EPT[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group A - Page 11
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Elentos
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:03 Elentos wrote: I seem to recall Korea being a relatively SH free zone. soO and Life weren't big SH players for starters. I don't think Soulkey dragged out GSLs anywhere near the same has he did that one Proleague match. Rogue and ByuL played super long game in their time tho, not necessarily with SH but against mech it took an eternity. | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:05 Nakajin wrote: Rogue and ByuL played super long game in their time tho, not necessarily with SH but against mech it took an eternity. I think ByuL mostly played those in playoffs. Also the longest group I could remember from the top of my head was the one that ended with Flash vs Curious and that one was shorter than today. | ||
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RatzBarcode
United States98 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:07 Elentos wrote: I think ByuL mostly played those in playoffs. Also the longest group I could remember from the top of my head was the one that ended with Flash vs Curious and that one was shorter than today. This has to be the longest, based on 4/5 series going the distance, plus half the games were like 25 min plus | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:10 RatzBarcode wrote: This has to be the longest, based on 4/5 series going the distance, plus half the games were like 25 min plus I wonder if I'm bored enough to do research on this. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Why is Keen going to the military now? He should have two or three years yet. Fantasy has already ended his service, it's weird that 2019 is going to be his last year in sc2. In any of case, with so many Terran leaving BW soon, he could be the one who inherits Flash's mantle. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:12 Elentos wrote: I wonder if I'm bored enough to do research on this. I am but I told myself that I should stop doing things like this. | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:13 Xain0n wrote: Keen ultimately played better, especially against Dark! He deserved to advance. Why is Keen going to the military now? He should have two or three years yet. Fantasy has already ended his service, it's weird that 2019 is going to be his last year in sc2. In any of case, with so many Terran leaving BW soon, he could be the one who inherits Flash's mantle. Well in the translator's words "When delaying my military service I made some mistakes so I'm just waiting to start my mandatory service now" | ||
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation400 Posts
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Slydie
1927 Posts
On August 28 2019 23:02 SamirDuran wrote: You should watch the games. Both games looked like fantasy is winning. Game 2 he had a huge lead but wants to go to late game anyways and dies. And it's sad I don't even think it was that much of a throw. He pushed a bit late, but it was still early enough for broodlords not to be out yet and I give to Dark that the ravager hold was pretty incredible. The morale is to never EVER let Dark get 80 drones. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
GSL Audience GSL Dark interview GL marauder on a diet GSL dubstep GSL Keen interview | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:00 SamirDuran wrote: sad day for Fantasy fans like me. welp time to work... I think this will be his last year. Rumors is that he'll return to BW by December this year. Where did you hear that rumour? As sad as that would be for StarCraft 2, I'd love to have my hero back to BW <3 | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:13 Xain0n wrote: Keen ultimately played better, especially against Dark! He deserved to advance. Why is Keen going to the military now? He should have two or three years yet. Fantasy has already ended his service, it's weird that 2019 is going to be his last year in sc2. In any of case, with so many Terran leaving BW soon, he could be the one who inherits Flash's mantle. The good protoss' too: Stats, Classic, Zest and sOs(?) all have to go to military service | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 29 2019 02:39 AzAlexZ wrote: The good protoss' too: Stats, Classic, Zest and sOs(?) all have to go to military service Not sOs but herO; Gumiho and soO as well, just like aLive, TRUE, LosirA. All of them were born in 1992(MC and Classic in 1991), I don't know when they will have to go, most likely next year. | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On August 29 2019 00:13 Nakajin wrote: I am but I told myself that I should stop doing things like this. I went through 200 Code S groups and the one today was the longest of them with a 15 minute 30 second lead. That's the maximum amount of work I'm willing to invest in this question. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26181 Posts
On August 28 2019 22:38 Qikz wrote: I don't understand how on earth you're supposed to beat the game design of the broodlord. I'm a SCR/BW guy mainly but I've been a fantasy fan for years and watched those games and it seems unlike the guardian there's no counter play at all to the broodlord. If you try and engage you can never get away with your army as the broodlings wrap around everything and thors are slow as hell and you can't purely use vikings due to the fact parasitic bomb and fungal exist as spells and everything by design super hard clumps. Watching those 2 games I'm not sure what you're even meant to do. People complain more about the Infestor part of the combination, really I personally find the broods are the problem when they get to high numbers, and it just gets exponentionally worse. 1. They block pathing. 2. They force DPS off them their broodlings tank for them. 3. Their counters theoretically are other air units, but these prioritise corrupters by default if you’re A-moving. 4. They force friendly fire damage from tanks. To theoretically perfectly engage Broods you have to manually gauge what units are within range of hitting a brood lord and manually target those to do so. If other units are not they need to be A-moved so to clear broodlings and not waste DPS wandering around being blocked by broodlings and not firing. Not to mention terrain. Not to mention of engagements spread more than one screen of visual gauging. Which when you hit maxed, with static D support. Jesus H Christ. People talk about ‘free units’ as if it’s inherently a terrible thing, I really have no issue with it. They reset targeting priorities every single volley by virtue of their mechanics. They’re both a relatively A-move composition, but along with tank lines are also an anti-A move composition at the same time, which to me is the problem. By that I mean their mechanics actually mess with A-moving too. Which despite being a pejorative term you kind of need to work well sometimes. If I spot an opening in TvT where I have an advantage, in a spread engagement I can split my marines or whatever and A-move through the lines, over a multi screen engagement. I can’t control both armies simultaneously, but I can make a judgement call, I know what behaviour will generally be followed in the segment I A-move and actively control the other. With broods, whatever is off screen is a lottery. Will it be blocked by broodlings, will it spaz out? Who the fuck knows? I’m not a great player by any stretch, also not terrible. When I did play T my best matchup was vP, I was decent against ling/bling/muta. Which is micro intensive sure, but I know what’s going to happen. It’s down to my splits, my arcs, my storm dodges and my kiting or whatever, that if I fuck up it may feel difficult sure but it’s my bads. With engaging broods it’s like no, literally any unit I’m not directly controlling is not doing what I would actually want it to be doing, or would predict it to be doing. I’m getting blocked, friendly fired, my vikings prioritise corrupters if left to their own devices etc. As to what I’d change, well I’m an idiot I anyway so who cares, but really who cares? By change I mean experiment with, maybe bolster other things to compensate or whatever. 1. If they hit hard with their first attack, but broodlings were a bit less potent, be more like Guardians in that way. 2. If the opposite were true, so their initial attack was weaker so their sniping was weaker but their broodlings still did their thing. 3. If Broodlings didn’t benefit from melee upgrades but instead from ranged attack or flier attacks. They could still be potent as now, but the ease of transition would be lessened somewhat and give more windows for opposing races. Rant aside Dark is a phenomenal player anyway who would prosper with whatever tools were in his available set, so absolutely not taking away from his play at all. | ||
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
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