On February 29 2020 01:22 DieuCure wrote:
Cure on C-stream again, why ?
Cure on C-stream again, why ?
Have you actually spelled his nick outloud?
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Ej_
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On February 29 2020 01:22 DieuCure wrote: Cure on C-stream again, why ? Have you actually spelled his nick outloud? | ||
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Elentos
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On February 29 2020 01:22 DieuCure wrote: Cure on C-stream again, why ? Do I have to spell it out for you? | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:21 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:20 Geo.Rion wrote: On February 29 2020 01:19 Waxangel wrote: It's okay guys when I get a billion dollars I will just unify all of pro SC2 under the Wax-league and hold a 128 person swiss format over a week to determine the winner, no playoffs or anything ![]() we'll hold it in monte carlo or somethign would watch it too who would win tho? And what race would be the strongest discuss If they did best of 99 (the only real format), I think terran has it on lockdown | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
Maybe TL is more similar to actual progamers than we realize | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7180 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:21 Vindicare605 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:18 Xain0n wrote: On February 29 2020 01:11 Nakajin wrote: On February 29 2020 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: On February 29 2020 01:02 Xain0n wrote: On February 29 2020 00:55 MarianoSC2 wrote: On February 29 2020 00:30 Xain0n wrote: Elazer threw the biggest opportunity he ever had to get to the ro12 in Katowice by spine rushing Solar. I guess it was his turn to get out because of that after defeating Dark in the same fashion, but I'm super disappointed. Also, people keep ignoring Elazer or comparing him to weak players but in the end his performance was pretty much like Solar's. You guys will never learn and will act surprised when Elazer upsets another fan favourite. Or maybe you should stop over-hyping a player who had 1 good result in the last 3 years, while getting constantly crushed by the better Koreans everywhere else. He is 25-49 in offline BO3+ matches against Korea, but almost all of his wins come from beating players like True, Leenock, Top... He is super duper mediocre. But I understand the results of the foreign-land so far are making you mad so you need to kick around you a bit ![]() Overhyping? Recently he defeated stronger koreans, don't you think? Elazer has no hope against korean Terrans, but he can beat good koreans in ZvP and ZvZ. Thus said, no one should consider Elazer a favourite, he is not even a top5 WCS player actually, but he is absolutely not "super duper mediocre" as you think he is. Not counting this IEM, from his last 20 matches against Korea he beat: MMA (retired player), Creator and Trust (irrelevant players), Bunny, Solarx2 (3:2 every time) and 1 lucky win against Dark. If this is not a definition of mediocrity with a lucky scrappy win here and there then I dont know what is. Seeing you two back at it bring back so much memories And it's about Elazer, this time. You are free to believe he's a mediocre player, I'll call you out the next time he pulls out some interesting upset; Elazer's victory against Dark was not lucky, he outplayed him in lategame ZvZ. You actually think that glorified showmatch known as GSL vs the World actually means anything. That's the part that you get wrong. The GSL players OBVIOUSLY don't take those games seriously. That was true of the first tournament and of the second one also. Dark was just coming off of his Code S win and was going to get paid just for showing up to the vs the World. Do you think he actually came prepared or practiced? Elazer came in hungry and took the games seriously and Dark didn't. Want to see what happens when Dark wants it? Blizzcon happens. What happened at Blizzcon? Oh right, Dark embarassed the hell out of the EU Zergs, it wasn't even remotely close. 25k $ ??!!! You gotta be kidding | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:22 Waxangel wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:21 Ej_ wrote: On February 29 2020 01:19 Waxangel wrote: It's okay guys when I get a billion dollars I will just unify all of pro SC2 under the Wax-league and hold a 128 person swiss format over a week to determine the world champion and give him $1,000,0000 prize, no playoffs or anything ![]() we'll hold it in monte carlo or somethign So just offline ladder? Serral has already won that from his home stakes make the competition (imaginary or real) This is the perfect moment to demand a new TSL with ladder qualifiers. I'll take it at either Starcraft, tyvm. