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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12169 Posts
May 23 2020 05:26 GMT
#161
The minimap looks so ugly ^.^

Seems a good map for toss though.
No will to live, no wish to die
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 23 2020 05:27 GMT
#162
INno can't win a normal game against Trap, 1-1.
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 23 2020 05:28 GMT
#163
On May 23 2020 14:21 Morbidius wrote:
Innovation has been so sneaky lately, is this a new version?

yeah sOs is a full time programmer now ;]
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
May 23 2020 05:28 GMT
#164
I want this map on ladder instead of Zen or whatever else "creative map" we got.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 23 2020 05:29 GMT
#165
On May 23 2020 14:26 Nebuchad wrote:
The minimap looks so ugly ^.^

Seems a good map for toss though.


If it's anything like its bigger cousin Darkness Sanctuary it should be.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France901 Posts
May 23 2020 05:30 GMT
#166
this map looks like an absolute TvP NIGHTMARE in cross position, how do you ever attack?
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-23 05:31:07
May 23 2020 05:30 GMT
#167
This map was the best place to proxy 2 rax in the middle. Going macro against protoss in a map that looks like a bigger whirlwind is not a great idea.

That being said Inno is doing rather well.
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
May 23 2020 05:30 GMT
#168
I wonder why Inno didn't veto this map. Trap's playing so greedy and he can't really punish him with standard play.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-23 05:33:06
May 23 2020 05:31 GMT
#169
On May 23 2020 14:23 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2020 14:15 RKC wrote:
On May 23 2020 14:12 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On May 23 2020 14:06 RKC wrote:
What's the difference between Colossus and Disruptor builds in PvT? Former more offensive, latter more defensive?


Going straight disruptor isn't really viable anymore except maybe a speed drop but that was always a bit of a meme. Your early game is just way too flimsy if you miss a shot and it's really easy to miss a shot if Terran isn't terrible.

Disruptor becomes much better later on because you have bigger armies and more economy = more disruptors, so terran has to split against more balls and deal with a bigger army, so it's not longer a case of just split and win. Near max fights, it's way harder to deal with disruptors.


Sorry, my choice of word in 'builds' was misleading. What I meant was which unit is better in PvT especially to counter bio balls mid or late game?


Oh, well basically Colossi are more solid at the start, and Disruptor is better later on so honestly the answer is both. You don't often go into Disruptor as your first splash apart from maybe when you've gone a heavy gateway stuff for most of the game.

IMO disruptors are simply a direct counter to ghosts. with equal control ghost-bio-lib-viking beats colossus-templar-tempest due to the very high strength of enhanced EMP and the fact that you can't really split a protoss army in a meaningful way while microing correctly. it's not like HOTS where colossus-storm is favored against everything. disruptor is the only thing that truly threatens a ghost army and makes the lategame dance balanced

disruptors are quite bad against everything except ghosts if terran micros.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 23 2020 05:32 GMT
#170
Trap's playing with a crazy low probe count
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2628 Posts
May 23 2020 05:32 GMT
#171
This map is way to big for Inno to attack and defend at the same time.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 23 2020 05:32 GMT
#172
INno literally played the most standard TvP build going, how it's ever supposed to work on a map this big is beyond me.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
May 23 2020 05:32 GMT
#173
I forgot how much weaker Terran was on a map this size. We haven't had to deal with it for a bit. Good thing too, maps this size are ridiculous.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3460 Posts
May 23 2020 05:32 GMT
#174
How come Trap just has a 40 army supply lead 0.o
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 23 2020 05:33 GMT
#175
On May 23 2020 14:30 Lexender wrote:
This map was the best place to proxy 2 rax in the middle. Going macro against protoss in a map that looks like a bigger whirlwind is not a great idea.

That being said Inno is doing rather well.


It's not bigger than Whirlwind. This is actually about as small as you can make a 4p map without the horizontal/vertical spawns being kinda dumb.

On May 23 2020 14:30 -YoricK- wrote:
I wonder why Inno didn't veto this map. Trap's playing so greedy and he can't really punish him with standard play.


For some reason all the Korean terrans think Golden Wall is terrible in TvP. Not totally sure why given the winrates don't reflect that. Also Protosses have been vetoing Obsidian in PvT (which I don't understand except if you're PartinG).
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12169 Posts
May 23 2020 05:33 GMT
#176
On May 23 2020 14:30 Lexender wrote:
This map was the best place to proxy 2 rax in the middle. Going macro against protoss in a map that looks like a bigger whirlwind is not a great idea.

That being said Inno is doing rather well.


You're more likely to be close spawn than cross map though, if you aren't cross map that's a bit of a waste
No will to live, no wish to die
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
May 23 2020 05:35 GMT
#177
Low worker count makes sense on a huge map when it's hard to rally across
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
May 23 2020 05:37 GMT
#178
Sick game by Trap
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12169 Posts
May 23 2020 05:38 GMT
#179
I mean I really want Trap to win so I'm not complaining but switching from Purity to this midseason makes little sense to me
No will to live, no wish to die
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 23 2020 05:38 GMT
#180
Trap is the new Stats.
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