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On May 20 2019 01:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Happy for special. With that said, I have to say that the winrate of 2rax/3rax in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose.
we don't see it lose that often because we are watching professionals who don't want to do risky extreme cheeses except when they're pretty sure they have a read on their opponent and it will work. scout timings and patterns have an entire metagame to them.
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On May 20 2019 01:46 royalroadweed wrote:
From the way major plays I think he has a better chance at beating serral than he does at beating reynor. Major isnt that good at mirocing in multiple locations at once and not a deficiency you can afford with reynor's lings.
Serral's lings were good enough to kill TIME to be fair.
Although to be even more fair, Reynor just suicides lings in over and over without giving the potential losses much thought until he gets that one runby that wins the game. Serral is more conservative than that.
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On May 20 2019 01:27 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
btw... Maru never made it to the GSL finals. always dropped out in Ro4. untill last year. then he finally made it to the final and - as you know - won 4 in a row. Lets see...
what are you talking about? that didn't happen
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On May 20 2019 01:47 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Happy for special. With that said, I have to say that the winrate of 2rax/3rax in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose. we don't see it lose that often because we are watching professionals who don't want to do risky extreme cheeses except when they're pretty sure they have a read on their opponent and it will work. scout timings and patterns have an entire metagame to them.
It's a meme. Don't take it at face value.
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dont know if Demuslim / ToD is the best comp for this epic ZvZ.
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On May 20 2019 01:47 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Happy for special. With that said, I have to say that the winrate of 2rax/3rax in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose. we don't see it lose that often because we are watching professionals who don't want to do risky extreme cheeses except when they're pretty sure they have a read on their opponent and it will work. scout timings and patterns have an entire metagame to them.
I was memeing.
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ZvZ not casted by Demuslim and Pig? 
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On May 20 2019 01:43 RampancyTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:31 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:29 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:22 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:20 IshinShishi wrote:
Special could've pulled 21 boys and still be fully saturated, he would be more than fine if he had made the third in his main. if you build the 3rd in the main you might as well not build it at all as it takes so long to float over. This is a joke, right? It takes like 15 seconds tops to float it to the third base there. Less SCV loss and probably less time lost considering how likely it is for the building SCV to be sniped. terran is extremely short for money in TvP if they don't go for a greedy 3CC build so every second counts. Sure, but you lose more by trying to build it on location when the location is super close to your main. It's a bad play against a good player who is almost guaranteed to sneak something in to disrupt the building process if it's out on the map. Eat the 15 seconds, which is negligible, because eating 15 seconds is better than losing 1-2 SCVs and being delayed by 15 seconds anyway.
too bad special doesn't have high level terrans like you to practice with, he'd be MVP level if he only understood the game
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i love all four of these players, really happy with whoever win. This is gonna be a fun series and a fun finals!
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On May 20 2019 01:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
i love all four of these players, really happy with whoever win. This is gonna be a fun series and a fun finals!
You decided to return during a pretty fun tournament
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"a lesson from Lambo's book" <- The fast muta was Reynor's build to begin with, according to Lambo who credited Reynor for it after the game
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On May 20 2019 01:50 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:43 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:31 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:29 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:22 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:20 IshinShishi wrote:
Special could've pulled 21 boys and still be fully saturated, he would be more than fine if he had made the third in his main. if you build the 3rd in the main you might as well not build it at all as it takes so long to float over. This is a joke, right? It takes like 15 seconds tops to float it to the third base there. Less SCV loss and probably less time lost considering how likely it is for the building SCV to be sniped. terran is extremely short for money in TvP if they don't go for a greedy 3CC build so every second counts. Sure, but you lose more by trying to build it on location when the location is super close to your main. It's a bad play against a good player who is almost guaranteed to sneak something in to disrupt the building process if it's out on the map. Eat the 15 seconds, which is negligible, because eating 15 seconds is better than losing 1-2 SCVs and being delayed by 15 seconds anyway. too bad special doesn't have high level terrans like you to practice with, he'd be MVP level if he only understood the game
Nah, what he says isn't stupid and I understand his thought process even though he's probably wrong in this case.
Just because they're pro players doesn't mean we can't criticize their plays
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On May 20 2019 01:49 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:47 brickrd wrote:On May 20 2019 01:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Happy for special. With that said, I have to say that the winrate of 2rax/3rax in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose. we don't see it lose that often because we are watching professionals who don't want to do risky extreme cheeses except when they're pretty sure they have a read on their opponent and it will work. scout timings and patterns have an entire metagame to them. It's a meme. Don't take it at face value.
i have no way of knowing that other than keeping up with which TL posters have which personalities, which i don't
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On May 20 2019 01:52 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:50 brickrd wrote:On May 20 2019 01:43 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:31 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:29 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:22 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:20 IshinShishi wrote:
Special could've pulled 21 boys and still be fully saturated, he would be more than fine if he had made the third in his main. if you build the 3rd in the main you might as well not build it at all as it takes so long to float over. This is a joke, right? It takes like 15 seconds tops to float it to the third base there. Less SCV loss and probably less time lost considering how likely it is for the building SCV to be sniped. terran is extremely short for money in TvP if they don't go for a greedy 3CC build so every second counts. Sure, but you lose more by trying to build it on location when the location is super close to your main. It's a bad play against a good player who is almost guaranteed to sneak something in to disrupt the building process if it's out on the map. Eat the 15 seconds, which is negligible, because eating 15 seconds is better than losing 1-2 SCVs and being delayed by 15 seconds anyway. too bad special doesn't have high level terrans like you to practice with, he'd be MVP level if he only understood the game Nah, what he says isn't stupid and I understand his thought process even though he's probably wrong in this case. Just because they're pro players doesn't mean we can't criticize their plays
did i violate his freedom of speech? my bad
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Finally in-game face shots thank you!
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On May 20 2019 01:54 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 01:52 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:50 brickrd wrote:On May 20 2019 01:43 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:31 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:29 RampancyTW wrote:On May 20 2019 01:22 Charoisaur wrote:On May 20 2019 01:20 IshinShishi wrote:
Special could've pulled 21 boys and still be fully saturated, he would be more than fine if he had made the third in his main. if you build the 3rd in the main you might as well not build it at all as it takes so long to float over. This is a joke, right? It takes like 15 seconds tops to float it to the third base there. Less SCV loss and probably less time lost considering how likely it is for the building SCV to be sniped. terran is extremely short for money in TvP if they don't go for a greedy 3CC build so every second counts. Sure, but you lose more by trying to build it on location when the location is super close to your main. It's a bad play against a good player who is almost guaranteed to sneak something in to disrupt the building process if it's out on the map. Eat the 15 seconds, which is negligible, because eating 15 seconds is better than losing 1-2 SCVs and being delayed by 15 seconds anyway. too bad special doesn't have high level terrans like you to practice with, he'd be MVP level if he only understood the game Nah, what he says isn't stupid and I understand his thought process even though he's probably wrong in this case. Just because they're pro players doesn't mean we can't criticize their plays did i violate his freedom of speech? my bad
I just don't like the thinking of "they're pro players so everything they do is correct and we should never criticize them"
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Serral is 20–11 (64.52%) in games and 6–2 (75.00%) in matches against Reynor
the last 2 matches were Reynor's of course
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This is when income per minute would be nice to have...
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nice, tunneling claws still exists
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Serral's ZvZ is disgusting
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EPT
