EPTOn April 14 2019 19:22 Argonauta wrote:
well TYTY may be equal at TvT and thats all really
well TYTY may be equal at TvT and thats all really
He's better at not losing to Scarlett!
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Elentos
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He's better at not losing to Scarlett! | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:22 ParksonVN wrote: how about Inno, TY or even Gumiho? It's not like they have not won anything recently Yeah but Inno isn't looking too good these days. He won WESG but not qualifying in ST and getting knocked out of GSL ro16 is not very good. Fantasy was much closer to Flash in terms of results (after 2010 ofc) than the other terrans are to Maru, imo. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote: As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa.. Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT. OK | ||
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ValM
India408 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:11 ilovegroov wrote: Im afraid this will get worse. There is no new blood in GSL. The cliff of military service / the body performance drop off at ~ 27 years is going to catch up everybody else years before Maru. Maru vs the grandpas who already did military service it will be. Yeah I guess Neeb, Raynor, Scarlett, Special would be grandpas as well then. Wish Serral would come over to Korea sometime. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
Also, 2 tournaments in seven months is pretty misleading since there wasn't much happening from like November to February (winning 2 out of 5 tournaments in that 7 month time period isn't too bad either). | ||
Poopi
France13022 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote: As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa.. Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT. Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events. It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:15 Anc13nt wrote: Maru is like Flash except there is no FantaSy-level terran who is near his level atm. Eh..... I'd say if Maru was beatable in a match up it's in TvT. TY, Innovation and Gumiho are all REALLY good TvT players. I'd give all of them pretty decent odds at taking Maru out in a Bo7, with TY I'd say being an even 1:1 odds maybe -1.2 or something. In TvZ Maru is kind of all over the place, looking brilliant one series and not so much in the next. It's only TvP where he looks like he can't actually be stopped. | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
If Maru keeps up his pace of winning though, he will surpass Innovation as GOAT fairly soon for me (just my opinion). | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:28 Vindicare605 wrote: Eh..... I'd say if Maru was beatable in a match up it's in TvT. TY, Innovation and Gumiho are all REALLY good TvT players. I'd give all of them pretty decent odds at taking Maru out in a Bo7, with TY I'd say being an even 1:1 odds maybe -1.2 or something. In TvZ Maru is kind of all over the place, looking brilliant one series and not so much in the next. It's only TvP where he looks like he can't actually be stopped. I agree. Maru results-wise is way better than the other terrans but he often looks like he can lose to anyone. Evidently when it matters most, he can look as if he can't lose to anyone. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote: Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events. It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport? GOATs dont get swept at blizzcon lol | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:28 Vindicare605 wrote: Eh..... I'd say if Maru was beatable in a match up it's in TvT. TY, Innovation and Gumiho are all REALLY good TvT players. I'd give all of them pretty decent odds at taking Maru out in a Bo7, with TY I'd say being an even 1:1 odds maybe -1.2 or something. In TvZ Maru is kind of all over the place, looking brilliant one series and not so much in the next. It's only TvP where he looks like he can't actually be stopped. but you said that cause his playoffs has been vs toss. Maru is fucking incredible at TvZ an TvT. Sure, the guy loses some matches, but who doesnt? I stil remember when people were giving gumiho the advantage in his match vs Maru in a GSL playoff and got sweep 3-0 with ease by Maru. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote: Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events. It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport? Its all bitter Serral/Life fans or nostalgic Mvp fans. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
But they do win the GSL 4 times in a row. Something that nobody has come remotely close to | ||
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ValM
India408 Posts
So by your logic there would be no GOAT right? Since the other GOAT contender did not qualify for the last Blizzcon and has in fact never won it either? | ||
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Anc13nt
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:32 ValM wrote: So by your logic there would be no GOAT right? Since the other GOAT contender did not qualify for the last Blizzcon and has in fact never won it either? Its probably one of those people who started when the game went free to play and who thinks Serral is the GOAT. | ||
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Xitah
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:32 ValM wrote: So by your logic there would be no GOAT right? Since the other GOAT contender did not qualify for the last Blizzcon and has in fact never won it either? And all the Blizzcon winners are not even close in Code S department. Damn  | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On April 14 2019 19:34 Xitah wrote: Great play by Maru but the decline of Korean SC is obvious. There is only one protoss at the very top: stats. Serral, the top zerg is a foreigner, in fact it is likely that the top two zergs are foreigners and both of those are likely below Life. Korean terrans other than Maru are highly inconsistent. Expect Maru to win many more GSLs, there is only one and half players who can stop him. Yeah can't help but feel that despite how amazing Maru has been playing, this wouldn't/shouldn't have been possible a few years ago when the scene was stronger. | ||
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