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On November 02 2019 12:10 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:07 Nakajin wrote:
So many cool possibility: Reynor winning WCS at 17
Classic ending his carreer as world champion
The Emperor last son finaly giving Boxer his world champion Compared to Parting, who was the youngest one?
Life probably?
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On November 02 2019 12:12 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:04 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 digmouse wrote:
I don't really understand what Serral's game plan really is. He already totally shutdown the exact same playstyle the map before, does he really believe he is that better to be able to pull it off? asking myself the same questions style on the cocky teenage greenhorn who tried to embarrass you with a n00b build by using said build to eliminate him overconfidence and big ego is sucha a b* sometimes  it's weird serral is usually pretty humble says that he is scared of players like neeb and showtime, before proceeding to crush him when asked about reynor he often talking shit "he should be easy" "he is bad at lategame"
Serral is only human. He can have rivals.
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I'm torn, Dark is pretty much my fav
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I am devastated - it's 3 a.m. and the only reason I'm pulling an all-nighter is Serral 
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Someone from Blizzard please see this, Nathanias' voice hurts, put a filter on him or turn down his volume
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On November 02 2019 12:13 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:10 swarminfestor wrote:On November 02 2019 12:07 Nakajin wrote:
So many cool possibility: Reynor winning WCS at 17
Classic ending his carreer as world champion
The Emperor last son finaly giving Boxer his world champion Compared to Parting, who was the youngest one? Life probably?
Who?
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If only Trap woud've taken game5, Serral would've been poised to take it all. It's the little things.
Classic plz take my energy!
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On November 02 2019 12:12 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:04 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 digmouse wrote:
I don't really understand what Serral's game plan really is. He already totally shutdown the exact same playstyle the map before, does he really believe he is that better to be able to pull it off? asking myself the same questions style on the cocky teenage greenhorn who tried to embarrass you with a n00b build by using said build to eliminate him overconfidence and big ego is sucha a b* sometimes it's weird serral is usually pretty humble says that he is scared of players like neeb and showtime, before proceeding to crush him when asked about reynor he often talking shit "he should be easy" "he is bad at lategame"
I would suspect those statements are in good fun. I think Serral is not overly humble or arrogant but actually very level headed and objective about his chances of winning against upcoming opponents.
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On November 02 2019 12:13 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:12 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 digmouse wrote:
I don't really understand what Serral's game plan really is. He already totally shutdown the exact same playstyle the map before, does he really believe he is that better to be able to pull it off? asking myself the same questions style on the cocky teenage greenhorn who tried to embarrass you with a n00b build by using said build to eliminate him overconfidence and big ego is sucha a b* sometimes it's weird serral is usually pretty humble says that he is scared of players like neeb and showtime, before proceeding to crush him when asked about reynor he often talking shit "he should be easy" "he is bad at lategame" Serral is only human. He can have rivals.
He’s probably especially friendly with Reynor so he feels okay being a bit shittalkier
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On November 02 2019 12:14 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:13 pvsnp wrote:On November 02 2019 12:12 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 digmouse wrote:
I don't really understand what Serral's game plan really is. He already totally shutdown the exact same playstyle the map before, does he really believe he is that better to be able to pull it off? asking myself the same questions style on the cocky teenage greenhorn who tried to embarrass you with a n00b build by using said build to eliminate him overconfidence and big ego is sucha a b* sometimes it's weird serral is usually pretty humble says that he is scared of players like neeb and showtime, before proceeding to crush him when asked about reynor he often talking shit "he should be easy" "he is bad at lategame" Serral is only human. He can have rivals. He’s probably especially friendly with Reynor so he feels okay being a bit shittalkier
Well, i suspect it bit him in the ass hard enough not to shit talk him in official elimination matches anymore.
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On November 02 2019 12:13 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:00 digmouse wrote:On November 02 2019 11:58 Zambrah wrote:
What does Serral even do to win from here 10+ vipers, other than that any charge is a highway to hell. Even vipers aren't enough. Since hydra/lurkers support vipers so much better than all the melee units that don't shoot up that Serral had. Nah, 10+ vipers would give him a small shot since to be honest Reynor's supporting cast for vipers lacked, it was literally mass lurker. But only 3 with 2 blinding clouds total? Not a chance. Sure but the opponent's vipers just yoink yours to kill them with hydras and you can't do the same. If you manage to throw enough blinding clouds to disable most of lurkers, you have a chance. If you don't, RIP, vipers own fate is irrelevant. It doesn't disable though, just shorten the range. Which doesn't matter against melee units, the lurkers attack anyway at full range if you actually commit into it (just a little later) Are you sure you are not confusing it with Dark Swarm? I do know that roach/hydra can use their melee attack in blinding cloud, and i do not have client on hand right now to test it. Well you just said it, hydra/roach attack under blinding clowd. So lurkers would as well on melee range, but their spike attack would still travel all the way aka attack on full range. Thing is: hydra and roach very explicitly have a melee attack, i played enough with SC2Editor back in the day to know that. Do burrowed lurkers?
They don't have a melee attack. They just have a different attack animation when in melee range.
