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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 14 2019 21:19 GMT
#1261
ITALIA
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
July 14 2019 21:29 GMT
#1262
On July 15 2019 06:19 GumBa wrote:
ITALIA


<3 <3 <3
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 14 2019 21:43 GMT
#1263
didnt lasagna boi get 4-0ed last time he met B-team ACE? I think they keep trading blows back and forth, next time I expect him to get crushed, tho I hope he wrecks again.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
July 14 2019 21:43 GMT
#1264
On July 15 2019 05:59 SamirDuran wrote:
A bit out of the topic here but why crank isn't casting this tournament for koreans?

Btw congrats reynor. Though i want a eu terran to win but i think it will be a while til we see one.


Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
July 14 2019 21:58 GMT
#1265
On July 15 2019 06:43 IshinShishi wrote:
didnt lasagna boi get 4-0ed last time he met B-team ACE? I think they keep trading blows back and forth, next time I expect him to get crushed, tho I hope he wrecks again.


Ok, sushi boi.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 14 2019 22:10 GMT
#1266
SERRAL BTFO
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
July 14 2019 22:25 GMT
#1267
Great tournament. It was really fun watching all the high level players.
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 22:45:55
July 14 2019 22:44 GMT
#1268
On July 15 2019 07:10 Shellshock wrote:
SERRAL BTFO

Uhh... not really.
why even
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 23:22:54
July 14 2019 23:22 GMT
#1269
Raynor has taken the clutchness from Serral at least for this run, a fair few games he should have been dead (especially vs Special on Kings Cove) but he turned it around. Excited to see how he will do vs Koreans.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 14 2019 23:39 GMT
#1270
On July 15 2019 07:10 Shellshock wrote:
SERRAL BTFO


I love Shellshock!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
July 15 2019 00:01 GMT
#1271
Always awesome watching Reynor! What a finals. I need to update my name to ReynorDagger soon.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 15 2019 00:09 GMT
#1272
serral ??? slump ????
i noticed dat dude barely played late games PvZ also
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
July 15 2019 00:11 GMT
#1273
The crazy thing is people act like Serral is regressing from losing to Reynor who is 17 but people forget Serral himself is only 21. Assuming neither of them stop playing and tournaments keep happening then they going to be duking it out for years to come
JD, need I say more? :D
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 15 2019 00:15 GMT
#1274
Can Serral and Reynor play super tournament 2 this year? It’s just 2 weekends, one to qualify and one to play.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 15 2019 00:31 GMT
#1275
On July 15 2019 09:11 LimeNade wrote:
The crazy thing is people act like Serral is regressing from losing to Reynor who is 17 but people forget Serral himself is only 21. Assuming neither of them stop playing and tournaments keep happening then they going to be duking it out for years to come

I think as we move along in Starcraft we have to reassess the age factor anyway. Players who are post 25 are still killing it in this game, in Warcraft 3 older players are still the big force.

I think we’re a bit stuck into thinking what is ‘peak’ age based on Brood War and preconceptions on when players are too old or whatever.

There’s zero reason why Starcraft players can’t physiologically keep up way later when you see Roger Federer beat Nadal and narrowly lose the Wimbledon final at 37
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 15 2019 00:44 GMT
#1276
On July 15 2019 09:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 09:11 LimeNade wrote:
The crazy thing is people act like Serral is regressing from losing to Reynor who is 17 but people forget Serral himself is only 21. Assuming neither of them stop playing and tournaments keep happening then they going to be duking it out for years to come

I think as we move along in Starcraft we have to reassess the age factor anyway. Players who are post 25 are still killing it in this game, in Warcraft 3 older players are still the big force.

I think we’re a bit stuck into thinking what is ‘peak’ age based on Brood War and preconceptions on when players are too old or whatever.

There’s zero reason why Starcraft players can’t physiologically keep up way later when you see Roger Federer beat Nadal and narrowly lose the Wimbledon final at 37


Sc2's age requirements surely are different than those of KeSpa era Brood War, that's true.

As for Wc3, the scene isn't currently too big and I suspect the situation is similar to what is happening with Brood War; when Reforged comes out, we'll see if the old pros(most of which are 30 or older right now) will still be able to dominate.

Tennis evidently allows its very top players to be competitive for much longer, there is no way Flash or Moon could keep winning being 37 years old.

ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 15 2019 01:40 GMT
#1277
On July 15 2019 09:44 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 09:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 15 2019 09:11 LimeNade wrote:
The crazy thing is people act like Serral is regressing from losing to Reynor who is 17 but people forget Serral himself is only 21. Assuming neither of them stop playing and tournaments keep happening then they going to be duking it out for years to come

I think as we move along in Starcraft we have to reassess the age factor anyway. Players who are post 25 are still killing it in this game, in Warcraft 3 older players are still the big force.

