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[IEM 2020] Katowice - Round of 24 - Group C & D - Page 34
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darklycid
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Elentos
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Argonauta
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Penev
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Nakajin
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On February 29 2020 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: Not counting this IEM, from his last 20 matches against Korea he beat: MMA (retired player), Creator and Trust (irrelevant players), Bunny, Solarx2 (3:2 every time) and 1 lucky win against Dark. If this is not a definition of mediocrity with a lucky scrappy win here and there then I dont know what is. Seeing you two back at it bring back so much memories  | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On February 29 2020 01:07 TaKeTV wrote: T>Z ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????  IEM Katowice/2020/Statistics | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:10 darklycid wrote: Terran has a solid 58% winrate in this tournament vs zerg which is even more than protoss has in a match up that is declared as "completely broken" A person that only looks at the pure winrate is really not in the position to discuss the match up. Maru winning over Elazer gives absolutely no input to a valid balance discussion. Neither would me losing to Elazer give any value. In theory I could see a tournament with 90% winrate for Terran coming from 2 or 3 raxing yet I wouldnt say the match up is "alright". | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:11 Geo.Rion wrote: https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/IEM_Katowice/2020/Statistics a) see my post after yours b) its wrong also, shows INno 4-0 for example which is incorrect. | ||
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Ej_
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On February 29 2020 01:12 TaKeTV wrote: In theory I could see a tournament with 90% winrate for Terran coming from 2 or 3 raxing yet I wouldnt say the match up is "alright". Of course, if Terran could get to 90% WR with 2rax, it would be a fucking joke. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:12 TaKeTV wrote: A person that only looks at the pure winrate is really not in the position to discuss the match up. Maru winning over Elazer gives absolutely no input to a valid balance discussion. Neither would me losing to Elazer give any value. In theory I could see a tournament with 90% winrate for Terran coming from 2 or 3 raxing yet I wouldnt say the match up is "alright". I am not disagreeing but when you said it has ZERO value, you're implying the difference between you and Elazer is the same between Elazer and Maru. It's a bit disrespectful. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:12 TaKeTV wrote: A person that only looks at the pure winrate is really not in the position to discuss the match up. Maru winning over Elazer gives absolutely no input to a valid balance discussion. Neither would me losing to Elazer give any value. In theory I could see a tournament with 90% winrate for Terran coming from 2 or 3 raxing yet I wouldnt say the match up is "alright". Uhh take. I was joking. Sorry if sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet. | ||
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darklycid
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On February 29 2020 01:14 Vindicare605 wrote: Uhh take. I was joking. Sorry if sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet. That's naruto but yeah i wasn't serious either thought the smiley would give it away :D | ||
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DieuCure
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Elentos
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On February 29 2020 01:14 Vindicare605 wrote: Uhh take. I was joking. Sorry if sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet. It's not Take and he didn't respond to you unless you're admitting to using alt accounts | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On February 29 2020 01:14 stilt wrote: I am not disagreeing but when you said it has ZERO value, you're implying the difference between you and Elazer is the same between Elazer and Maru. It's a bit disrespectful. I agree, its not exactly the same. It holds some value but certainly the relevance it holds to a balance discussion is worse than players on even terms. | ||
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Zambrah
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Vindicare605
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On February 29 2020 01:07 TaKeTV wrote: T>Z ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? @Elentos Uh yea he did. It was this post that started the actual statistics digging. | ||
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Elentos
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Penev
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Geo.Rion
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On February 29 2020 01:13 TaKeTV wrote: a) see my post after yours b) its wrong also, shows INno 4-0 for example which is incorrect. Welll, you put 30 question marks, i've just linked why people said it. Statistics are tricky, but once someone starts to selectively dismiss results, he's in no position to discuss the matchup. | ||
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