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On November 02 2019 12:12 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:04 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 digmouse wrote:
I don't really understand what Serral's game plan really is. He already totally shutdown the exact same playstyle the map before, does he really believe he is that better to be able to pull it off? asking myself the same questions style on the cocky teenage greenhorn who tried to embarrass you with a n00b build by using said build to eliminate him overconfidence and big ego is sucha a b* sometimes it's weird serral is usually pretty humble says that he is scared of players like neeb and showtime, before proceeding to crush him when asked about reynor he often talking shit "he should be easy" "he is bad at lategame"
after g1 i expected swift 3-0, but after game 4 serral should've stopped f-k arround and play serious. this was some next level 'lemme show you how its done' into epic loss
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On November 02 2019 12:13 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:12 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 BerserkSword wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 NotSoHappy wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 digmouse wrote:
I don't really understand what Serral's game plan really is. He already totally shutdown the exact same playstyle the map before, does he really believe he is that better to be able to pull it off? asking myself the same questions style on the cocky teenage greenhorn who tried to embarrass you with a n00b build by using said build to eliminate him overconfidence and big ego is sucha a b* sometimes it's weird serral is usually pretty humble says that he is scared of players like neeb and showtime, before proceeding to crush him when asked about reynor he often talking shit "he should be easy" "he is bad at lategame" Serral is only human. He can have rivals. And a young European Zerg prodigy with a meteoric rise? The reflection of himself probably gives him at least some pause.
He shouldn't be so cocky if he's gonna get embarrassed that badly
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On November 02 2019 12:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:00 digmouse wrote:
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10+ vipers, other than that any charge is a highway to hell. Even vipers aren't enough. Since hydra/lurkers support vipers so much better than all the melee units that don't shoot up that Serral had. Nah, 10+ vipers would give him a small shot since to be honest Reynor's supporting cast for vipers lacked, it was literally mass lurker. But only 3 with 2 blinding clouds total? Not a chance. Sure but the opponent's vipers just yoink yours to kill them with hydras and you can't do the same. If you manage to throw enough blinding clouds to disable most of lurkers, you have a chance. If you don't, RIP, vipers own fate is irrelevant. It doesn't disable though, just shorten the range. Which doesn't matter against melee units, the lurkers attack anyway at full range if you actually commit into it (just a little later) Are you sure you are not confusing it with Dark Swarm? I do know that roach/hydra can use their melee attack in blinding cloud, and i do not have client on hand right now to test it. Well you just said it, hydra/roach attack under blinding clowd. So lurkers would as well on melee range, but their spike attack would still travel all the way aka attack on full range. Thing is: hydra and roach very explicitly have a melee attack, i played enough with SC2Editor back in the day to know that. Do burrowed lurkers? They don't have a melee attack. They just have a different attack animation when in melee range.
This is the rigorous form of what i am implying. Thanks.
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On November 02 2019 12:13 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:00 digmouse wrote:On November 02 2019 11:58 Zambrah wrote:
What does Serral even do to win from here 10+ vipers, other than that any charge is a highway to hell. Even vipers aren't enough. Since hydra/lurkers support vipers so much better than all the melee units that don't shoot up that Serral had. Nah, 10+ vipers would give him a small shot since to be honest Reynor's supporting cast for vipers lacked, it was literally mass lurker. But only 3 with 2 blinding clouds total? Not a chance. Sure but the opponent's vipers just yoink yours to kill them with hydras and you can't do the same. If you manage to throw enough blinding clouds to disable most of lurkers, you have a chance. If you don't, RIP, vipers own fate is irrelevant. It doesn't disable though, just shorten the range. Which doesn't matter against melee units, the lurkers attack anyway at full range if you actually commit into it (just a little later) Are you sure you are not confusing it with Dark Swarm? I do know that roach/hydra can use their melee attack in blinding cloud, and i do not have client on hand right now to test it. Well you just said it, hydra/roach attack under blinding clowd. So lurkers would as well on melee range, but their spike attack would still travel all the way aka attack on full range. Thing is: hydra and roach very explicitly have a melee attack, i played enough with SC2Editor back in the day to know that. Do burrowed lurkers?
No, but what blinding cloud does is reduce the range of units under it to melee (1?), hydras and roaches simply have another animation for it. Though i am not sure how upgrades work there tbh, might count melee upgrades for these two?
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On November 02 2019 12:13 Lazzarus wrote:I am devastated - it's 3 a.m. and the only reason I'm pulling an all-nighter is Serral
Serral always puts out a strong performance, but even he can't win everything. I'm satisfied with what he put out today. If he continues performing at this level, more championships are assured. Unfortunately, single elimination is a stupid format and sometimes luck kicks you in the groin.
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Well that was a different cannon rush. Classic's really far behind now.
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On November 02 2019 12:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2019 12:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 02 2019 12:04 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:02 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 02 2019 12:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 02 2019 12:00 digmouse wrote:
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10+ vipers, other than that any charge is a highway to hell. Even vipers aren't enough. Since hydra/lurkers support vipers so much better than all the melee units that don't shoot up that Serral had. Nah, 10+ vipers would give him a small shot since to be honest Reynor's supporting cast for vipers lacked, it was literally mass lurker. But only 3 with 2 blinding clouds total? Not a chance. Sure but the opponent's vipers just yoink yours to kill them with hydras and you can't do the same. If you manage to throw enough blinding clouds to disable most of lurkers, you have a chance. If you don't, RIP, vipers own fate is irrelevant. It doesn't disable though, just shorten the range. Which doesn't matter against melee units, the lurkers attack anyway at full range if you actually commit into it (just a little later) Are you sure you are not confusing it with Dark Swarm? I do know that roach/hydra can use their melee attack in blinding cloud, and i do not have client on hand right now to test it. Well you just said it, hydra/roach attack under blinding clowd. So lurkers would as well on melee range, but their spike attack would still travel all the way aka attack on full range. Thing is: hydra and roach very explicitly have a melee attack, i played enough with SC2Editor back in the day to know that. Do burrowed lurkers? No, but what blinding cloud does is reduce the range of units under it to melee (1?), hydras and roaches simply have another animation for it. Though i am not sure how upgrades work there tbh, might count melee upgrades for these two?
They don't. If they ever did, it was in early pre-release WoL versions and the only thing left behind from those times is the animation.
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