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On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT.
bombgoat best goat
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On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT.
Hello good sir, would you be interested in writing the TL Awards article this year? 
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On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster
The shocking thing is that people actually genuinely this. Taeja is a GOAT contender despite his zero korean wins.
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On April 14 2019 20:02 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 20:00 ilovegroov wrote:On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster fucking saved in that hots era, Terran went almost a year without winning a single premier tournament. the drough wouldve been so much longer if it werent for taeja it's like 2018 protoss. where they won 2/15 premier tournaments (probably fewere this year since Blizzard keeps nerfing them )
Keep digging!
On April 14 2019 20:03 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster The shocking thing is that people actually genuinely this. Taeja is a GOAT contender despite his zero korean wins.
yo man he almost hit diamonds
hes digging straight down tho
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On April 14 2019 19:55 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
yup i mean the maru fan squad hypes code S so much, but the other SC2 titan in serral doesnt even participate in it. u cant call someone the GOAT when the tournaments he wins doesnt even have the best/second best player in the world (and when he does participate in the same tournaments as serral he underperforms) neither serral nor maru are the GOATs or even bonjwas
Code S still has top players of the world. If we give Neeb, Scarlett, Reynor, Serral and mjr Special a rank of RO16 Code S player(which all of them are not at the same time usually), we still have 11 Koreans to complete the RO16 who are good.
So Maru is competing in the most difficult tournament we have and won it 4 times in a row across different patches and what's more importnat, he was the dominating Terran. While we can talk about Serral, we can talk about Reynor, Rogue, Dark, soO. Who else had any major success as a Terran except Innovation in WESG this year? TY's 2nd place in Code S? We can talk about Neeb, Stats, Classic, Zest...
AND? It doesn't look like there's that many good Terran or that the game favors the race yet Maru keeps winning GSL titles.
ANd it's not MAru's fault Serral is avoiding Korea.
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On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
Maru was still dominating Pro League though during the KESPA era in SC2. He just struggled to win the individual tournaments. But he was a monster in Pro League, year after year.
To be fair, so was Innovation during Pro League.
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On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014 ... competition is not remotely close.
were you watching the same games as me in 2014?? the level of play is now substantially higher than in 2014. the reason why you just don't see so many sick micro moments and incredible marine splits is because this style of play has been patched out of the meta. mass marine / mine vs lingbanemuta isn't even possible anymore. you can't drop zerg all game long. tvz in 2014 was lightning fast and more impressive to watch. tvp in 2014, same story. terran could do loads of multi-pronged drops, attacking 3 or 4 places at the same time. now because of the way the game has been patched, terran must keep his entire army together in 1 force. the competition is still just as fierce
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On April 14 2019 19:46 ilovegroov wrote:
y'all saying Maru has bad TvT... he played like two TvTs this year.
He lost to Bunny and he lost to Innovation, got read like a book. Maru obviously doesn't have an actual bad match-up but it's fair to say TvT is the one he's most likely to lose.
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On April 14 2019 19:46 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:41 Xain0n wrote:On April 14 2019 19:31 Morbidius wrote:On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like. As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa.. Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT. Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events. It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport? Its all bitter Serral/Life fans or nostalgic Mvp fans. I count six Premier tournaments: Code S S3 2018, Super tournament II 2018, BlizzCon 2018, IEM Katowice 2019, WESG 2019, Cose S S1 2019. It's not about saltiness, it's about the meaning of words: a Bonjwa losing 0-3 at BlizzCon ro8, not even making out of the groupstages at Katowice and winning 2/6 tournaments recently? Please...bonjwa is about domination, not consistency; Maru is a Code S bonjwa, for sure, no more than that. As for GOAT, I see why you guys think he is the one since Code S is basically anything that's relevant in sc2 to your eyes. Maru lacks international successes and he only has seven Premier titles, he surely is closer to be GOAT than being a bonjwa but I still think there are more accomplished players around. Yeah, Maru is lacking wins over these foreign ZvZs clowfiestas, why would he be the GOAT with 4 GSL wins? Can't call him the GOAT until he wins 4 WCS Chechenyas in a row or something.
