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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
May 17 2020 17:45 GMT
#581
On May 18 2020 02:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:36 sneakyfox wrote:
It's really impressive how well Day9 commentates and how decent his understanding of current metas is considering how little he follows the game nowadays (or so I thought?). Did he just do a lot of research before going on today?


I watch him stream Magic Arena a lot and I think he just has a very solid fundamental understanding of the skillsets involved in playing games at a high level. Obviously he has a lot of history with SC2 so there's a lot of history to draw on, but he often mentions at least keeping up with GSL on stream. I would guess he's still interested, even if it's not his foremost passion anymore.


TBH I think anyone that plays enough games has that understanding to varying degrees. My best friend is a massive board game nut, and so I'm pretty frequently (not lately for obvious reasons) getting thrown into playing games I've never seen before, but I can pick it up pretty quick because after all, a game is a game.

I think if you have a fundamental understanding of Starcraft, Chess and Poker you can pretty much pick up any game.

Except Go. I don't think I'll ever understand that game.


Chess is just too hard for the beginners I think especially in classical time format, there is so much theory.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
May 17 2020 17:48 GMT
#582
Rotti: "It's hard to make comebacks in PvP"

Circus Ringmaster: "It wasn't"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16098 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 17:49:07
May 17 2020 17:48 GMT
#583
On May 18 2020 02:45 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 02:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:36 sneakyfox wrote:
It's really impressive how well Day9 commentates and how decent his understanding of current metas is considering how little he follows the game nowadays (or so I thought?). Did he just do a lot of research before going on today?


I watch him stream Magic Arena a lot and I think he just has a very solid fundamental understanding of the skillsets involved in playing games at a high level. Obviously he has a lot of history with SC2 so there's a lot of history to draw on, but he often mentions at least keeping up with GSL on stream. I would guess he's still interested, even if it's not his foremost passion anymore.


TBH I think anyone that plays enough games has that understanding to varying degrees. My best friend is a massive board game nut, and so I'm pretty frequently (not lately for obvious reasons) getting thrown into playing games I've never seen before, but I can pick it up pretty quick because after all, a game is a game.

I think if you have a fundamental understanding of Starcraft, Chess and Poker you can pretty much pick up any game.

Except Go. I don't think I'll ever understand that game.


Chess is just too hard for the beginners I think especially in classical time format, there is so much theory.


TBH I think Chess and Starcraft have something in common in that a lot of beginners feel overwhelmed to pick it up because of how much information is involved in becoming a master player at it.

I say the same thing to beginner Chess players as I do to beginner Starcraft players. Don't worry about the theory at the start, just learn the game. Play against other beginners. Worry about doing research once you've mastered the basics. Too many players get hung up on learning the advanced theory before they even understand the basics.

SC is of course worse at this I think because there's dexterity and muscle memory involved.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 17:48:57
May 17 2020 17:48 GMT
#584
On May 18 2020 02:48 Zzzapper wrote:
Rotti: "It's hard to make comebacks in PvP"

Circus Ringmaster: "It wasn't"

Title card:
The Gang Comes Back in PvP
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16098 Posts
May 17 2020 17:50 GMT
#585
THERE we go, there's the circus fun we wanted!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 17 2020 17:50 GMT
#586
On May 18 2020 02:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 02:45 stilt wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:36 sneakyfox wrote:
It's really impressive how well Day9 commentates and how decent his understanding of current metas is considering how little he follows the game nowadays (or so I thought?). Did he just do a lot of research before going on today?


I watch him stream Magic Arena a lot and I think he just has a very solid fundamental understanding of the skillsets involved in playing games at a high level. Obviously he has a lot of history with SC2 so there's a lot of history to draw on, but he often mentions at least keeping up with GSL on stream. I would guess he's still interested, even if it's not his foremost passion anymore.


TBH I think anyone that plays enough games has that understanding to varying degrees. My best friend is a massive board game nut, and so I'm pretty frequently (not lately for obvious reasons) getting thrown into playing games I've never seen before, but I can pick it up pretty quick because after all, a game is a game.

I think if you have a fundamental understanding of Starcraft, Chess and Poker you can pretty much pick up any game.

Except Go. I don't think I'll ever understand that game.


Chess is just too hard for the beginners I think especially in classical time format, there is so much theory.


TBH I think Chess and Starcraft have something in common in that a lot of beginners feel overwhelmed to pick it up because of how much information is involved in becoming a master player at it.


That's the point of being a beginner, isn't it ? You could say the same thing about every field or thing.
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 17 2020 17:50 GMT
#587
Has anyone said why they show national flags instead of team emblems?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 17:51 GMT
#588
TSL 5 in a nutshell:
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16098 Posts
May 17 2020 17:51 GMT
#589
On May 18 2020 02:50 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 02:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:45 stilt wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:36 sneakyfox wrote:
It's really impressive how well Day9 commentates and how decent his understanding of current metas is considering how little he follows the game nowadays (or so I thought?). Did he just do a lot of research before going on today?


I watch him stream Magic Arena a lot and I think he just has a very solid fundamental understanding of the skillsets involved in playing games at a high level. Obviously he has a lot of history with SC2 so there's a lot of history to draw on, but he often mentions at least keeping up with GSL on stream. I would guess he's still interested, even if it's not his foremost passion anymore.


TBH I think anyone that plays enough games has that understanding to varying degrees. My best friend is a massive board game nut, and so I'm pretty frequently (not lately for obvious reasons) getting thrown into playing games I've never seen before, but I can pick it up pretty quick because after all, a game is a game.