I think we’re a bit stuck into thinking what is ‘peak’ age based on Brood War and preconceptions on when players are too old or whatever.

There’s zero reason why Starcraft players can’t physiologically keep up way later when you see Roger Federer beat Nadal and narrowly lose the Wimbledon final at 37


Sc2's age requirements surely are different than those of KeSpa era Brood War, that's true.

As for Wc3, the scene isn't currently too big and I suspect the situation is similar to what is happening with Brood War; when Reforged comes out, we'll see if the old pros(most of which are 30 or older right now) will still be able to dominate.

Tennis evidently allows its very top players to be competitive for much longer, there is no way Flash or Moon could keep winning being 37 years old.



A big part of the reason BW's pro player base was so young is because that was the age of the playerbase. I don't think sc2 or bw are that different from a physical standpoint. We just don't know what the 'peak' age range for esports is since esports hasn't been around long enough.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 15 2019 01:55 GMT
#1278
On July 15 2019 10:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 09:44 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 09:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 15 2019 09:11 LimeNade wrote:
The crazy thing is people act like Serral is regressing from losing to Reynor who is 17 but people forget Serral himself is only 21. Assuming neither of them stop playing and tournaments keep happening then they going to be duking it out for years to come

I think as we move along in Starcraft we have to reassess the age factor anyway. Players who are post 25 are still killing it in this game, in Warcraft 3 older players are still the big force.

I think we’re a bit stuck into thinking what is ‘peak’ age based on Brood War and preconceptions on when players are too old or whatever.

There’s zero reason why Starcraft players can’t physiologically keep up way later when you see Roger Federer beat Nadal and narrowly lose the Wimbledon final at 37


Sc2's age requirements surely are different than those of KeSpa era Brood War, that's true.

As for Wc3, the scene isn't currently too big and I suspect the situation is similar to what is happening with Brood War; when Reforged comes out, we'll see if the old pros(most of which are 30 or older right now) will still be able to dominate.

Tennis evidently allows its very top players to be competitive for much longer, there is no way Flash or Moon could keep winning being 37 years old.



A big part of the reason BW's pro player base was so young is because that was the age of the playerbase. I don't think sc2 or bw are that different from a physical standpoint. We just don't know what the 'peak' age range for esports is since esports hasn't been around long enough.


It's peculiar that Starleague winners always were younger than 22 years old(it should be so but I'm not totally sure), the various teams had older players in their rosters; as far as I know, less sc2 players have had serious wrists issues.
Experience can compensate the marginal loss in receptiveness but most likely age is still a factor.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 15 2019 02:02 GMT
#1279
On July 15 2019 10:55 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 10:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 15 2019 09:44 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 09:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 15 2019 09:11 LimeNade wrote:
The crazy thing is people act like Serral is regressing from losing to Reynor who is 17 but people forget Serral himself is only 21. Assuming neither of them stop playing and tournaments keep happening then they going to be duking it out for years to come

I think as we move along in Starcraft we have to reassess the age factor anyway. Players who are post 25 are still killing it in this game, in Warcraft 3 older players are still the big force.

I think we’re a bit stuck into thinking what is ‘peak’ age based on Brood War and preconceptions on when players are too old or whatever.

There’s zero reason why Starcraft players can’t physiologically keep up way later when you see Roger Federer beat Nadal and narrowly lose the Wimbledon final at 37


Sc2's age requirements surely are different than those of KeSpa era Brood War, that's true.

As for Wc3, the scene isn't currently too big and I suspect the situation is similar to what is happening with Brood War; when Reforged comes out, we'll see if the old pros(most of which are 30 or older right now) will still be able to dominate.

Tennis evidently allows its very top players to be competitive for much longer, there is no way Flash or Moon could keep winning being 37 years old.



A big part of the reason BW's pro player base was so young is because that was the age of the playerbase. I don't think sc2 or bw are that different from a physical standpoint. We just don't know what the 'peak' age range for esports is since esports hasn't been around long enough.


It's peculiar that Starleague winners always were younger than 22 years old(it should be so but I'm not totally sure), the various teams had older players in their rosters; as far as I know, less sc2 players have had serious wrists issues.
Experience can compensate the marginal loss in receptiveness but most likely age is still a factor.

I don’t think it is a factor outside of age previously being a factor.

The only people who have the time to put in to break through are young men, often teenage men. The only men who can grind it out on Kespa training regimes have previously been young men who wouldn’t have had much earning potential if they did something else.

Those age constraints I feel have previously been more down to scene, or wider societal constraints than anything physiological, and as eSports matures as a more stable career I think we’ll see a lot more older people still being competitive at the top end of things
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 15 2019 02:04 GMT
#1280
Also as an addendum if we’re looking at Starcraft specifically military service has always been a real career killer, nothing to do with age there outside of being eligible to have to do it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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