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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
September 08 2019 18:55 GMT
#301
On September 09 2019 03:53 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:50 Penev wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:45 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:41 Fango wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:37 Elentos wrote:
Serral should be forced to play on custom maps where nydus is its Heart of the Swarm version.

Honestly which how popular nydus is now and how much zerg's realise it's potential, I think if we revert to HotS version we would still see it a lot from guys like Serral

Realize its potential? The worm used to cost twice as much minerals and gas.

Nah, the real deal is unload speed.

I feel like nydus would already be so much more reasonable if you could only have 1 active worm per network. So if you have a worm in your opponent's natural you have to wait till it dies to plop one in another base, or invest in a 2nd network structure.

agreed but I would like to see an headbutt AND fart ability added to the 2 ends


How do you envision that fart ability working exactly? Like a mix of fungal and blinding cloud maybe?

so like wet farts you're imagining, I like how you think

sure
I Protoss winner, could it be?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 18:55:54
September 08 2019 18:55 GMT
#302
On September 09 2019 03:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:52 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:48 Elentos wrote:
A top 4 in WCS that represents the actual top 4 of WCS, look at that.


Yeah, it's pretty clear who the best foreigners are, that'll be good for blizzcon. A shame that Korea won't be sending their best 8 too.

If we took everyone's most recent form soO might be the worst player to ever play at the WCS Global Finals.


I am pretty sure Lilbow and his "I practise for lotv" still takes the cake.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
September 08 2019 18:56 GMT
#303
On September 09 2019 03:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:52 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:48 Elentos wrote:
A top 4 in WCS that represents the actual top 4 of WCS, look at that.


Yeah, it's pretty clear who the best foreigners are, that'll be good for blizzcon. A shame that Korea won't be sending their best 8 too.

If we took everyone's most recent form soO might be the worst player to ever play at the WCS Global Finals.


It's just sad to see soO win a championship. Clearly can't handle the success, needs to experience excruciating defeat to stay motivated.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 18:58:44
September 08 2019 18:56 GMT
#304
On September 09 2019 03:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:47 Pr0wler wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:38 DBooN wrote:
SC2 started at the end of WoL?

By the end of WoL, you mean like 2+ years of it, I guess.

2+ years? You mean, you think brood lord infestor was the composition prefered by FruitDealer?

On the top of my head, I still remember Kiwikaki-Stephano from IPL3 2011 which was October 2011 and at this point it was pretty popular strategy. So ~2 years is fair assessment I think. For sure its for the most part of WoL(which is what I meant with my original post).
Fruitdealer won in mid 2010.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
September 08 2019 18:57 GMT
#305
On September 09 2019 03:55 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:54 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:52 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:48 Elentos wrote:
A top 4 in WCS that represents the actual top 4 of WCS, look at that.


Yeah, it's pretty clear who the best foreigners are, that'll be good for blizzcon. A shame that Korea won't be sending their best 8 too.

If we took everyone's most recent form soO might be the worst player to ever play at the WCS Global Finals.


I am pretty sure Lilbow and his "I practise for lotv" still takes the cake.

That's just hilariously ironic in hindsight simply because he got into that whole fight with TLO and then in the first big LotV tournament lost to TLO because he tried to play LotV like it was still HotS.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 08 2019 18:57 GMT
#306
was wondering how Lilbow was doing and he won more than 100k in overwatch in 2019 :O
Neosteel Enthusiast
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9915 Posts
September 08 2019 18:57 GMT
#307
On September 09 2019 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
Worth reminding ppl the big problem with WoL BL-Infestor is how it helped boost the performance of a lot of mid-low level players, not just the top guys like Stephano or Leenock. Obviously it's frustrating to watch Serral wipe a top foreign Terran like HeroMarine in such a manner, but you're not giving WoL era BL-Infestor enough credit for being filthy when you compare the two


Someone should make a thread about this
RIP Meatloaf <3
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
September 08 2019 18:57 GMT
#308
On September 09 2019 03:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:50 Penev wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:45 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:41 Fango wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:37 Elentos wrote:
Serral should be forced to play on custom maps where nydus is its Heart of the Swarm version.

Honestly which how popular nydus is now and how much zerg's realise it's potential, I think if we revert to HotS version we would still see it a lot from guys like Serral

Realize its potential? The worm used to cost twice as much minerals and gas.

Nah, the real deal is unload speed.

I feel like nydus would already be so much more reasonable if you could only have 1 active worm per network. So if you have a worm in your opponent's natural you have to wait till it dies to plop one in another base, or invest in a 2nd network structure.

agreed but I would like to see an headbutt AND fart ability added to the 2 ends


How do you envision that fart ability working exactly? Like a mix of fungal and blinding cloud maybe?

Attacks that cause incinerations (i. e. hellions, colossi) will blow the fart up, which is the equivalent to a nuke.


Wow, great idea. Such sophisticated gameplay too.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33650 Posts
September 08 2019 18:59 GMT
#309
On September 09 2019 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
was wondering how Lilbow was doing and he won more than 100k in overwatch in 2019 :O


well now that he's rich it makes it more okay to make fun of him
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
September 08 2019 19:00 GMT
#310
On September 09 2019 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
Worth reminding ppl the big problem with WoL BL-Infestor is how it helped boost the performance of a lot of mid-low level players, not just the top guys like Stephano or Leenock. Obviously it's frustrating to watch Serral wipe a top foreign Terran like HeroMarine in such a manner, but you're not giving WoL era BL-Infestor enough credit for being filthy when you compare the two

We'll have this chat again when RagnaroK wins GSL

No but seriously nydus is more annoying than BL/infestor. It hurts your build up before the late game so much. It also stops you from doing timings before BLs because you don't want to sack your bases. And then there's the combo potential with swarm hosts too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 08 2019 19:01 GMT
#311
On September 09 2019 03:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:52 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:48 Elentos wrote:
A top 4 in WCS that represents the actual top 4 of WCS, look at that.