Embarassing bait attempt.
Do you know of anything called IEM? WCS global finals? BlizzCon?
To name someone who is still playing the game, Inno is one who did not only win on asian soil(and won ten Premier titles in six years of career while Maru had to wait eight before becoming the best player in Korea).
Again, it's easy to understand such veneration, Korean tournaments are the only ones that matters, right? But wait, it's actually Code S only: Maru is the GOAT without the shade of a doubt, in this case...
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On April 14 2019 20:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:46 ilovegroov wrote:
y'all saying Maru has bad TvT... he played like two TvTs this year. He lost to Bunny and he lost to Innovation, got read like a book. Maru obviously doesn't have an actual bad match-up but it's fair to say TvT is the one he's most likely to lose.
I guess, its still kind of a shot in the dark prediction imo
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On April 14 2019 20:05 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:55 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
yup i mean the maru fan squad hypes code S so much, but the other SC2 titan in serral doesnt even participate in it. u cant call someone the GOAT when the tournaments he wins doesnt even have the best/second best player in the world (and when he does participate in the same tournaments as serral he underperforms) neither serral nor maru are the GOATs or even bonjwas Code S still has top players of the world. If we give Neeb, Scarlett, Reynor, Serral and mjr Special a rank of RO16 Code S player(which all of them are not at the same time usually), we still have 11 Koreans to complete the RO16 who are good. So Maru is competing in the most difficult tournament we have and won it 4 times in a row across different patches and what's more importnat, he was the dominating Terran. While we can talk about Serral, we can talk about Reynor, Rogue, Dark, soO. Who else had any major success as a Terran except Innovation in WESG this year? TY's 2nd place in Code S? We can talk about Neeb, Stats, Classic, Zest... AND? It doesn't look like there's that many good Terran or that the game favors the race yet Maru keeps winning GSL titles. ANd it's not MAru's fault Serral is avoiding Korea.
GSL is still nothing compared what used to be in the past. We talked about this way before Maru started to win any of his GSL. He’s the best player in the world atm , but people who claim him to be the GOAT are really ignoring how easier is the league past kespa disband.
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On April 14 2019 20:05 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:55 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
yup i mean the maru fan squad hypes code S so much, but the other SC2 titan in serral doesnt even participate in it. u cant call someone the GOAT when the tournaments he wins doesnt even have the best/second best player in the world (and when he does participate in the same tournaments as serral he underperforms) neither serral nor maru are the GOATs or even bonjwas Code S still has top players of the world. If we give Neeb, Scarlett, Reynor, Serral and mjr Special a rank of RO16 Code S player(which all of them are not at the same time usually), we still have 11 Koreans to complete the RO16 who are good. So Maru is competing in the most difficult tournament we have and won it 4 times in a row across different patches and what's more importnat, he was the dominating Terran. While we can talk about Serral, we can talk about Reynor, Rogue, Dark, soO. Who else had any major success as a Terran except Innovation in WESG this year? TY's 2nd place in Code S? We can talk about Neeb, Stats, Classic, Zest... AND? It doesn't look like there's that many good Terran or that the game favors the race yet Maru keeps winning GSL titles. ANd it's not MAru's fault Serral is avoiding Korea.
