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On May 03 2020 07:45 vult wrote:
That is very confusing lol why bother giving it EU and AM labels if the same players are playing the same formatted tournaments (i understand its because of the servers)
It's not even about the servers as it turns out to everyone's surprise :/. Full explanation there: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/559262-tsl-5-statement-on-eu-qualifier-2 .
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Okay here's the question I need answered to know who to root for here because I need both to qualify
I think both are huge favourites in the last qualifier, but who is the least likely to drop out?
I kind of think it's Harstem right now
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On May 03 2020 07:43 NoS-Craig wrote:
Special and Lambo already got qualifying spots so they didn't play any more games, thus walkovers. It was a bit of a mix up because of the qualifying schedules. Because both Lambo and Special where to face of against each other in both the NA and EU qualifying finals.
No I don't think there was any mix up with qualifying schedules. The EU and AM qualifiers were played exactly as planned.
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That's one more TL player qualified.
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Pretty convincing stuff from Harstem there. One more chance for Neeb..
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Get these Europeans and their metric system and tiny cars out of our hardworking American qualifier
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Noooo Neeb.
Congrats to harstem tho
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Neeb just can't qualify lol
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On May 03 2020 08:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Get these Europeans and their metric system and tiny cars out of our hardworking American qualifier
Not enough ping
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On May 03 2020 16:05 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2020 08:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Get these Europeans and their metric system and tiny cars out of our hardworking American qualifier Not enough ping
You mean still to much sleep? 
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What's up with Neeb's PvP, he keeps getting knocked out by eu protoss in the deciding match. Ptitdrogo, Mana and now Harstem
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On May 03 2020 17:19 Geo.Rion wrote:
What's up with Neeb's PvP, he keeps getting knocked out by eu protoss in the deciding match. Ptitdrogo, Mana and now Harstem
Not to mention Rotti
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On May 03 2020 17:19 Geo.Rion wrote:
What's up with Neeb's PvP, he keeps getting knocked out by eu protoss in the deciding match. Ptitdrogo, Mana and now Harstem
We're also a week removed from Neeb getting 2-0'd by Rotti.
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So we have 1 player from either of the Americas and no Chinese players.
Hmmm. From a talent level perspective this is pretty cool, the best in Europe vs some of the best in Korea (minus Rogue, Dark and Maru) is going to make for some high level games.
But the fact that we had 3 "American" qualifiers and aside from Special all of the players to qualify from them were Europeans. does leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
I know this tournament had open qualifiers for every region so every player could play in every qualifier, but isn't the entire reason we started doing regionlocked tournaments is to avoid this very exact scenario? If this becomes the norm doesn't that mean that regionlocking needs to be reevaluated again?
Everyone freaked out when WCS America was just Korean players, this doesn't seem to be inciting that same reaction, why not?
Like I said, for just one tournament this doesn't really mean that much, but if we're going to have anti-Korean regionlocking, for other tournaments then EU conquests of the other regions should be a focus as well.
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On May 03 2020 17:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
So we have 1 player from either of the Americas and no Chinese players.
To be fair Scarlett and the top Chinese players have chosen to play KR qualifiers so they're not allowed to play NA. Which doesn't really make sense but those are the rules everyone agreed to.
But yeah with it being Nice vs the entirety of Europe, there's no real chance for Asian qualification through NA.
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On May 03 2020 17:39 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2020 17:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
So we have 1 player from either of the Americas and no Chinese players.
To be fair Scarlett and the top Chinese players have chosen to play KR qualifiers so they're not allowed to play NA. Which doesn't really make sense but those are the rules everyone agreed to.
Still, it would be nice for once to have a Korean qualifier, a Chinese qualifier, an American qualifier and a European qualifier (including those that have chosen to live in a different region, but no participation in multiple qualifiers allowed). Aussies and people of other nations can play where they want, but only select one.
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On May 03 2020 17:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
So we have 1 player from either of the Americas and no Chinese players.
Hmmm. From a talent level perspective this is pretty cool, the best in Europe vs some of the best in Korea (minus Rogue, Dark and Maru) is going to make for some high level games.
But the fact that we had 3 "American" qualifiers and aside from Special all of the players to qualify from them were Europeans. does leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
I know this tournament had open qualifiers for every region so every player could play in every qualifier, but isn't the entire reason we started doing regionlocked tournaments is to avoid this very exact scenario? If this becomes the norm doesn't that mean that regionlocking needs to be reevaluated again?