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:21 Vindicare605 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:18 Xain0n wrote: On February 29 2020 01:11 Nakajin wrote: On February 29 2020 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: On February 29 2020 01:02 Xain0n wrote: On February 29 2020 00:55 MarianoSC2 wrote: On February 29 2020 00:30 Xain0n wrote: Elazer threw the biggest opportunity he ever had to get to the ro12 in Katowice by spine rushing Solar. I guess it was his turn to get out because of that after defeating Dark in the same fashion, but I'm super disappointed. Also, people keep ignoring Elazer or comparing him to weak players but in the end his performance was pretty much like Solar's. You guys will never learn and will act surprised when Elazer upsets another fan favourite. Or maybe you should stop over-hyping a player who had 1 good result in the last 3 years, while getting constantly crushed by the better Koreans everywhere else. He is 25-49 in offline BO3+ matches against Korea, but almost all of his wins come from beating players like True, Leenock, Top... He is super duper mediocre. But I understand the results of the foreign-land so far are making you mad so you need to kick around you a bit ![]() Overhyping? Recently he defeated stronger koreans, don't you think? Elazer has no hope against korean Terrans, but he can beat good koreans in ZvP and ZvZ. Thus said, no one should consider Elazer a favourite, he is not even a top5 WCS player actually, but he is absolutely not "super duper mediocre" as you think he is. Not counting this IEM, from his last 20 matches against Korea he beat: MMA (retired player), Creator and Trust (irrelevant players), Bunny, Solarx2 (3:2 every time) and 1 lucky win against Dark. If this is not a definition of mediocrity with a lucky scrappy win here and there then I dont know what is. Seeing you two back at it bring back so much memories And it's about Elazer, this time. You are free to believe he's a mediocre player, I'll call you out the next time he pulls out some interesting upset; Elazer's victory against Dark was not lucky, he outplayed him in lategame ZvZ. You actually think that glorified showmatch known as GSL vs the World actually means anything. That's the part that you get wrong. The GSL players OBVIOUSLY don't take those games seriously. That was true of the first tournament and of the second one also. Dark was just coming off of his Code S win and was going to get paid just for showing up to the vs the World. Do you think he actually came prepared or practiced? Elazer came in hungry and took the games seriously and Dark didn't. Want to see what happens when Dark wants it? Blizzcon happens. What happened at Blizzcon? Oh right, Dark embarassed the hell out of the EU Zergs, it wasn't even remotely close. Say that to Serral’s face I bet you won’t ![]() | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:19 Waxangel wrote: It's okay guys when I get a billion dollars I will just unify all of pro SC2 under the Wax-league and hold a 128 person swiss format over a week to determine the world champion and give him $1,000,0000 prize, no playoffs or anything ![]() we'll hold it in monte carlo or somethign Lol that's nothing. Duke TaKe once held an entire tournament on a tropical island. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:23 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:21 Penev wrote: On February 29 2020 01:20 Geo.Rion wrote: On February 29 2020 01:19 Waxangel wrote: It's okay guys when I get a billion dollars I will just unify all of pro SC2 under the Wax-league and hold a 128 person swiss format over a week to determine the winner, no playoffs or anything ![]() we'll hold it in monte carlo or somethign would watch it too who would win tho? And what race would be the strongest discuss If they did best of 99 (the only real format), I think terran has it on lockdown I guess in a 128 player tournament in Bo99 format, we could reach the day that lockdown is added back in. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:16 TaKeTV wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:14 stilt wrote: On February 29 2020 01:12 TaKeTV wrote: On February 29 2020 01:10 darklycid wrote: Terran has a solid 58% winrate in this tournament vs zerg which is even more than protoss has in a match up that is declared as "completely broken" ![]() A person that only looks at the pure winrate is really not in the position to discuss the match up. Maru winning over Elazer gives absolutely no input to a valid balance discussion. Neither would me losing to Elazer give any value. In theory I could see a tournament with 90% winrate for Terran coming from 2 or 3 raxing yet I wouldnt say the match up is "alright". I am not disagreeing but when you said it has ZERO value, you're implying the difference between you and Elazer is the same between Elazer and Maru. It's a bit disrespectful. I agree, its not exactly the same. It holds some value but certainly the relevance it holds to a balance discussion is worse than players on even terms. Fair enough. That said, I am bit perplexed like Serral in his interview, I don't understand why T are playing that much bio while the thors has been buffed and its counters nerf, I mean, on paper, it should be viable no ? | ||
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D-light
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Ej_
