I went through 200 Code S groups and the one today was the longest of them with a 15 minute 30 second lead.

That's the maximum amount of work I'm willing to invest in this question.

that's impressive! how'd you calculate and find the info? what day was second?

AlexZhang1012

63 Posts

August 29 2019 01:41 GMT

#222

Fantasy is trying to focus on the Chinese team championship by sacrificing GSL... Kidding though. I'd really like to see him play better.

Nakajin

Canada8989 Posts

August 29 2019 03:26 GMT

#223

On August 29 2019 04:56 Elentos wrote:

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I went through 200 Code S groups and the one today was the longest of them with a 15 minute 30 second lead.

That's the maximum amount of work I'm willing to invest in this question.

Just 200? Quitter......
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JK well done, we have a new nugget of knowledge about SC

Elentos

55566 Posts

August 29 2019 06:28 GMT

#224

I just put the VOD lengths from YouTube in an Excel sheet. Had to guesstimate a few values because of missing VOD or upload with ads and pre-show timers. I stopped after 200 cause the groups from 2012-2014 had split VODs for every map and I'm lazy.

2nd longest was the infamous Inno-Flash-Curious-Pigbaby group from 2015. 3rd IIRC was the group where Scarlett got nuked out of GSL

Durnuu

13322 Posts

August 29 2019 07:28 GMT

#225

Elentos' passion is truly unrivaled

Harris1st

Germany7104 Posts

August 29 2019 11:29 GMT

#226

Theorycrafting vs BL/ Corrupter:

Theory 1:
Has anyone ever tried going mass Lib + AA Missile vs the Corruptor clump?
With max upgrades a Lib does 8 x 2 AoE dmg. A corruptor has 5 armor and 200 HP. With AA missile 2 armor.
This means one would need 17 Libs to oneshot a clump of Corruptors.
Chances are you get fungaled though. You NEED Ghosts for this
Terran has air attack upgrades +3 usually much earlier than zerg has air armor upgrades.

Theory 2:
BC's + Thor
Yamato the BL's then retreat behind the Thors
Very expensive, long build time, different attack upgrades.
Chances are you get Neuraled. Again you NEED Ghosts
Most Terrans I watch Yamato the Corruptor. Why not go for BL's? Risk is marginally higher, but reward is way higher IMO

Done this at work, so don't be to harsh on me

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19307 Posts

August 29 2019 12:45 GMT

#227

On August 29 2019 20:29 Harris1st wrote:
Theorycrafting vs BL/ Corrupter:

Theory 1:
Has anyone ever tried going mass Lib + AA Missile vs the Corruptor clump?
With max upgrades a Lib does 8 x 2 AoE dmg. A corruptor has 5 armor and 200 HP. With AA missile 2 armor.
This means one would need 17 Libs to oneshot a clump of Corruptors.
Chances are you get fungaled though. You NEED Ghosts for this
Terran has air attack upgrades +3 usually much earlier than zerg has air armor upgrades.

Theory 2:
BC's + Thor
Yamato the BL's then retreat behind the Thors
Very expensive, long build time, different attack upgrades.
Chances are you get Neuraled. Again you NEED Ghosts
Most Terrans I watch Yamato the Corruptor. Why not go for BL's? Risk is marginally higher, but reward is way higher IMO

Done this at work, so don't be to harsh on me

Any mass air strategy dies with parasitic bomb. Your theories are reasonable of an air army couldn't in one motion be:
1. fungaled to stop retreat and unit splitting
2. parasitic bombed on fungaled units
3. more fungals, bombs, infested terrans, corrupters

The problem is the cost effectiveness of the AOE spells on the air units too. Even if you do some damage and retreat with 100% of your army, chances are most of your units are less then half health and need to be repaired. On the other end, the longer zerg turtles the more likely the regenerate their army without costing any resources. And they turtle hard core over spores which is a huge deterrent for air units. I think some variation of heavy thors is the answer though.