Everyone freaked out when WCS America was just Korean players, this doesn't seem to be inciting that same reaction, why not?
Like I said, for just one tournament this doesn't really mean that much, but if we're going to have anti-Korean regionlocking, for other tournaments then EU conquests of the other regions should be a focus as well.
these are the rules of 1 specific tournament, and its qualifiers arent gonna be the golden standard for future tournaments I should think.
And btw there are 7 spots from the "American" qualifiers, so far it's 1 NA, 4 EU, with 2 more undecided.
I dont think i can name 7 NA players with realistic chance to take a map from the top competitors. I understand it's confusing that they re called NA qualifiers but still
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On May 03 2020 17:47 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2020 17:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
So we have 1 player from either of the Americas and no Chinese players.
Hmmm. From a talent level perspective this is pretty cool, the best in Europe vs some of the best in Korea (minus Rogue, Dark and Maru) is going to make for some high level games.
But the fact that we had 3 "American" qualifiers and aside from Special all of the players to qualify from them were Europeans. does leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
I know this tournament had open qualifiers for every region so every player could play in every qualifier, but isn't the entire reason we started doing regionlocked tournaments is to avoid this very exact scenario? If this becomes the norm doesn't that mean that regionlocking needs to be reevaluated again?
Everyone freaked out when WCS America was just Korean players, this doesn't seem to be inciting that same reaction, why not?
Like I said, for just one tournament this doesn't really mean that much, but if we're going to have anti-Korean regionlocking, for other tournaments then EU conquests of the other regions should be a focus as well.
these are the rules of 1 specific tournament, and its qualifiers arent gonna be the golden standard for future tournaments I should think.
And I say as much in my post, but I just want to make it known that I think the qualifiers for this tournament especially when you consider it STARTED with giving seemingly 4 random invites out, has been a bit of a mess. In the future if they wanna do qualifiers either separate it by region properly and include a Chinese qualifier or make a series of truly open qualifiers so that anyone from any region can play in all of them.
The way this tournament did it seems like the worst of both options. And I get it, having to do the whole thing online is probably not what TL wanted to do originally so some sacrifices for COVID have to be made but still.
Once we're past how weird these qualifiers have been, now I just hope we get good games. We have a very strong pool of players here talent wise, so I want to see some good matches out of them.
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On May 03 2020 17:19 Geo.Rion wrote:
What's up with Neeb's PvP, he keeps getting knocked out by eu protoss in the deciding match. Ptitdrogo, Mana and now Harstem
TBH, as an american who always roots for neeb, I think neeb's tendency to be greedy, especially against players he assumes he is better than, is coming back to haunt him in the modern pvp, which is a coinflip-y matchup where anyone can win regardless of "skill"
ptitdrog, mana, and harstem, while on paper might be less talented than neeb, are certainly NOT pushovers, extremely talented players and students of the game. Neeb might not be taking them seriously or something imo
just my take
this is also why you see Neeb's PvZ fluctuate between extremely good against the best zergs in the world, and shaky against "lesser" zerg players
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On May 03 2020 18:03 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2020 17:47 Geo.Rion wrote:On May 03 2020 17:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
So we have 1 player from either of the Americas and no Chinese players.
Hmmm. From a talent level perspective this is pretty cool, the best in Europe vs some of the best in Korea (minus Rogue, Dark and Maru) is going to make for some high level games.
But the fact that we had 3 "American" qualifiers and aside from Special all of the players to qualify from them were Europeans. does leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
I know this tournament had open qualifiers for every region so every player could play in every qualifier, but isn't the entire reason we started doing regionlocked tournaments is to avoid this very exact scenario? If this becomes the norm doesn't that mean that regionlocking needs to be reevaluated again?
Everyone freaked out when WCS America was just Korean players, this doesn't seem to be inciting that same reaction, why not?
Like I said, for just one tournament this doesn't really mean that much, but if we're going to have anti-Korean regionlocking, for other tournaments then EU conquests of the other regions should be a focus as well.
these are the rules of 1 specific tournament, and its qualifiers arent gonna be the golden standard for future tournaments I should think. And I say as much in my post, but I just want to make it known that I think the qualifiers for this tournament especially when you consider it STARTED with giving seemingly 4 random invites out
Inviting the top 2 from each the Korean EPL standings and the non-Korean standings is hardly random. Just a series of declined invites left the Korean side with Zest-Inno.
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