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On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players.
I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him.
He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it.
He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist.
He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant.
He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world.
He's won big tournaments but not as many as sOs or Zest
Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain.
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On April 21 2019 19:04 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players. I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him. He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it. He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist. He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant. He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world. Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain.
Stats is the best all around protoss 
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On April 21 2019 19:03 Elentos wrote:
GSL S3: REEEEEEEEEEE
Well, if Serral wins GSL vs The World again, I wouldn't doubt that 
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 21 2019 18:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 18:38 deacon.frost wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tournament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. 2 Code S 2nd places 1 GSL ST 2nd place 1 IEM 2nd place It's not like he's been that bad from 2015 That IEM 2nd place isn't that impressive considering he was 50% of the Korean attendance (and let Scarlett win). The other results are good but except that the last Super Tournament he always looked pretty bad even when he made deep runs. In 2015 he actually looked brilliant. And that is beside the fact that for the first 1 1/2 years of LotV sOs did the same build every PvT and people still gave him credit for being the smartest player alive.
If everything falls into his plan it looks brilliant, otherwise it's looking stupid, that's how sOs work. (e.g. the blink DTs vs ByuN, if that fails he looks like an idiot)
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This should be a nice finals, both players would be great as Champion.
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If Classic win this, he is the best player in Korea in the last span of months.
He won the the last Super Tournament, got 2nd place in Code S and highly probable to win this tournament too.
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On April 21 2019 19:04 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 19:04 Fango wrote:On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players. I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him. He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it. He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist. He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant. He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world. Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain. Stats is the best all around protoss
Absolutely. It's not even close.
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On April 21 2019 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 19:04 Waxangel wrote:On April 21 2019 19:04 Fango wrote:On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players. I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him. He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it. He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist. He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant. He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world. Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain. Stats is the best all around protoss Absolutely. It's not even close.
That would be why he's the most consistent. But Classic has the highest range of all Protoss players I think. His cheese game goes off a deeper end than Stats'.
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What sets Classic apart from other protosses is obviously his chin
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classic and his classic whine defence
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On April 21 2019 19:04 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 19:04 Fango wrote:On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players. I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him. He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it. He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist. He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant. He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world. Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain. Stats is the best all around protoss
Best protoss =/= best all round protoss. Classic has much more variety in his play and is better at aggressive builds.
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Are Tastosis forbidden to mention SSL or OSL? Because they never talk about the titles the players won in these leagues.
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cmon classic pull it together
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On April 21 2019 19:14 Durnuu wrote:
What sets Classic apart from other protosses is obviously his chin
stats used to have one too
protoss alroundnessness is all in the chin
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On April 21 2019 19:15 Morbidius wrote:
Are Tastosis forbidden to mention SSL or OSL? Because they never talk about the titles the players won in these leagues.
The entire community forgets about those leagues.
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On April 21 2019 19:13 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:On April 21 2019 19:04 Waxangel wrote:On April 21 2019 19:04 Fango wrote:On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players. I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him. He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it. He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist. He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant. He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world. Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain. Stats is the best all around protoss Absolutely. It's not even close. That would be why he's the most consistent. But Classic has the highest range of all Protoss players I think. His cheese game goes off a deeper end than Stats'.
Yea I agree, Classic excels at preparation and at a variety of strategies. But that's not all there is to starcraft. There's micro, macro, defense, multitasking etc etc. Factor all that in and Stats is number one.
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On April 21 2019 19:17 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 19:13 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:On April 21 2019 19:04 Waxangel wrote:On April 21 2019 19:04 Fango wrote:On April 21 2019 18:38 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:37 Penev wrote:On April 21 2019 18:35 Elentos wrote:On April 21 2019 18:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Also is sOs the most underrated SC2 player? If anything he's closer to the opposite. Hasn't won a tounornament since 2015 but people look at him like he's still at the level he was then. also historically his current opponent is a much better example of an underrated player Ah yes, the GSL, SSL, IEM and Super Tournament champion that will never ever come up in discussion for greatest Protoss players. I've said this before but Classic is easily the best all-round protoss. He just isn't the absolute best at anything which is why people forget about him. He has superb micro, but herO and PartinG are more famous for it. He has seriously smart and creative builds, but sOs and Has exist. He's really consistant in tournaments, but Stats is more consistant. He's been pretty dominant at times when he's won, but not Zest or Dear level where they looked like the best in the world. Even when he broke out in 2014/2015, he was so underrated but overshadowed by guys like Zest, Dear, and Rain. Stats is the best all around protoss Absolutely. It's not even close. That would be why he's the most consistent. But Classic has the highest range of all Protoss players I think. His cheese game goes off a deeper end than Stats'. Yea I agree, Classic excels at preparation and at a variety of strategies. But that's not all there is to starcraft. There's micro, macro, defense, multitasking etc etc. Factor all that in and Stats is number one.
Is Stats really the number one protoss at all of that? I wouldn't say so.
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EPT