Look - I'm not saying Maru is not a beast. he has the strongest case for best player in the world atm imo
I'm just saying he's not GOAT.
indeed, Code S is still dominated by koreans. but compared to the previous years....the talent is lacking
Greatest of all time is a strong title. I do not believe he is the michael jordan of sc2. Peak Michael jordan never got swept like a chump like Maru did in literally blizzcon (maru stated that money is most important to him so nobody can say he doesnt care about those payday tournaments)
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On April 14 2019 20:07 SHODAN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014 ... competition is not remotely close. were you watching the same games as me in 2014?? the level of play is now substantially higher than in 2014. the reason why you just don't see so many sick micro moments and incredible marine splits is because this style of play has been patched out of the meta. mass marine / mine vs lingbanemuta isn't even possible anymore. you can't drop zerg all game long. tvz in 2014 was lightning fast and more impressive to watch. tvp in 2014, same story. terran could do loads of multi-pronged drops, attacking 3 or 4 places at the same time. now because of the way the game has been patched, terran must keep his entire army together in 1 force. the competition is still just as fierce
You can't compare the games in the vacuum as the players developped with the game. Back in 2014 the top 32 players of the world were in Korea and had the Korean citizenship. I dare to say top 50 players of the world were Koreans, but I give you 1 or 2 foreigners in it for the funs.
In this stacked competition and the volatility of the game it wouldn't be possible to be this dominating as sooner or later somebody will get you. GSL RO32 was pretty stacked back then.
That being said we need to mention Maru was a monster in Proleague back then... so it's not like he was bad or something.
On April 14 2019 20:10 raff100 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 20:05 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 19:55 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
yup i mean the maru fan squad hypes code S so much, but the other SC2 titan in serral doesnt even participate in it. u cant call someone the GOAT when the tournaments he wins doesnt even have the best/second best player in the world (and when he does participate in the same tournaments as serral he underperforms) neither serral nor maru are the GOATs or even bonjwas Code S still has top players of the world. If we give Neeb, Scarlett, Reynor, Serral and mjr Special a rank of RO16 Code S player(which all of them are not at the same time usually), we still have 11 Koreans to complete the RO16 who are good. So Maru is competing in the most difficult tournament we have and won it 4 times in a row across different patches and what's more importnat, he was the dominating Terran. While we can talk about Serral, we can talk about Reynor, Rogue, Dark, soO. Who else had any major success as a Terran except Innovation in WESG this year? TY's 2nd place in Code S? We can talk about Neeb, Stats, Classic, Zest... AND? It doesn't look like there's that many good Terran or that the game favors the race yet Maru keeps winning GSL titles. ANd it's not MAru's fault Serral is avoiding Korea. GSL is still nothing compared what used to be in the past. We talked about this way before Maru started to win any of his GSL. He’s the best player in the world atm , but people who claim him to be the GOAT are really ignoring how easier is the league past kespa disband.
DOesn';t matter much as Maru was great even bacfk then. He got the best proleague player for a reason... jeesus fucking christ, at least rewatch the old games, the blink era? Maru was the best terran, where was Innovation? Mvp? Serral?
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On April 14 2019 20:06 xelnaga_empire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
Maru was still dominating Pro League though during the KESPA era in SC2. He just struggled to win the individual tournaments. But he was a monster in Pro League, year after year. To be fair, so was Innovation during Pro League.
He won two starleagues and made ro4 in another three, and had decent showings (ro4+) at weekenders including blizzcon.
And he was probably the best proleague player ever. The idea that Maru struggled during kespa is just wrong. He was the best terran in korea overall in terms of consistency.
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I really cannot comprehend how its even possible people to argue about bonjwa and goat when there are no clear/strict criteria what these titles actually mean. Everybody is putting their own criteria and claiming shit based on them and others are actually trying to dispute. Consider seeing a doctor guys or a shrink I dont know xDD
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Maru is clearly hiding in Korea to dodge fierce competition such as Meomaika
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On April 14 2019 20:11 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 20:06 xelnaga_empire wrote:On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
Maru was still dominating Pro League though during the KESPA era in SC2. He just struggled to win the individual tournaments. But he was a monster in Pro League, year after year. To be fair, so was Innovation during Pro League. He won two starleagues and made ro4 in another three, and had decent showings (ro4+) at weekenders including blizzcon. And he was probably the best proleague player ever. The idea that Maru struggled during kespa is just wrong. He was the best terran in korea overall in terms of consistency.
