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Northern Ireland26715 Posts
On February 29 2020 06:03 vult wrote:
LR threads are cancerous when it comes to bracket draws. No one is ever satisfied.
It’s remarkable how they consistently rig brackets so the fans don’t get the head to heads and matchups they want.
Call me crazy but if I was part of the shadowy ‘SC2 bracket rigging’ cabal I’d try better to rig them for viewers and hype than do the opposite.
Almost makes me think they’re not actually rigged or something.
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On February 29 2020 06:04 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 05:59 Schelim wrote:On February 29 2020 05:57 Penev wrote:On February 29 2020 05:55 Schelim wrote:On February 29 2020 05:53 Penev wrote:On February 29 2020 05:52 Schelim wrote:
Okay i missed all of this group is TY or Hurricane through? Harry Thanks! Sucks though cause i love TY :/ I thought i wouldnt be at my moms for long but i'm actually on the tram home now. She kept coming up with more furniture to assemble and move. To be fair we also had a good long conversation, dont see her often anymore let's not beat around the bush: how was here cooking? Good! I feel like ever since the kids were out the house she started enjoying cooking cause it's not something she absolutely has to do anymore. And she asks for my input so that helps Well it's good you had some wholesome quality time with your mother but I'm not gonna lie; You missed quite the group of starcraft today. If you can take terrans failing at the very end.
Oh well it happens. Tomorrow i have brunch with my triathlon team and a little get-together at my friend's new flat in the evening so wont be able to catch everything either
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On February 29 2020 06:04 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:02 Nakajin wrote:On February 29 2020 06:01 Schelim wrote:
How did Hurricane beat Serral? Macro mid game pushes basically, nothing too strange What? Game 2 was super allin
Designated immortal pressure
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On February 29 2020 06:07 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:03 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 29 2020 06:02 Olli wrote:
PvP best mirror, happy about this bracket Still a man of taste I see. I saw some people talk shit about PvP earlier after the Maru vs TY game. Somehow watching two people do nothing for 40 minutes is more entertaining to some than the amazing back and forth PvPs we've had quite regularly this tournament.
Maru vs TY? :O
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On February 29 2020 06:07 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:03 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 29 2020 06:02 Olli wrote:
PvP best mirror, happy about this bracket Still a man of taste I see. I saw some people talk shit about PvP earlier after the Maru vs TY game. Somehow watching two people do nothing for 40 minutes is more entertaining to some than the amazing back and forth PvPs we've had quite regularly this tournament.
Maru and TY were in different groups.
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On February 29 2020 06:07 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:03 vult wrote:
LR threads are cancerous when it comes to bracket draws. No one is ever satisfied. It’s remarkable how they consistently rig brackets so the fans don’t get the head to heads and matchups they want. Call me crazy but if I was part of the shadowy ‘SC2 bracket rigging’ cabal I’d try better to rig them for viewers and hype than do the opposite. Almost makes me think they’re not actually rigged or something.
Well if it's not rigged it's someone having an insanely consistent cosmic streak of drawing the same brackets every tournament.
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Finals is Dank vs Inno or Serral imo
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On February 29 2020 06:07 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:03 vult wrote:
LR threads are cancerous when it comes to bracket draws. No one is ever satisfied. It’s remarkable how they consistently rig brackets so the fans don’t get the head to heads and matchups they want. Call me crazy but if I was part of the shadowy ‘SC2 bracket rigging’ cabal I’d try better to rig them for viewers and hype than do the opposite. Almost makes me think they’re not actually rigged or something.
It's a shitty bracket tbh, not just because of players but also because of races.
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On February 29 2020 05:56 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 05:54 stilt wrote:
This is quite hilarous, Hurricane who steals the spot to TY x) More like Serral donating it to Hurricane out of nowhere. Even Lambo took a map against Hurricane.
Game 1 was a donation for sure (0 scouting, aware of the protoss push only once it reaches the creep...) but still, it's so odd.
