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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
March 01 2020 13:58 GMT
#861
On March 01 2020 22:51 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 22:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:44 Schelim wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:43 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:42 Z3nith wrote:
That was maybe the worst final I've ever seen


A couple of Maru's finals wins have been just as shitty. Not to speak of Rouge's other wins. These JAGW guys not doing the viewers any favours.

i remember when Hellbats were raining from the sky in every tournament

One of the absolute worst metas ever, remember when you could have 4 hellbats in a medivac lol?

remember that time when Bomber was the best TvT player in the world for a few weeks cause everybody played the same build every game and he made more units than everyone else and dropped them faster? there was a 4-Terran group in GSL or smth with Bomber, Flash, Inno and i think Ryung and Bomber went through undefeated with literally so many hellbats Tasteless

the role of Hellions/Hellbats in the development of the game is pretty funny in general. remember it took Terrans like a year and a half to figure out this unit was really good, when all the Slayers terrans showed up to some MLG and dropped blueflame hellions in every mineral line, terrorising the entire tournament? that's when people also realised the blueflame upgrade icon wasn't blue and they patched that

While my brain is muddled through too much booze, the Starcraft portion of my memory banks is largely intact.

Haha it was even more stupid when the medivacs would cross flight paths to unload hellbats and whatnot. I imagine the pilots waved at each other, ‘dropping some hellions?’ ‘Yeah all I’ve been doing this week’

Yeah that Slayers Blue flame hellion build was absolutely brutal

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9269 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 14:00:24
March 01 2020 13:59 GMT
#862
Just looked at the prizes and wow, Serral must be feeling pretty bad right now
You're now breathing manually
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 01 2020 13:59 GMT
#863
On March 01 2020 22:57 Latr02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 22:49 Fango wrote:
Zerg's current streak:

Last 5 IEM
Last 2 Code S
Last 3 blizzcon
Last 3 homestory cup
Last 2 GSL vs the World
Last 8 WCS
Last 1 super tournament


Irrelevant as Terran and Protoss hold the most EPS titles to this very day

indeed

nerf pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 01 2020 13:59 GMT
#864
On March 01 2020 22:56 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 22:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:51 Schelim wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:44 Schelim wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:43 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:42 Z3nith wrote:
That was maybe the worst final I've ever seen


A couple of Maru's finals wins have been just as shitty. Not to speak of Rouge's other wins. These JAGW guys not doing the viewers any favours.

i remember when Hellbats were raining from the sky in every tournament

One of the absolute worst metas ever, remember when you could have 4 hellbats in a medivac lol?

remember that time when Bomber was the best TvT player in the world for a few weeks cause everybody played the same build every game and he made more units than everyone else and dropped them faster? there was a 4-Terran group in GSL or smth with Bomber, Flash, Inno and i think Ryung and Bomber went through undefeated with literally so many hellbats Tasteless

the role of Hellions/Hellbats in the development of the game is pretty funny in general. remember it took Terrans like a year and a half to figure out this unit was really good, when all the Slayers terrans showed up to some MLG and dropped blueflame hellions in every mineral line, terrorising the entire tournament? that's when people also realised the blueflame upgrade icon wasn't blue and they patched that


They didn't update the icon until quite a while later iirc.

i think you're right actually, yeah

also for some reason i just remembered that GSL in 2012 where DRG and Genius were in the same group in both ro32 and ro16 and both made it out of both groups (ro16 had MKP and Nestea), then waltzed through the bracket and met in the finals, which was a pretty wild series with DRG winning like 4-2 or smth

Was that the one where he sent him off into the army?
It appears I have been chosen.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 01 2020 14:00 GMT
#865
Is the finals worth watching?
Mine gas, build tanks.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 01 2020 14:00 GMT
#866
On March 01 2020 22:55 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 22:49 Fango wrote:
Zerg's current streak:

Last 5 IEM
Last 2 Code S
Last 3 blizzcon
Last 3 homestory cup
Last 2 GSL vs the World
Last 8 WCS
Last 1 super tournament


Zerg really need to step it up at WESG


No need, Coronapollo made sure it's cancelled
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9269 Posts
March 01 2020 14:00 GMT
#867
On March 01 2020 23:00 Akio wrote:
Is the finals worth watching?