With Innovation. BAck at the time he was a force to be reckon with 
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On April 14 2019 20:04 ilovegroov wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 20:02 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 20:00 ilovegroov wrote:On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster fucking saved in that hots era, Terran went almost a year without winning a single premier tournament. the drough wouldve been so much longer if it werent for taeja it's like 2018 protoss. where they won 2/15 premier tournaments (probably fewere this year since Blizzard keeps nerfing them ) Keep digging! Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 20:03 Fango wrote:On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster The shocking thing is that people actually genuinely this. Taeja is a GOAT contender despite his zero korean wins. yo man he almost hit diamonds hes digging straight down tho
Can someone appreciate my minecraft jokes pls? 
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On April 14 2019 20:05 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 19:55 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:51 raff100 wrote:
Maru is probably the best player of LotV, but imo we can’t compare post kespa era to pre kespa era. The competition these days is so bland that code S qualifiers are nearly a joke. There’s no proleague, no starleague and GSL is way too predictable until ro8.
And furthermore , Flash dominance of 2009-2010 is way above any Starcraft 2 player ever had. GOD literally showed to be a top1/top2 in every occasion he had, in a period where Starcraft was The Game in KR.
Maru is still impressive , but a win in 2019 is nowhere as hard as a win in 2014, not to talk about a win in BroodWar. Despite what casters may say to hype the crowd , competition is not remotely close.
yup i mean the maru fan squad hypes code S so much, but the other SC2 titan in serral doesnt even participate in it. u cant call someone the GOAT when the tournaments he wins doesnt even have the best/second best player in the world (and when he does participate in the same tournaments as serral he underperforms) neither serral nor maru are the GOATs or even bonjwas Code S still has top players of the world. If we give Neeb, Scarlett, Reynor, Serral and mjr Special a rank of RO16 Code S player(which all of them are not at the same time usually), we still have 11 Koreans to complete the RO16 who are good. So Maru is competing in the most difficult tournament we have and won it 4 times in a row across different patches and what's more importnat, he was the dominating Terran. While we can talk about Serral, we can talk about Reynor, Rogue, Dark, soO. Who else had any major success as a Terran except Innovation in WESG this year? TY's 2nd place in Code S? We can talk about Neeb, Stats, Classic, Zest... AND? It doesn't look like there's that many good Terran or that the game favors the race yet Maru keeps winning GSL titles. ANd it's not MAru's fault Serral is avoiding Korea.
Thank you sir. Almost everything I wanted to say.
The player I was rooting against won so? the scene is dead...matchup is a joke....this wouldnt be possible X years ago.
I dont understand why do the people saying all of the above even watch? Because it certainly does not look like you appreciate decent starcraft irrespective of whoever won or lost. Specially since GSL is not "international" enough for some of you..
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On April 14 2019 20:13 ilovegroov wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 20:04 ilovegroov wrote:On April 14 2019 20:02 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 20:00 ilovegroov wrote:On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster fucking saved in that hots era, Terran went almost a year without winning a single premier tournament. the drough wouldve been so much longer if it werent for taeja it's like 2018 protoss. where they won 2/15 premier tournaments (probably fewere this year since Blizzard keeps nerfing them ) Keep digging! On April 14 2019 20:03 Fango wrote:On April 14 2019 19:58 BerserkSword wrote:On April 14 2019 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
I agree with Xainon, Code S is worth nothing right now because the best player doesn't compete in it and since Maru is too afraid to get a VISA and play in the more prestigious competition he has a hard time to catch up to the real GOATs.
The GOAT is still TaeJa since he has won the most tournaments - Maru has now caught up to Serral in the GOAT ranking with 7 premier victories but according to my criteria he isn't anywhere close to GOAT. yea look at taeja for exmple he did all of that during a time when talent was deep and terran was weak. what a monster The shocking thing is that people actually genuinely this. Taeja is a GOAT contender despite his zero korean wins. yo man he almost hit diamonds hes digging straight down tho Can someone appreciate my minecraft jokes pls?
ur game is shit
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