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[GSL 2019] GSL vs. The World - Day 2 - Page 29
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2465 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 16 2019 23:03 skdsk wrote: Is protoss still to op? 5 protoss, 4 advanced (1protoss died in pvp), i honestly havent seen anything spectacular from these protoss players, they just seem to win versus terrans pretty easily without much of an issue. We know there gonna be buff to stim and emp, but that seems more of a buff in tvz, which isnt really needed change, while tvp, is very much protoss favored. So this buff terran and nerf to zerg, might screw up balance in tvz, yet not even have much impact in tvp. Protoss definitely is not op:one advanced from PvP, Maru playing subpar was the problem; didn't you see the new patch notes? Warp Prism and recall are getting nerfed soon. | ||
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
stats advanced over maru, because maru didn't care trap advanced over heromarine, i dont even need to comment this classic advancing over fantasy I just can't comprehend how anyone that watched these series can easily say "protoss op" because this or that Stats won because he made less mistakes than Maru AND ACTUALLY CAME FUCKING PREPARED. Trap won because he made less mistakes than Heromarine Classic won because he made less mistakes than Fantasy | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16085 Posts
On August 16 2019 23:36 DieuCure wrote: Yes, we can just conclude that the protoss players as a whole make fewer mistakes than terran players for over a year, seems legit. and when Maru loses it's because he didn't care | ||
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skdsk
138 Posts
On August 16 2019 23:27 NotSoHappy wrote: lol @ everyone saying protoss op, when stats advanced over maru, because maru didn't care trap advanced over heromarine, i dont even need to comment this classic advancing over fantasy I just can't comprehend how anyone that watched these series can easily say "protoss op" because this or that Stats won because he made less mistakes than Maru AND ACTUALLY CAME FUCKING PREPARED. Trap won because he made less mistakes than Heromarine Classic won because he made less mistakes than Fantasy Well protoss is very forgiving in tvp, right now, terran cant be greedy or die to some obscure protoss 2base allin, basically terran is forced to go 1-1-1 into 3-1-1 every game, this have been already talked about to death, even blizz them self talked about it, none of changes to protoss or terran really adresses this issue (stim to buff will effect tvz far more), im not gonna whine about it, but these pvt's looked like master vs diamond, were master players "macros up" and goes to kill the diamond player with a push simply because he has more stuff. This obvs doesnt really effect lower level play since, each player does 100mistakes each game, but at highest level of play Maru(best terran in world)/HM(best eu terran)/Fantasy(bw champion/gsl code s top16) are all fantastic players, yet you claim they are bad? and look like diamond player vs master. Yet these same players simply doesnt have same issues they have in tvp in tvz. Maru destroyes best zergs and while HM isnt as dominant he always does decently vs Serral, even taking some series from him. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On August 16 2019 23:49 Charoisaur wrote: and when Maru loses it's because he didn't care It's funny because there are times where I think this has been kinda true, but I don't think this is one of them. I have no opinion about whether or not protoss is OP atm, and I also feel that Classic legit played better than Fantasy, but I will say that those kinds of adept strats and tempest+forward shield battery strats often just feel bad to watch. As a spectator, my feeling is, "This is so fucking stupid." | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On August 17 2019 00:08 Shellshock wrote: cant believe Serral dropped a map to TY. seriously slumping wait then for tomorrow when he gets rekt by Trap | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2661 Posts
On August 16 2019 23:27 NotSoHappy wrote: lol @ everyone saying protoss op, when stats advanced over maru, because maru didn't care trap advanced over heromarine, i dont even need to comment this classic advancing over fantasy I just can't comprehend how anyone that watched these series can easily say "protoss op" because this or that Stats won because he made less mistakes than Maru AND ACTUALLY CAME FUCKING PREPARED. Trap won because he made less mistakes than Heromarine Classic won because he made less mistakes than Fantasy I mean you could say that of 1 tournament. Maybeeee even 2. But this year 4, fucking 4 premier tournaments have been protoss fests (GSL super tournament, Code S season 2, IEM Katowice, ok maybe this less protoss fest than others, and now GSL vs the world) surely even the most adamant protoss whiners have to admit SOMETHING its not right. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