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Canada8989 Posts
On February 29 2020 06:07 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:04 blooblooblahblah wrote:On February 29 2020 06:02 Nakajin wrote:On February 29 2020 06:01 Schelim wrote:
How did Hurricane beat Serral? Macro mid game pushes basically, nothing too strange What? Game 2 was super allin Designated immortal pressure
Skill check push
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On February 29 2020 06:00 Elentos wrote:I can't remember the last time a tournament outside of Korea had a bracket that didn't look rigged and was considered bad.
That's a fallacy really. You wouldn't intentionally rig a tournament to have so many mirrors. Whereas tournaments in Korea seem supernaturally good at spreading the players out (possibly due to seeding being determined by mysterious point systems).
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On February 29 2020 06:06 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:05 Azhrak wrote:I really dislike the tie-breaker rules here. Why on earth is head to head never even considered? I would put head to head over overall map wins any day in a 2 player tie situation. Rules from Liquipedia: + Show Spoiler +1. Overall map difference
2. Overall number of map wins
3. Match wins amassed between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
4. Map difference between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
5. Number of map wins between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
6. Tie breaker matches
7. Coin toss Head to head is point 3 in that list. TY needed to win 1 map against sOs or Serral, and he absolutely botched it for himself. At the same time, Serral losing to Hurricane is absolute shenanigans.
You are correect. The very generic way of describing the h2h here eluded me. Sure, it's about preference but when there is just 2 players in a tie, the h2h should have more value IMO.
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Aside for the mirror (which no one really likes), why do people think it's rigged ?
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On February 29 2020 06:10 stilt wrote:
Aside for the mirror (which no one really likes), why do people think it's rigged ?
Tinfoil hats
I hear they protect against Corona
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Austria24422 Posts
On February 29 2020 06:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 06:07 Olli wrote:On February 29 2020 06:03 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 29 2020 06:02 Olli wrote:
PvP best mirror, happy about this bracket Still a man of taste I see. I saw some people talk shit about PvP earlier after the Maru vs TY game. Somehow watching two people do nothing for 40 minutes is more entertaining to some than the amazing back and forth PvPs we've had quite regularly this tournament. Maru and TY were in different groups.
Yeah TY Cure, wrong Jin Air Terran
It was so boring I barely remember who played it
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On February 29 2020 05:59 TentativePanda wrote:
Makes no sense to me that Hurricane advances over TY. TY had better win percentage and beat Hurricane in the head to head
Extra mad that these two tosses tossed their way into ruining perfect Ro12 balance
Easy there, 2 terrans is already pushing it for IEM standards.
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Can someone tell me what happened in sOs vs Cure game 3, I had to rush to the store before they closed and missed it :/ Cant believe both terrans out. My T tears are flowing freely
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People who think it's rigged don't realize that they split the players up so that 2nd-3rd finishers cannot face eachother in the RO12. There is only limited combinations you can get after that.
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Northern Ireland26715 Posts
On February 29 2020 06:05 Azhrak wrote:I really dislike the tie-breaker rules here. Why on earth is head to head never even considered? I would put head to head over overall map wins any day in a 2 player tie situation. Rules from Liquipedia: + Show Spoiler +1. Overall map difference
2. Overall number of map wins
3. Match wins amassed between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
4. Map difference between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
5. Number of map wins between the tied participants ('Mini-League')
6. Tie breaker matches
7. Coin toss
I don’t really like head-to-head being above sets won, equally I don’t like pure set differential either. Percentage set win I prefer.
I can understand a preference for head to head, I just don’t personally like it in this format. Would definitely have it as a tie-breaker if the above is equal.
To me it’s a round robin and you’re testing your skills against the whole group, various races etc. So I think how you do overall should trump head-to-head.
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Canada8989 Posts
On February 29 2020 06:10 stilt wrote:
Aside for the mirror (which no one really likes), why do people think it's rigged ?
Because Serral keep winning, but Koreans are better at everything, they are jet lag, he keep getting lucky, the commentators are biais, his win aren't really impressive and he keep missing the insanely good koreans that would surely crush him if the bracket was done right
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