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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 10:10:27
May 02 2020 10:09 GMT
#181
On May 02 2020 18:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 18:47 BaneRiders wrote:
On May 02 2020 18:38 JustPassingBy wrote:
Having a EU qualifier where neither the players are restricted geographically, nor the games are restricted serverwise is just weird. Why bother calling it EU qualifier to begin with?


Again, the servers are restricted according to the rules:

https://cdn.eslgaming.com/misc/media/play/starcraft/tsl/TSL5_Qualifiers_Rulebook.pdf

See section 1.1.3.1


Yes, but rules don't matter if they are broken by the tournament admins.


Precisely! Imagine a scenario where Special now earns some EPT points in this tourney and qualifies for the grand final because of it at the cost of someone else. Much as I like Special I would hate that to happen, because we would all know that the EPT point system had been compromised due to TSL 5 breaking its own rules. If I were Apollo I would do some calls right now, there is lots at stake here.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 10:40:58
May 02 2020 10:40 GMT
#182
The worst part is that the admins broke the rules deliberately and not out of ignorance. According to SKillous there were a lot of discussions in the TSL chat and Vanya, Mana argued with the admins before the games were played on NA.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2020 10:44 GMT
#183
Just want to drop in and say we're working on figuring this out. Sorry for the mess, hope we can find a way to fix as much of this as possible.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 02 2020 11:04 GMT
#184
On May 02 2020 19:44 Olli wrote:
Just want to drop in and say we're working on figuring this out. Sorry for the mess, hope we can find a way to fix as much of this as possible.


Good luck!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
May 02 2020 11:10 GMT
#185
On May 02 2020 19:44 Olli wrote:
Just want to drop in and say we're working on figuring this out. Sorry for the mess, hope we can find a way to fix as much of this as possible.

Just replay the Special games.
MaxPax
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 02 2020 11:11 GMT
#186
Respecfully pointing out existing problems is one thing, recklessly barking accuses is another; be thankful that we were gifted anothers TSL first, these qualifiers were flawed for sure but by no means "catastrophic", "the worst ever" as someone would deduct judging by the comments seen here.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 11:13:09
May 02 2020 11:11 GMT
#187
On May 02 2020 16:16 Durnuu wrote:
What a mess. TSL competing for the title of worst tournament organisation.
Particularly funny to see considering Koreans can only play in their own server qualifier, too. Wonder why the same doesn't apply to NA and EU players?

On May 02 2020 16:20 Ej_ wrote:
This is embarassing and pathetic.

On May 02 2020 17:04 Elentos wrote:
Yeah TSL is an organizational catastrophe to such extent that this thing giving out EPT points would be criminal at this point. It's getting worse with every passing qualifier.


You guys got it out of your system yet? Or do you need a couple more pages to score points with each other?

Obviously today did not go as smoothly as we had hoped for, but we are all here working hard to get the TSL going. There are lot of groups involved, and a lot of moving parts, so that sometimes leads to misunderstandings. But at the end of the day, all of us want a positive and fair result. I would imagine that goes the same for you.

As Olli said, we will let you know once it is sorted out, so save your armchair analysis until then. Just remember, what you type affects other people.

On May 02 2020 19:40 JustPassingBy wrote:
The worst part is that the admins broke the rules deliberately and not out of ignorance.


And this is the most insulting thing of all. If that is really what you think, then see you later.
ModeratorGodfather
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 02 2020 11:57 GMT
#188
Wel if everybody is working hard then it's ok! I will refrain from comments reflecting my negative opinion.

User was warned for this post
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4248 Posts
May 02 2020 12:50 GMT
#189
On May 02 2020 20:57 Ej_ wrote:
Wel if everybody is working hard then it's ok! I will refrain from comments reflecting my negative opinion.

User was warned for this post

why was he warned for this post?

what a mess..
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 14:29:27
May 02 2020 14:22 GMT
#190
On May 02 2020 21:50 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 20:57 Ej_ wrote:
Wel if everybody is working hard then it's ok! I will refrain from comments reflecting my negative opinion.

User was warned for this post

why was he warned for this post?

what a mess..


My guess is he wasn't warned for the post alone, but for the post in context of all his previous posts in this thread.

edit: Goblin vs soul is peak PvT and EMPs are just gross.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
May 02 2020 15:45 GMT
#191
EMp good unit, storm great unit.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 02 2020 16:06 GMT
#192
I can't imagine how mana must feel after losing that. Bly's games are wonkers.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 16:55:19
May 02 2020 16:54 GMT
#193
What a strange game between MaNa and souL. MaNa loses scores of workers to mines, but then wins every engagement due to souL attacking into awful position after awful position playing like he'd already won the game.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 02 2020 16:58 GMT
#194
What a choke by soul - felt like he tunnel visioned into liberators when Vikings might have been better against tempest colossi. Plus fell apart against the zealot harass. Good comeback by Mana tho
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 02 2020 17:01 GMT
#195
On May 03 2020 01:58 Bagration wrote:
What a choke by soul - felt like he tunnel visioned into liberators when Vikings might have been better against tempest colossi. Plus fell apart against the zealot harass. Good comeback by Mana tho


I think his composition was fine--anything would have done with that advantage. But doing stuff like pushing into the natural through the choke where your army gets stormed to death if they try to protect the very forward placed libs from all the tempest, and just letting the ghosts fight the colossi straight up is going to throw away any advantage. Props to MaNa for playing it very cool in those situations, and just zoning the army while picking away at the lib.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
May 02 2020 17:27 GMT
#196
Feel for soul. He looked great today. Hope he can get through someway
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 02 2020 17:28 GMT
#197
Mana and Special, TSL 2 represent!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 02 2020 17:32 GMT
#198
On May 03 2020 02:27 ssg wrote:
Feel for soul. He looked great today. Hope he can get through someway


It would have to be through AM qualifier 3 given that he's already out of AM qualifier 2.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 02 2020 17:36 GMT
#199
Congrats to Mana for qualifying! And congrats to Bly, Astrea, Neeb and Kelazhur, who just advanced another round in the AM qualifiers!
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
May 02 2020 17:36 GMT
#200
Just Harstem and Tlo to qualify for the full Liquid lineup. Harstem has a good shot as well considering how deep he is in the lower bracket. Man that last qualifier is going to be intense.
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