On August 16 2019 23:49 Charoisaur wrote: and when Maru loses it's because he didn't care Had an off day or whatever. The difference between him destroying Dear and Trap in GSL and how he played on the same patch yesterday vs Stats is night and day. I don’t think it’s fair to say he didn’t care though, could be any number of reasons there. At Super Tournament against the same opponent yeah he ultimately lost but it was one of the series of the year and Maru had obviously prepped damn hard for it. Just a disappointing series from a relatively neutral perspective here, argh. | ||
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On August 17 2019 00:39 Wombat_NI wrote: Had an off day or whatever. The difference between him destroying Dear and Trap in GSL and how he played on the same patch yesterday vs Stats is night and day. I don’t think it’s fair to say he didn’t care though, could be any number of reasons there. At Super Tournament against the same opponent yeah he ultimately lost but it was one of the series of the year and Maru had obviously prepped damn hard for it. Just a disappointing series from a relatively neutral perspective here, argh. There's a chance Maru might actually have been a little nervous about facing Stats. I mean he's knocked Maru out of two other events in the past year and he may have felt after Super Tournament that he'd brought his best against Stats and still lost. That combined with his seeming inability to perform at a weekender and that's potentially a pretty big monkey on his back. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Poopi
France13011 Posts
On August 17 2019 00:34 Lexender wrote: I mean you could say that of 1 tournament. Maybeeee even 2. But this year 4, fucking 4 premier tournaments have been protoss fests (GSL super tournament, Code S season 2, IEM Katowice, ok maybe this less protoss fest than others, and now GSL vs the world) surely even the most adamant protoss whiners have to admit SOMETHING its not right. Protoss pros acknowledge it on Twitter but it’s still kinda sad to see. I was banned 3 months after making the issue public on a TL thread and even after so much time the situation hasn’t been addressed. At least Blizzard try something with the new patch, we’ll see how manageable the situation becomes. Special winning today was very cool, Reynor will probably progress and peak at 20-21yo like Serral / HeRoMaRinE. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
On August 17 2019 02:44 Poopi wrote: Protoss pros acknowledge it on Twitter but it’s still kinda sad to see. I was banned 3 months after making the issue public on a TL thread and even after so much time the situation hasn’t been addressed. At least Blizzard try something with the new patch, we’ll see how manageable the situation becomes. Special winning today was very cool, Reynor will probably progress and peak at 20-21yo like Serral / HeRoMaRinE. How manageable do you want it to be for this specific tournament? Between the seeds, form and the votes Protoss have ended up with their contingent, they’ve ended up with both the 3 best Protoss players this year, who also happen to currently be in form as well. soO is really struggling for form, Rogue and Solar’s upward trajectory of late probably came too late for a big vote push to get them in. Maru and TY got rough draws, although the former didn’t really look in top shape, Fantasy played well bar some mistakes but Classic is a tier above at present. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
 Blizzcon 3/4 then. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
GSL Trap interview GSL reynor cheer GSL trap god cheer GSL Audience / you just activated my trap card GSL Special interview GSL Audience juanito use the power of flavor crystals GSL cheer fantasy will dominate GSL vs the world cheer sign GSL Audience GSL Classic interview | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On another note, Maru played like he didn't give a fuck. Those games were abysmal compared to his matches from Code S or the first super tournament | ||
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skdsk
138 Posts
On August 17 2019 03:32 Fango wrote: I agree that protoss playes have just been better for the past couple years. Nothing to do with protoss having a million more options and being much more forgiving, or simply requiring less effort to win with. On another note, Maru played like he didn't give a fuck. Those games were abysmal compared to his matches from Code S or the first super tournament It all comes down to the fact terran needs 1-1-1 to be able to deal with varity of toss openings, which means terran doesnt really have the power to "end" the game other that have some harrasing options, which in turn lets protoss get almost zerg timing expo. All the problem begins by the fact terran bio needs stim and medivacs to be able to move around on map. Faster stim might enable more map control for terran player, but you still need medivacs. Protoss can stay on gateway tech simply because, there units heal up themselfs. I dont know what else can be changed, but maybe this change is in the right direction, tho i still feel it will negatively effect tvz and we will see bunch of disgusting mm(with stim)hellbats timings. | ||
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