Yeah, it's pretty clear who the best foreigners are, that'll be good for blizzcon. A shame that Korea won't be sending their best 8 too.

If we took everyone's most recent form soO might be the worst player to ever play at the WCS Global Finals.

I hope he at least practices for blizzcon. It looks like he can't be bothered to play anymore, whether he's just satisfied with winning IEM or given up completely is unknown.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 08 2019 19:02 GMT
#312
On September 09 2019 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
was wondering how Lilbow was doing and he won more than 100k in overwatch in 2019 :O

Didn't he quit LotV for Heroes of the storm or am I thinking of someone else?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
September 08 2019 19:02 GMT
#313
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
September 08 2019 19:03 GMT
#314
On September 09 2019 04:02 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
was wondering how Lilbow was doing and he won more than 100k in overwatch in 2019 :O

Didn't he quit LotV for Heroes of the storm or am I thinking of someone else?

Heroes already wasn't as trendy anymore, people started leaving for Overwatch.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
September 08 2019 19:03 GMT
#315
On September 09 2019 03:57 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:55 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:50 Penev wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:45 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:41 Fango wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:37 Elentos wrote:
Serral should be forced to play on custom maps where nydus is its Heart of the Swarm version.

Honestly which how popular nydus is now and how much zerg's realise it's potential, I think if we revert to HotS version we would still see it a lot from guys like Serral

Realize its potential? The worm used to cost twice as much minerals and gas.

Nah, the real deal is unload speed.

I feel like nydus would already be so much more reasonable if you could only have 1 active worm per network. So if you have a worm in your opponent's natural you have to wait till it dies to plop one in another base, or invest in a 2nd network structure.

agreed but I would like to see an headbutt AND fart ability added to the 2 ends


How do you envision that fart ability working exactly? Like a mix of fungal and blinding cloud maybe?

Attacks that cause incinerations (i. e. hellions, colossi) will blow the fart up, which is the equivalent to a nuke.


Wow, great idea. Such sophisticated gameplay too.

the initial building should be the head though so you can build asses in the enemy bases for some devastating fart-harass
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 08 2019 19:04 GMT
#316
On September 09 2019 04:02 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
was wondering how Lilbow was doing and he won more than 100k in overwatch in 2019 :O

Didn't he quit LotV for Heroes of the storm or am I thinking of someone else?

Think he went straight Overwatch, Vortix and Lucifron went to HotS but that was earlier
Neosteel Enthusiast
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria870 Posts
September 08 2019 19:05 GMT
#317
Special vs Reynor. Let the better Italian win :D
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 08 2019 19:05 GMT
#318
On September 09 2019 04:02 sneakyfox wrote:
https://twitter.com/mouzHeroMarine/status/1170772103995568131


For some reason this tweet rubs me the wrong way. It's almost as if he does not acknowledge that it was his play that lost him at least 1 of the games.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
September 08 2019 19:05 GMT
#319
On September 09 2019 04:03 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:57 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:55 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:50 Penev wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:45 Elentos wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:41 Fango wrote:
On September 09 2019 03:37 Elentos wrote:
Serral should be forced to play on custom maps where nydus is its Heart of the Swarm version.

Honestly which how popular nydus is now and how much zerg's realise it's potential, I think if we revert to HotS version we would still see it a lot from guys like Serral

Realize its potential? The worm used to cost twice as much minerals and gas.

Nah, the real deal is unload speed.

I feel like nydus would already be so much more reasonable if you could only have 1 active worm per network. So if you have a worm in your opponent's natural you have to wait till it dies to plop one in another base, or invest in a 2nd network structure.

agreed but I would like to see an headbutt AND fart ability added to the 2 ends


How do you envision that fart ability working exactly? Like a mix of fungal and blinding cloud maybe?

Attacks that cause incinerations (i. e. hellions, colossi) will blow the fart up, which is the equivalent to a nuke.


Wow, great idea. Such sophisticated gameplay too.

the initial building should be the head though so you can build asses in the enemy bases for some devastating fart-harass

It's also more logical because things you ingest are more likely to go out the rear as opposed to the current nydus which ingests through its rear.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1978 Posts
September 08 2019 19:06 GMT
#320
On September 09 2019 03:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
Worth reminding ppl the big problem with WoL BL-Infestor is how it helped boost the performance of a lot of mid-low level players, not just the top guys like Stephano or Leenock. Obviously it's frustrating to watch Serral wipe a top foreign Terran like HeroMarine in such a manner, but you're not giving WoL era BL-Infestor enough credit for being filthy when you compare the two


Someone should make a thread about this


It is true that Bl/Infestor/Corruptor/Viper does not help at every professional level, and terran can still severely outplay worse zergs in LOTV.

However, if Broodlords destroy everything Terran on the ground (including supposed counters like Thors and Ghosts) and Corruptors destroy everything in the air for cost (including BCs) while Infestors and Vipers add situational tech, what does Terran really do? It is a bit silly tbh.

Zerg should be the aggro race, tbh, I have no problem with roach maxes, ravager rushes, bane busts and whatnot.
Buff the siegetank
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