No
You're now breathing manually
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 14:02:39
March 01 2020 14:01 GMT
#868
On March 01 2020 23:00 Akio wrote:
Is the finals worth watching?


hahahahahaha

(Game 4 at a nice adept defense I guess)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2020 14:02 GMT
#869
On March 01 2020 22:59 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 22:56 Schelim wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:51 Schelim wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:44 Schelim wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:43 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 01 2020 22:42 Z3nith wrote:
That was maybe the worst final I've ever seen


A couple of Maru's finals wins have been just as shitty. Not to speak of Rouge's other wins. These JAGW guys not doing the viewers any favours.

i remember when Hellbats were raining from the sky in every tournament

One of the absolute worst metas ever, remember when you could have 4 hellbats in a medivac lol?

remember that time when Bomber was the best TvT player in the world for a few weeks cause everybody played the same build every game and he made more units than everyone else and dropped them faster? there was a 4-Terran group in GSL or smth with Bomber, Flash, Inno and i think Ryung and Bomber went through undefeated with literally so many hellbats Tasteless

the role of Hellions/Hellbats in the development of the game is pretty funny in general. remember it took Terrans like a year and a half to figure out this unit was really good, when all the Slayers terrans showed up to some MLG and dropped blueflame hellions in every mineral line, terrorising the entire tournament? that's when people also realised the blueflame upgrade icon wasn't blue and they patched that


They didn't update the icon until quite a while later iirc.

i think you're right actually, yeah

also for some reason i just remembered that GSL in 2012 where DRG and Genius were in the same group in both ro32 and ro16 and both made it out of both groups (ro16 had MKP and Nestea), then waltzed through the bracket and met in the finals, which was a pretty wild series with DRG winning like 4-2 or smth

Was that the one where he sent him off into the army?

oh yeah, pretty sure it was!
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
March 01 2020 14:04 GMT
#870
Thoughts on like, the games or anything?

I’ll have to rewatch a bit. Seems Zest brought this really optimised build to the table, and ran out of steam with it/made other mistakes too?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 01 2020 14:06 GMT
#871
On March 01 2020 23:00 Akio wrote:
Is the finals worth watching?


Nope was garbage imo but only lasted like 20 mins total prob
JD, need I say more? :D
LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
March 01 2020 14:07 GMT
#872
I think we can all agree that after this finals the most urgent need is to nerf cannon rushes.

Oh, and another nerf to observers.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2020 14:07 GMT
#873
On March 01 2020 22:43 Poopi wrote:
Rogue would have probably won as well against Serral but it would have been closer


Based on what, exactly? Surely not h2h nor Serral's performance against Zerg in this tournament.

Very disappointing final.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
March 01 2020 14:08 GMT
#874
Zest seemed way to stoic in his build + a bit lazy scouting = 2 really dumb map losses vs bane bust and roach ling allin. on Zen rogue scouted his proxy just in time - unlucky. on world of sleepers he basically had no plan at all to deal with the SH/Nydus and just hoped to win the game outright I guess?

Rogue did play pretty well, but Zest kinda handed him the win imo.
~~~~~
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 01 2020 14:08 GMT
#875
On March 01 2020 23:07 LTCM wrote:
I think we can all agree that after this finals the most urgent need is to nerf cannon rushes.

Oh, and another nerf to observers.

that's the protoss portion of the nerfs, what about the terran?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
March 01 2020 14:10 GMT
#876
On March 01 2020 23:08 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 23:07 LTCM wrote:
I think we can all agree that after this finals the most urgent need is to nerf cannon rushes.

Oh, and another nerf to observers.

that's the protoss portion of the nerfs, what about the terran?


Mules op. Orbital starts with zero energy.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 01 2020 14:12 GMT
#877
On March 01 2020 23:10 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 23:08 Penev wrote:
On March 01 2020 23:07 LTCM wrote:
I think we can all agree that after this finals the most urgent need is to nerf cannon rushes.

Oh, and another nerf to observers.

that's the protoss portion of the nerfs, what about the terran?


Mules op. Orbital starts with zero energy.


Still OP. You sacrifice 5 scvs to get a mule. And it happens automatically.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 01 2020 14:12 GMT
#878
On March 01 2020 23:10 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2020 23:08 Penev wrote:
On March 01 2020 23:07 LTCM wrote:
I think we can all agree that after this finals the most urgent need is to nerf cannon rushes.

Oh, and another nerf to observers.

that's the protoss portion of the nerfs, what about the terran?


Mules op. Orbital starts with zero energy.


Supply depot that can lower, what's that about, the zerg and protoss need to make sophisticated sim-city and hold position micro and terran can just put building, does that seems fair to you?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
March 01 2020 14:12 GMT
#879
No one can beat Rogue's Bo7 record now.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
March 01 2020 14:12 GMT
#880
On March 01 2020 23:00 Akio wrote:
Is the finals worth watching?


Only for the humor.
It's not long if you really need to kill a few minutes. Rogue knew what Zest was gonna do and just kinda stomped him with aggressive stuff.
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