I think if you have a fundamental understanding of Starcraft, Chess and Poker you can pretty much pick up any game.

Except Go. I don't think I'll ever understand that game.


Chess is just too hard for the beginners I think especially in classical time format, there is so much theory.


TBH I think Chess and Starcraft have something in common in that a lot of beginners feel overwhelmed to pick it up because of how much information is involved in becoming a master player at it.


That's the point of being a beginner, isn't it ? You could say the same thing about every field or thing.


Chess has such a reputation though that it intimidates people, and there's not much reason to learn it other than to just play it.

Boxing as a counter-example is a great thing to learn just to get fit so there's alternative reasons to pick it up. Jobs and other things have financial incentives. etc.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
May 17 2020 17:52 GMT
#590
Immortal count reigns supreme
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 17 2020 17:52 GMT
#591
Good +2 vs +1 timing window from MaNa.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
May 17 2020 17:52 GMT
#592
Showtime failing so many things this game, after having such a good start.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16098 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 17:53:07
May 17 2020 17:52 GMT
#593
MaNa is gonna PvP his way to the final.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 17 2020 17:52 GMT
#594
Now now Showtime, make sure you win, we don't want Harstem to feel lonely as the only TL guy in the loser bracket.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
May 17 2020 17:52 GMT
#595
Fun game
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 17:54:01
May 17 2020 17:53 GMT
#596
On May 18 2020 02:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 02:50 DieuCure wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:45 stilt wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:36 sneakyfox wrote:
It's really impressive how well Day9 commentates and how decent his understanding of current metas is considering how little he follows the game nowadays (or so I thought?). Did he just do a lot of research before going on today?


I watch him stream Magic Arena a lot and I think he just has a very solid fundamental understanding of the skillsets involved in playing games at a high level. Obviously he has a lot of history with SC2 so there's a lot of history to draw on, but he often mentions at least keeping up with GSL on stream. I would guess he's still interested, even if it's not his foremost passion anymore.


TBH I think anyone that plays enough games has that understanding to varying degrees. My best friend is a massive board game nut, and so I'm pretty frequently (not lately for obvious reasons) getting thrown into playing games I've never seen before, but I can pick it up pretty quick because after all, a game is a game.

I think if you have a fundamental understanding of Starcraft, Chess and Poker you can pretty much pick up any game.

Except Go. I don't think I'll ever understand that game.


Chess is just too hard for the beginners I think especially in classical time format, there is so much theory.


TBH I think Chess and Starcraft have something in common in that a lot of beginners feel overwhelmed to pick it up because of how much information is involved in becoming a master player at it.


That's the point of being a beginner, isn't it ? You could say the same thing about every field or thing.


Chess has such a reputation though that it intimidates people, and there's not much reason to learn it other than to just play it.

Boxing as a counter-example is a great thing to learn just to get fit so there's alternative reasons to pick it up. Jobs and other things have financial incentives. etc.


Compare boxing to physical things then. There is no point in comparing boxe and chess.

This type of PvP fights are terrible to watch by the way, it looks like even pros are confused.
TL+ Member
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 17:54 GMT
#597
I went to make dinner, how was the first game?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 17 2020 17:54 GMT
#598
On May 18 2020 02:54 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I went to make dinner, how was the first game?

It was a PvP
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
May 17 2020 17:54 GMT
#599
On May 18 2020 02:52 Elentos wrote:
Now now Showtime, make sure you win, we don't want Harstem to feel lonely as the only TL guy in the loser bracket.


Der Sprechstallmeister has spoken, there shall be no reason today. Tobias is kaput
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
May 17 2020 17:55 GMT
#600
On May 18 2020 02:53 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2020 02:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:50 DieuCure wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:45 stilt wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On May 18 2020 02:36 sneakyfox wrote:
It's really impressive how well Day9 commentates and how decent his understanding of current metas is considering how little he follows the game nowadays (or so I thought?). Did he just do a lot of research before going on today?


I watch him stream Magic Arena a lot and I think he just has a very solid fundamental understanding of the skillsets involved in playing games at a high level. Obviously he has a lot of history with SC2 so there's a lot of history to draw on, but he often mentions at least keeping up with GSL on stream. I would guess he's still interested, even if it's not his foremost passion anymore.


TBH I think anyone that plays enough games has that understanding to varying degrees. My best friend is a massive board game nut, and so I'm pretty frequently (not lately for obvious reasons) getting thrown into playing games I've never seen before, but I can pick it up pretty quick because after all, a game is a game.

I think if you have a fundamental understanding of Starcraft, Chess and Poker you can pretty much pick up any game.

Except Go. I don't think I'll ever understand that game.


Chess is just too hard for the beginners I think especially in classical time format, there is so much theory.


TBH I think Chess and Starcraft have something in common in that a lot of beginners feel overwhelmed to pick it up because of how much information is involved in becoming a master player at it.


That's the point of being a beginner, isn't it ? You could say the same thing about every field or thing.


Chess has such a reputation though that it intimidates people, and there's not much reason to learn it other than to just play it.

Boxing as a counter-example is a great thing to learn just to get fit so there's alternative reasons to pick it up. Jobs and other things have financial incentives. etc.


Compare boxing to physical things then. There is no point in comparing boxe and chess.

This type of PvP fights are terrible to watch by the way, it looks like even pros are confused.

"Da Mystery of Chess Boxin'"
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