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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
July 14 2019 21:05 GMT
#1241
On July 15 2019 06:04 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:57 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:55 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:54 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:48 Penev wrote:
I actually rather have Serral win then Reynor tbh


Same. How will Serral finally get rank 1 on the TL power rank now?!?!


He will when he takes his second BlizzCon or maybe in September if he wins Assembly and GSL vs The World!

He should have had it after GSL vs the World


He should have had it after BlizzCon and honestly after Katowice as well. Don't worry and let's wait for the wrath of the Night King to be unleashed once more.

after Katowice!?
ah wait it's you - don't bother explaining


soO was ranked #1, Serral #2 with 2018 being taken into consideration; ranking soO that high was premature and dictated by the sheer emotion of his victory, he didn't deserve that spot.

ranking soO #2 would've just been cruel
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 14 2019 21:06 GMT
#1242
On July 15 2019 06:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
If Serral won't compete in GSL I really wish Reynor would come back for another try. He made the Ro16 on his first attempt, who knows how far he could get if he spent as much time practicing there as Special and Scarlett.

Although I know that's hard for him to do since he's still so young.


Reynor intended to go to Korea but his BlizzCon spot was at risk, you will see him play Code S since he openly declared he wants to.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
July 14 2019 21:06 GMT
#1243
Congratz Reynor! Badass games! Serral was great but you was better!

Good for the scene.
Part-time Serralogist
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 21:09:50
July 14 2019 21:06 GMT
#1244
On July 15 2019 06:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:03 Anc13nt wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Lol Serral can't even beat a foreigner, confirmed overrated


honestly, I think Serral just gets unlucky when he plays against Reynor. He looked a lot weaker in late game than in the past and he didn't do much burrow play later in the series, which I think is possibly one of his greatest strengths.


what has that to do with being "unlucky"?


It's just a general observation because he does a lot better against Dark and other Korean zerg who I think are stronger than Reynor in ZvZ.

Edit: The rest was just saying that he seemed not at 100%. Reynor is good but in terms of offline vs Korean winrate he's a lot weaker than Serral so I feel like Serral has a weakness against Reynor.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 21:17:42
July 14 2019 21:06 GMT
#1245
Game 4 took Serral for an all expenses covered trip to tilt town.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 21:08:42
July 14 2019 21:07 GMT
#1246
On July 15 2019 06:04 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:57 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:55 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:54 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:48 Penev wrote:
I actually rather have Serral win then Reynor tbh


Same. How will Serral finally get rank 1 on the TL power rank now?!?!


He will when he takes his second BlizzCon or maybe in September if he wins Assembly and GSL vs The World!

He should have had it after GSL vs the World


He should have had it after BlizzCon and honestly after Katowice as well. Don't worry and let's wait for the wrath of the Night King to be unleashed once more.

after Katowice!?
ah wait it's you - don't bother explaining


soO was ranked #1, Serral #2 with 2018 being taken into consideration; ranking soO that high was premature and dictated by the sheer emotion of his victory, he didn't deserve that spot.

neither did Serral who had no results in the previous 3 months and was outperformed by 4 players at Katowice.
#2 was still very generous.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 14 2019 21:07 GMT
#1247
On July 15 2019 06:05 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:04 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:57 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:55 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:54 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:48 Penev wrote:
I actually rather have Serral win then Reynor tbh


Same. How will Serral finally get rank 1 on the TL power rank now?!?!


He will when he takes his second BlizzCon or maybe in September if he wins Assembly and GSL vs The World!

He should have had it after GSL vs the World


He should have had it after BlizzCon and honestly after Katowice as well. Don't worry and let's wait for the wrath of the Night King to be unleashed once more.

after Katowice!?
ah wait it's you - don't bother explaining


soO was ranked #1, Serral #2 with 2018 being taken into consideration; ranking soO that high was premature and dictated by the sheer emotion of his victory, he didn't deserve that spot.

ranking soO #2 would've just been cruel


It would have been very appropriate, to be honest.
Lazzarus
Profile Joined December 2008
Faroe Islands114 Posts
July 14 2019 21:08 GMT
#1248
Forgets roach speed twice - still wins. Big Serral fan boy here, but nice to see Raynor get his first big win. Very likeable. But as he himself mentions, he has a long way to go before he is as consistent as Serral.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 14 2019 21:09 GMT
#1249
On July 15 2019 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:04 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:57 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:55 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:54 Parrek wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:48 Penev wrote:
I actually rather have Serral win then Reynor tbh


Same. How will Serral finally get rank 1 on the TL power rank now?!?!