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On February 29 2020 01:24 stilt wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:16 TaKeTV wrote: On February 29 2020 01:14 stilt wrote: On February 29 2020 01:12 TaKeTV wrote: On February 29 2020 01:10 darklycid wrote: Terran has a solid 58% winrate in this tournament vs zerg which is even more than protoss has in a match up that is declared as "completely broken" ![]() A person that only looks at the pure winrate is really not in the position to discuss the match up. Maru winning over Elazer gives absolutely no input to a valid balance discussion. Neither would me losing to Elazer give any value. In theory I could see a tournament with 90% winrate for Terran coming from 2 or 3 raxing yet I wouldnt say the match up is "alright". I am not disagreeing but when you said it has ZERO value, you're implying the difference between you and Elazer is the same between Elazer and Maru. It's a bit disrespectful. I agree, its not exactly the same. It holds some value but certainly the relevance it holds to a balance discussion is worse than players on even terms. Fair enough. That said, I am bit perplexed like Serral in his interview, I don't understand why T are playing that much bio while the thors has been buffed and its counters nerf, I mean, on paper, it should be viable no ? Bio is much easier to win with if you are the better player. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7180 Posts
Inno, speaking like the robot he is, talking about passion | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:23 Ej_ wrote: Have you actually spelled his nick outloud? Banter and all, but Maru and INno are in ! ![]() | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:24 Zambrah wrote: Show nested quote + On February 29 2020 01:21 Vindicare605 wrote: On February 29 2020 01:18 Xain0n wrote: On February 29 2020 01:11 Nakajin wrote: On February 29 2020 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: On February 29 2020 01:02 Xain0n wrote: On February 29 2020 00:55 MarianoSC2 wrote: On February 29 2020 00:30 Xain0n wrote: Elazer threw the biggest opportunity he ever had to get to the ro12 in Katowice by spine rushing Solar. I guess it was his turn to get out because of that after defeating Dark in the same fashion, but I'm super disappointed. Also, people keep ignoring Elazer or comparing him to weak players but in the end his performance was pretty much like Solar's. You guys will never learn and will act surprised when Elazer upsets another fan favourite. Or maybe you should stop over-hyping a player who had 1 good result in the last 3 years, while getting constantly crushed by the better Koreans everywhere else. He is 25-49 in offline BO3+ matches against Korea, but almost all of his wins come from beating players like True, Leenock, Top... He is super duper mediocre. But I understand the results of the foreign-land so far are making you mad so you need to kick around you a bit ![]() Overhyping? Recently he defeated stronger koreans, don't you think? Elazer has no hope against korean Terrans, but he can beat good koreans in ZvP and ZvZ. Thus said, no one should consider Elazer a favourite, he is not even a top5 WCS player actually, but he is absolutely not "super duper mediocre" as you think he is. Not counting this IEM, from his last 20 matches against Korea he beat: MMA (retired player), Creator and Trust (irrelevant players), Bunny, Solarx2 (3:2 every time) and 1 lucky win against Dark. If this is not a definition of mediocrity with a lucky scrappy win here and there then I dont know what is. Seeing you two back at it bring back so much memories And it's about Elazer, this time. You are free to believe he's a mediocre player, I'll call you out the next time he pulls out some interesting upset; Elazer's victory against Dark was not lucky, he outplayed him in lategame ZvZ. You actually think that glorified showmatch known as GSL vs the World actually means anything. That's the part that you get wrong. The GSL players OBVIOUSLY don't take those games seriously. That was true of the first tournament and of the second one also. Dark was just coming off of his Code S win and was going to get paid just for showing up to the vs the World. Do you think he actually came prepared or practiced? Elazer came in hungry and took the games seriously and Dark didn't. Want to see what happens when Dark wants it? Blizzcon happens. What happened at Blizzcon? Oh right, Dark embarassed the hell out of the EU Zergs, it wasn't even remotely close. Say that to Serral’s face I bet you won’t ![]() Why would Serral care? He's won a Blizzcon, if I said word for word what I just said he'd probably just tell me that if he had beaten Reynor he would have beaten Dark. We'll never know will we? | ||
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virpi
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
everyone: I only play starcraft/ I watch youtube/movies Dark: I get fucking drunk | ||
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Elentos
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On February 29 2020 01:27 virpi wrote: I really like these bits. They're kinda getting in the way of my gameplay though. | ||
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