there is a die-hard ZvP fan out there, he wasn't impressed by that series. I liked the first game. That Adept pressure into Disruptor transition build looks pretty cool. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 20 2020 23:01 Argonauta wrote: Football casters are biased, therefore SC2 casters shoudl do it also...... Not agree at all. Also Football casting is more regional, but sc2 casting is worldwide, specially the official English cast, so a more neutral cast will be nice. Honestly the main reasons why I cheer against Serral and Reynor is because the obnoxious casters/fans bias, its just so awful. Ideally we should have unbiased casting, I agree. It's ironic, however, that you don't see how much this forum is(and even more, was) biased towards korean players, especially Terran ones. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On July 20 2020 23:23 Xain0n wrote: Ideally we should have unbiased casting, I agree. It's ironic, however, that you don't see how much this forum is(and even more, was) biased towards korean players, especially Terran ones. Oh i know this forum is, but I dont see why you brought that up? We agree that forum posters doesn't have the same standards than paid casters rigth? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27280 Posts
On July 20 2020 22:35 Acrofales wrote: Is it tho? Nobody in the live thread gave him a snowball's chance in hell vs. Serral, even after beating Reynor soundly. And absolutely nobody was happy with the games as they happened. It was either a successful timing attack or a failed timing attack from both sides and the games were utterly forgettable, probably even if there is a die-hard ZvP fan out there, he wasn't impressed by that series. I mean, I don't think there is much doubt that Trap is currently the best or second-best (maybe Parting is sharper) protoss in the world, but the race is currently in the dumpster and reaching the finals was already an amazing feat. Everybody was expecting Reynor to thrash him with no difficulty, but Trap had some very clever builds and Reynor didn't do his homework and got solidly schooled that he shouldn't underestimate top Koreans, even if their race is currently awful. I’m a Trap fan and still thought it’d be a crushing vs those two. On the other hand when playing with HeroMarine, it was as if he was just some random Korean Protoss not a 2x GSL finalist/arguably top PvTer around. I don’t really get it, I mean it makes the match more hyped even from the foreign bias angle if they’re going toe to toe with a monster instead of some random guy. I can’t say I’ve ever minded the Serral hype too much. Overboard a few times but first we had the foreigner trying to win Blizzcon angle, then since Serral’s just been a monster the Koreans don’t like facing. I mean especially for the guys who’ve been here since BW a genuine foreign contender on that level was over a decade in the making. It is impossible to be entirely unbiased or entirely neutral in casts, and I’m not sure an entirely neutral cast is all that fun anyway. Classic’s last hurrahs (for now) kind of benefitted from the underdog throwing his final punches over ‘hey here’s two really good players’. Same with MVP’s last deep GSL run. I do find the HeroMarine love a bit much though, it’s magnitudes above what an equivalent foreigner T like Special gets | ||
Waxangel
United States33680 Posts
On July 20 2020 23:01 Argonauta wrote: Football casters are biased, therefore SC2 casters shoudl do it also...... Not agree at all. Also Football casting is more regional, but sc2 casting is worldwide, specially the official English cast, so a more neutral cast will be nice. Honestly the main reasons why I cheer against Serral and Reynor is because the obnoxious casters/fans bias, its just so awful. honestly the bias/personal favorites doesn't bother me because no one really tries to mask it as objective fact. I'm more annoyed by instances of super-short caster memory, where the most recent thing that happened must be the most important thing that ever happened  | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27280 Posts
On July 21 2020 00:06 Waxangel wrote: honestly the bias/personal favorites doesn't bother me because no one really tries to mask it as objective fact. I'm more annoyed by instances of super-short caster memory, where the most recent thing that happened must be the most important thing that ever happened Artosis’ undying love for Clide and outright scorn for Patience being too that spring to mind as fun | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On July 21 2020 01:00 BaneRiders wrote: I find the liquipedia page for the EPT points rather confusing. It seems not to take into account the DH Summer season final, but is already handing out points for DH Fall...? ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/StandingsSeason finals are part of Global points. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
Ok, but if all global points are lumped together over the whole season, it becomes impossible to see what players scored in each and every event. In addition it clearly increases the possibility of making errors in the scoring table. I hope this can be changed so that scores are shown for each and every major event as it was in the past.  | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18419 Posts
On July 21 2020 02:03 BaneRiders wrote: Ok, but if all global points are lumped together over the whole season, it becomes impossible to see what players scored in each and every event. In addition it clearly increases the possibility of making errors in the scoring table. I hope this can be changed so that scores are shown for each and every major event as it was in the past. Sounds to me like you should become a liquipedia contributor and help them make a better system! | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On July 21 2020 02:03 BaneRiders wrote: Ok, but if all global points are lumped together over the whole season, it becomes impossible to see what players scored in each and every event. In addition it clearly increases the possibility of making errors in the scoring table. I hope this can be changed so that scores are shown for each and every major event as it was in the past. Click on the link at the top of the table that says Circuit Standings to see the individual events | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On July 21 2020 02:29 Elentos wrote: Click on the link at the top of the table that says Circuit Standings to see the individual events Genius!  | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On July 21 2020 02:05 Acrofales wrote: Sounds to me like you should become a liquipedia contributor and help them make a better system! Just because I point out the obvious doesn't make me volunteer me to fix it.  | ||
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
On July 21 2020 02:41 BaneRiders wrote: Just because I point out the obvious doesn't make me volunteer me to fix it. Sounds like you’d make a great manager! | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
Exactly. When assigning people to do stuff expect it to get done. Assigning people to do stuff and then do it yourself is lousy management. | ||
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