He will when he takes his second BlizzCon or maybe in September if he wins Assembly and GSL vs The World!

He should have had it after GSL vs the World


He should have had it after BlizzCon and honestly after Katowice as well. Don't worry and let's wait for the wrath of the Night King to be unleashed once more.

after Katowice!?
ah wait it's you - don't bother explaining


soO was ranked #1, Serral #2 with 2018 being taken into consideration; ranking soO that high was premature and dictated by the sheer emotion of his victory, he didn't deserve that spot.

neither did Serral who had no results in the previous 3 months and was outperformed by 4 players at Katowice.


Nobody had and Serral started from a huge advantage in 2018. Your hate for Serral blinds you.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 14 2019 21:09 GMT
#1250
On July 15 2019 05:57 Anc13nt wrote:
Serral got really tilted after game 4 I think. I feel like he's still a top player but he's lost his psychological edge that he had in 2018.


Wins WCS Spring, makes grand finals of Summer, you only feel like he’s a top player. No he IS a top player and will continue to be a top player until he consistently gets knocked out before RO8, which hasn’t happened in 18 months.

Grats to Reynor though, very well deserved for an awesome kid. Finally topples Serral and I cannot wait to see him at Blizzcon!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
July 14 2019 21:11 GMT
#1251
On July 15 2019 06:06 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
If Serral won't compete in GSL I really wish Reynor would come back for another try. He made the Ro16 on his first attempt, who knows how far he could get if he spent as much time practicing there as Special and Scarlett.

Although I know that's hard for him to do since he's still so young.


Reynor intended to go to Korea but his BlizzCon spot was at risk, you will see him play Code S since he openly declared he wants to.

Scarlett and SpeCial played in GSL and this WCS event. If Reynor really wanted to, he could have made it work.

He might not have another chance because who the hell knows if Blizzard puts up any esports money for SC2 in 2020. We almost didn't get anything this year. (there is no other explanation for why everything was announced so late which caused a super condensed schedule)
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 21:12:12
July 14 2019 21:11 GMT
#1252
On July 15 2019 06:06 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:04 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:03 Anc13nt wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Lol Serral can't even beat a foreigner, confirmed overrated


honestly, I think Serral just gets unlucky when he plays against Reynor. He looked a lot weaker in late game than in the past and he didn't do much burrow play later in the series, which I think is possibly one of his greatest strengths.


what has that to do with being "unlucky"?


It's just a general observation because he does a lot better against Dark and other Korean zerg who I think are stronger than Reynor in ZvZ.

Edit: The rest was just saying that he seemed not at 100%.


Reynor convincingly beat Solar at HSC, I am not sure korean Zerg are better than him in ZvZ(I tend to think it's actually the opposite); I hope for a Dark vs Reynor match at GSL vs The World, that would be very interesting.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 14 2019 21:12 GMT
#1253
On July 15 2019 06:11 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:06 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
If Serral won't compete in GSL I really wish Reynor would come back for another try. He made the Ro16 on his first attempt, who knows how far he could get if he spent as much time practicing there as Special and Scarlett.

Although I know that's hard for him to do since he's still so young.


Reynor intended to go to Korea but his BlizzCon spot was at risk, you will see him play Code S since he openly declared he wants to.

Scarlett and SpeCial played in GSL and this WCS event. If Reynor really wanted to, he could have made it work.

He might not have another chance because who the hell knows if Blizzard puts up any esports money for SC2 in 2020. We almost didn't get anything this year. (there is no other explanation for why everything was announced so late which caused a super condensed schedule)

At least he already played in Korea and at least the skipping of GSL payed off.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 14 2019 21:12 GMT
#1254
On July 15 2019 06:11 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:06 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
If Serral won't compete in GSL I really wish Reynor would come back for another try. He made the Ro16 on his first attempt, who knows how far he could get if he spent as much time practicing there as Special and Scarlett.

