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osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
June 16 2019 12:42 GMT
#61
Feel bad for Special... 3rd and 4th place prize money is huge ($2889 vs. $722)
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
June 16 2019 13:01 GMT
#62
scarlett is so incredibly inconsistent but my god, when she's on she is ON
Trans Rights
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
June 16 2019 13:20 GMT
#63
major 3rd finish ? not too shabby
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 16 2019 13:22 GMT
#64
On June 16 2019 22:20 seemsgood wrote:
major 3rd finish ? not too shabby

no. he lost the 3rd place match.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
June 16 2019 13:46 GMT
#65
On June 16 2019 22:22 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2019 22:20 seemsgood wrote:
major 3rd finish ? not too shabby

no. he lost the 3rd place match.

huh? that sucks tho..
this terran gotta stop hating protoss and start practice tvz real quick
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 13:48:59
June 16 2019 13:48 GMT
#66
On June 16 2019 22:46 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2019 22:22 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 16 2019 22:20 seemsgood wrote:
major 3rd finish ? not too shabby

no. he lost the 3rd place match.

huh? that sucks tho..
this terran gotta stop hating protoss and start practice tvz real quick


And he lost 0:3 to TIME in NEXT just a couple of weeks ago... Guess he needs a bit more practice on tvt too lol
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
June 16 2019 14:58 GMT
#67
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 15:14:04
June 16 2019 15:08 GMT
#68
On June 16 2019 23:58 Elentos wrote:
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?


It was Major when I checked, yesterday; I don't think this can be seen as a Premier tournament, either(especially when the ast HSC and Guangzhou Carnival were labeled Major).
I suppose there was an error?
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 15:22:03
June 16 2019 15:20 GMT
#69
On June 16 2019 23:58 Elentos wrote:
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?


Tournaments Tier Definition on TL:

Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world. They are commonly held by well-established franchises and are considered especially prestigious amongst the community.

Major Tournaments feature a large prize pool and a good number of top-tier players. They are generally one-time events which take place online.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 16 2019 15:28 GMT
#70
How weird that the finals was only Bo5. Feelsbadman
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 16 2019 15:39 GMT
#71
On June 17 2019 00:20 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2019 23:58 Elentos wrote:
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?


Tournaments Tier Definition on TL:

Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world. They are commonly held by well-established franchises and are considered especially prestigious amongst the community.

Major Tournaments feature a large prize pool and a good number of top-tier players. They are generally one-time events which take place online.

I think one hidden definition is that there must be some kind of qualifier involved as this tournament had but HSC doesn't now.

It's interesting to take a look at the reassignment of HSC from Premier to Major tier between HSC 16 and HSC 18:
They both satisfy the official TL definition for Premier tournament (in fact they're basically the exact same tournament happening 1 year apart) but the only difference is that HSC 16 had slots for qualifiers while 18 doesn't.
very illegal and very uncool
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 16 2019 15:42 GMT
#72
On June 17 2019 00:39 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 00:20 osliang wrote:
On June 16 2019 23:58 Elentos wrote:
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?


Tournaments Tier Definition on TL:

Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world. They are commonly held by well-established franchises and are considered especially prestigious amongst the community.

Major Tournaments feature a large prize pool and a good number of top-tier players. They are generally one-time events which take place online.

I think one hidden definition is that there must be some kind of qualifier involved as this tournament had but HSC doesn't now.

It's interesting to take a look at the reassignment of HSC from Premier to Major tier between HSC 16 and HSC 18:
They both satisfy the official TL definition for Premier tournament (in fact they're basically the exact same tournament happening 1 year apart) but the only difference is that HSC 16 had slots for qualifiers while 18 doesn't.


Then what about the Hangzhou Starcraft carnival? It also had qualifiers, had a higher prize pool than GPC, was played offline and had prestigious invites (neeb, innovation, rogue, hero, scarlett). Surely they belong to the same category, be it premier or major?
Year of MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 16:27:59
June 16 2019 16:21 GMT
#73
On June 17 2019 00:20 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2019 23:58 Elentos wrote:
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?

Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world. They are commonly held by well-established franchises and are considered especially prestigious amongst the community.

It's got a solid prize pool, it's played offline, GPL is a relatively well-known series of tournaments. But it definitely doesn't feature best players from all over the world or is considered particularly prestigious among the community. And 14 out of 16 attendees were invited too. Quite honestly this tournament's main appeal is that its prize pool is above 20k.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
June 16 2019 16:32 GMT
#74
Well, a lot of Chinese are surprised why this tournament is considered as premium.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 16 2019 16:33 GMT
#75
I wouldnt disagree moving it back to major.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 16:41:17
June 16 2019 16:40 GMT
#76
IMO the production alone deserves to be consider premium though, not to mention the amount of viewership it had globally, especially in China.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 16 2019 16:46 GMT
#77
On June 17 2019 01:40 osliang wrote:
IMO the production alone deserves to be consider premium though, not to mention the amount of viewership it had globally, especially in China.


It might be fine, but why wouldn't HSC or Hangzhou be Premier then?
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 17:22:38
June 16 2019 17:15 GMT
#78
On June 17 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 01:40 osliang wrote:
IMO the production alone deserves to be consider premium though, not to mention the amount of viewership it had globally, especially in China.


It might be fine, but why wouldn't HSC or Hangzhou be Premier then?

hangzhou tournament was a little of a mess with rock paper scissors for first map pick and no vetoes, no soundproofing on stage, etc

and only paid out to top3/ less players overall

homestory with 20k prize pool was always classified as premier until last one, so maybe just a mistake there
Progamer
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-16 17:34:17
June 16 2019 17:33 GMT
#79
On June 17 2019 01:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 00:20 osliang wrote:
On June 16 2019 23:58 Elentos wrote:
Liquipedia considers this a Premier tournament? The hell?

Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world. They are commonly held by well-established franchises and are considered especially prestigious amongst the community.

It's got a solid prize pool, it's played offline, GPL is a relatively well-known series of tournaments. But it definitely doesn't feature best players from all over the world or is considered particularly prestigious among the community. And 14 out of 16 attendees were invited too. Quite honestly this tournament's main appeal is that its prize pool is above 20k.

The majority of players actually got there by accumulating points in official tournaments like WCS qualifier/challenger or GPC monthlies. The only problem is the overall quality of players.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 16 2019 19:58 GMT
#80
On June 17 2019 02:15 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:
On June 17 2019 01:40 osliang wrote:
IMO the production alone deserves to be consider premium though, not to mention the amount of viewership it had globally, especially in China.


It might be fine, but why wouldn't HSC or Hangzhou be Premier then?

hangzhou tournament was a little of a mess with rock paper scissors for first map pick and no vetoes, no soundproofing on stage, etc

and only paid out to top3/ less players overall

homestory with 20k prize pool was always classified as premier until last one, so maybe just a mistake there


Thanks for making me notice that!
I agree with Digmouse, I am not sure there were enough top players to consider GPC a Premier event.
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