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[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group A - Page 12

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RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
August 29 2019 01:23 GMT
#221
On August 29 2019 04:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2019 00:13 Nakajin wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:12 Elentos wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:10 RatzBarcode wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:07 Elentos wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:05 Nakajin wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:03 Elentos wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:57 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:55 Elentos wrote:
So is this the longest GSL group ever yet

the question on everybody's mind

Hard to imagine with Swarm Hosts being a thing in HotS though.

I seem to recall Korea being a relatively SH free zone. soO and Life weren't big SH players for starters. I don't think Soulkey dragged out GSLs anywhere near the same has he did that one Proleague match.


Rogue and ByuL played super long game in their time tho, not necessarily with SH but against mech it took an eternity.

I think ByuL mostly played those in playoffs.

Also the longest group I could remember from the top of my head was the one that ended with Flash vs Curious and that one was shorter than today.


This has to be the longest, based on 4/5 series going the distance, plus half the games were like 25 min plus

I wonder if I'm bored enough to do research on this.


I am but I told myself that I should stop doing things like this.

I went through 200 Code S groups and the one today was the longest of them with a 15 minute 30 second lead.

That's the maximum amount of work I'm willing to invest in this question.


that's impressive! how'd you calculate and find the info? what day was second?
AlexZhang1012
Profile Joined June 2019
63 Posts
August 29 2019 01:41 GMT
#222
Fantasy is trying to focus on the Chinese team championship by sacrificing GSL... Kidding though. I'd really like to see him play better.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-29 03:32:38
August 29 2019 03:26 GMT
#223
On August 29 2019 04:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2019 00:13 Nakajin wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:12 Elentos wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:10 RatzBarcode wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:07 Elentos wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:05 Nakajin wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:03 Elentos wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:57 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:55 Elentos wrote:
So is this the longest GSL group ever yet

the question on everybody's mind

Hard to imagine with Swarm Hosts being a thing in HotS though.

I seem to recall Korea being a relatively SH free zone. soO and Life weren't big SH players for starters. I don't think Soulkey dragged out GSLs anywhere near the same has he did that one Proleague match.


Rogue and ByuL played super long game in their time tho, not necessarily with SH but against mech it took an eternity.

I think ByuL mostly played those in playoffs.

Also the longest group I could remember from the top of my head was the one that ended with Flash vs Curious and that one was shorter than today.


This has to be the longest, based on 4/5 series going the distance, plus half the games were like 25 min plus

I wonder if I'm bored enough to do research on this.


I am but I told myself that I should stop doing things like this.

I went through 200 Code S groups and the one today was the longest of them with a 15 minute 30 second lead.

That's the maximum amount of work I'm willing to invest in this question.


Just 200? Quitter......
+ Show Spoiler +
JK well done, we have a new nugget of knowledge about SC
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
August 29 2019 06:28 GMT
#224
I just put the VOD lengths from YouTube in an Excel sheet. Had to guesstimate a few values because of missing VOD or upload with ads and pre-show timers. I stopped after 200 cause the groups from 2012-2014 had split VODs for every map and I'm lazy.

2nd longest was the infamous Inno-Flash-Curious-Pigbaby group from 2015. 3rd IIRC was the group where Scarlett got nuked out of GSL
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
August 29 2019 07:28 GMT
#225
Elentos' passion is truly unrivaled
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7427 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-29 11:30:48
August 29 2019 11:29 GMT
#226
Theorycrafting vs BL/ Corrupter:

Theory 1:
Has anyone ever tried going mass Lib + AA Missile vs the Corruptor clump?
With max upgrades a Lib does 8 x 2 AoE dmg. A corruptor has 5 armor and 200 HP. With AA missile 2 armor.
This means one would need 17 Libs to oneshot a clump of Corruptors.
Chances are you get fungaled though. You NEED Ghosts for this
Terran has air attack upgrades +3 usually much earlier than zerg has air armor upgrades.

Theory 2:
BC's + Thor
Yamato the BL's then retreat behind the Thors
Very expensive, long build time, different attack upgrades.
Chances are you get Neuraled. Again you NEED Ghosts
Most Terrans I watch Yamato the Corruptor. Why not go for BL's? Risk is marginally higher, but reward is way higher IMO

Done this at work, so don't be to harsh on me
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19394 Posts
August 29 2019 12:45 GMT
#227
On August 29 2019 20:29 Harris1st wrote:
Theorycrafting vs BL/ Corrupter:

Theory 1:
Has anyone ever tried going mass Lib + AA Missile vs the Corruptor clump?
With max upgrades a Lib does 8 x 2 AoE dmg. A corruptor has 5 armor and 200 HP. With AA missile 2 armor.
This means one would need 17 Libs to oneshot a clump of Corruptors.
Chances are you get fungaled though. You NEED Ghosts for this
Terran has air attack upgrades +3 usually much earlier than zerg has air armor upgrades.

Theory 2:
BC's + Thor
Yamato the BL's then retreat behind the Thors
Very expensive, long build time, different attack upgrades.
Chances are you get Neuraled. Again you NEED Ghosts
Most Terrans I watch Yamato the Corruptor. Why not go for BL's? Risk is marginally higher, but reward is way higher IMO

Done this at work, so don't be to harsh on me

Any mass air strategy dies with parasitic bomb. Your theories are reasonable of an air army couldn't in one motion be:
1. fungaled to stop retreat and unit splitting
2. parasitic bombed on fungaled units
3. more fungals, bombs, infested terrans, corrupters

The problem is the cost effectiveness of the AOE spells on the air units too. Even if you do some damage and retreat with 100% of your army, chances are most of your units are less then half health and need to be repaired. On the other end, the longer zerg turtles the more likely the regenerate their army without costing any resources. And they turtle hard core over spores which is a huge deterrent for air units. I think some variation of heavy thors is the answer though.
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
August 29 2019 14:00 GMT
#228
On August 29 2019 00:13 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2019 00:12 Elentos wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:10 RatzBarcode wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:07 Elentos wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:05 Nakajin wrote:
On August 29 2019 00:03 Elentos wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:57 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2019 23:55 Elentos wrote:
So is this the longest GSL group ever yet

the question on everybody's mind

Hard to imagine with Swarm Hosts being a thing in HotS though.

I seem to recall Korea being a relatively SH free zone. soO and Life weren't big SH players for starters. I don't think Soulkey dragged out GSLs anywhere near the same has he did that one Proleague match.


Rogue and ByuL played super long game in their time tho, not necessarily with SH but against mech it took an eternity.

I think ByuL mostly played those in playoffs.

Also the longest group I could remember from the top of my head was the one that ended with Flash vs Curious and that one was shorter than today.


This has to be the longest, based on 4/5 series going the distance, plus half the games were like 25 min plus

I wonder if I'm bored enough to do research on this.


I am but I told myself that I should stop doing things like this.


I'm so glade to know I am not the only one to do things like that
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 29 2019 14:10 GMT
#229
This is the first time Keen has made it to the ro8 since 2011.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
August 30 2019 15:34 GMT
#230
daaaamn so i am so sad about Fanta T_T he played really good and was so close >< i hope he continue playing
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 31 2019 01:55 GMT
#231
Juan,fantasy noooo
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