Although I know that's hard for him to do since he's still so young.


Reynor intended to go to Korea but his BlizzCon spot was at risk, you will see him play Code S since he openly declared he wants to.

Scarlett and SpeCial played in GSL and this WCS event. If Reynor really wanted to, he could have made it work.

He might not have another chance because who the hell knows if Blizzard puts up any esports money for SC2 in 2020. We almost didn't get anything this year. (there is no other explanation for why everything was announced so late which caused a super condensed schedule)

Scarlett and Special are adults. Reynor is 17. Moving to a foreign nation for long term is sometimes not automatic for someone his age.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
July 14 2019 21:13 GMT
#1255
On July 15 2019 06:11 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:06 Anc13nt wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:04 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:03 Anc13nt wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Lol Serral can't even beat a foreigner, confirmed overrated


honestly, I think Serral just gets unlucky when he plays against Reynor. He looked a lot weaker in late game than in the past and he didn't do much burrow play later in the series, which I think is possibly one of his greatest strengths.


what has that to do with being "unlucky"?


It's just a general observation because he does a lot better against Dark and other Korean zerg who I think are stronger than Reynor in ZvZ.

Edit: The rest was just saying that he seemed not at 100%.


Reynor convincingly beat Solar at HSC, I am not sure korean Zerg are better than him in ZvZ(I tend to think it's actually the opposite); I hope for a Dark vs Reynor match at GSL vs The World, that would be very interesting.


that's possible. Reynor hasn't played very many games against Korean zerg so I guess we'll have to wait for GSL vs the World.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
July 14 2019 21:13 GMT
#1256
Previous occasions matches were much more closer (even when Serral lost). Reynor is really evolved in his game, and I assume he knows Serral's game inside-out.

Seldom Serral lose games making himself look that "handless" than tonight.

Now its Serral turn to study his young usurper.
Part-time Serralogist
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 14 2019 21:14 GMT
#1257
Wait Reynor won holy shit I stopped watching after Neeb vs Serral because I thought it was decided

Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
July 14 2019 21:16 GMT
#1258
On July 15 2019 06:12 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:11 Boggyb wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:06 Xain0n wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
If Serral won't compete in GSL I really wish Reynor would come back for another try. He made the Ro16 on his first attempt, who knows how far he could get if he spent as much time practicing there as Special and Scarlett.

Although I know that's hard for him to do since he's still so young.


Reynor intended to go to Korea but his BlizzCon spot was at risk, you will see him play Code S since he openly declared he wants to.

Scarlett and SpeCial played in GSL and this WCS event. If Reynor really wanted to, he could have made it work.

He might not have another chance because who the hell knows if Blizzard puts up any esports money for SC2 in 2020. We almost didn't get anything this year. (there is no other explanation for why everything was announced so late which caused a super condensed schedule)

Scarlett and Special are adults. Reynor is 17. Moving to a foreign nation for long term is sometimes not automatic for someone his age.


Riccardo can't move to Korea for longer than few weeks in Summer because he attends school in Italy and will not skip it.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
July 14 2019 21:16 GMT
#1259
i missed reynor winning, congrats
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 14 2019 21:18 GMT
#1260
On July 15 2019 06:05 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 06:02 Luolis wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:01 Waxangel wrote:
On July 15 2019 06:00 Luolis wrote:
On July 15 2019 05:57 Anc13nt wrote:
Serral got really tilted after game 4 I think. I feel like he's still a top player but he's lost his psychological edge that he had in 2018.

Stop spamming this "tilted" shit lmao. Kitchen psychologists everywhere


LOL is that the Finnish version of the english expression "Armchair psychologist?"

Indeed it is


lol maybe I could've chosen my words better but I genuinely feel like Serral is not as clutch as in the past. Same thing happened to Jaedong after he kept losing to Flash. He never won a really big tournament after 2010.


Serral in 2019 is not as clutch, for sure, and not as strong as he was when he reached his peak; he has been downgraded to untouchable god to very top player, probably still the best. Unlike Jaedong, Serral still wins tournament now, he just loses series and finals.

Reynor(as every other foreigner not named Serral) is not as strong in non mirror matchups.
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