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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 03:57 Schelim wrote: yeah maybe, but it's not really a team competition at that point is it. i find that rather anti climactic tbh That possibility has always been the norm for NationWars. MarineLorD won NW3 essentially by himself. But the one man army teams haven't made a final since then. So you know, if nothing else, it's something different. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 09 2019 03:54 Elentos wrote: Serral vs 3 not-top-right-now Koreans seems an even match. Oh they're playing 1v3?  | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 09 2019 03:57 Elentos wrote: Unrelated note, but without the rich geysers this map is really dumb. It just feels so gas starved. Doesn't even feel like you can play a half decent game of mech on it. Tbf the total amount of gas on the map didn't change, so I think mech wasn't particularly good on it in the first place. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:00 Elentos wrote: That possibility has always been the norm for NationWars. MarineLorD won NW3 essentially by himself. But the one man army teams haven't made a final since then. So you know, if nothing else, it's something different. eh, sure. that doesn't mean i have to love the format. of course Serral is amazing but when the only excitement the other 2 guys bring is "will he cannonrush? how long will they survive?" it's a little meh | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Tbf the total amount of gas on the map didn't change, so I think mech wasn't particularly good on it in the first place. The build up is just slower. Of course, the map just sucks for Terran in general anyway so there's no reason to play on it outside of BO7. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:03 Schelim wrote: eh, sure. that doesn't mean i have to love the format. of course Serral is amazing but when the only excitement the other 2 guys bring is "will he cannonrush? how long will they survive?" it's a little meh Well you know, I don't like it either, but if the matches are any close at least I'll be decently entertained. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:03 Elentos wrote: The build up is just slower. Of course, the map just sucks for Terran in general anyway so there's no reason to play on it outside of BO7. Yeah it's pretty awful in TvZ. 45% on Liquipedia, but only 37% if you filter out games between weaker players... Makes it the fifth worse TvZ map in LotV. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah it's pretty awful in TvZ. 45% on Liquipedia, but only 37% if you filter out games between weaker players... Makes it the fifth worse TvZ map in LotV. It's depressing that there's 4 worse ones. What are they? Clem is probably the positive surprise of this NW. Hopefully he can retain this level for 2020 and be a relevant Terran hope. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: Throw of the century by Clem? Not even of the year but really terrible nonetheless. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: Throw of the century by Clem? a throw implies you were far ahead, which was not really the case | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:12 Elentos wrote: It's depressing that there's 4 worse ones. What are they? Clem is probably the positive surprise of this NW. Hopefully he can retain this level for 2020 and be a relevant Terran hope. Invader, Turbo Cruise, Interloper and Darkness Sanctuary. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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stilt
France2749 Posts
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Topin
Peru10078 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Invader, Turbo Cruise, Interloper and Darkness Sanctuary. 3 good TvZ maps that had their stats ruined by non-Korean Terrans and a huge 4 player map | ||
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ilax30
720 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:15 Makro wrote: a throw implies you were far ahead, which was not really the case He was very far ahead though in all aspects of the game = economy, tech, army composition. He just totally botched several engagements in a row | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: He was very far ahead though in all aspects of the game = economy, tech, army composition. He just totally botched several engagements in a row He botched one engagement. And it's not even a botch. Reynor's swarmhost surround was just good and clem didnt see it. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 09 2019 04:19 royalroadweed wrote: He botched one engagement. And it's not even a botch. Reynor's swarmhost surround was just good and clem didnt see it. I'd say it counts as botched when you're not even attacking them but just taking a leisurely stroll into the locusts as they fire at you and block your path. Also it's one of the most important things with that playstyle to know where your opponent is and not get hopelessly surrounded tbh. | ||
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