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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55459 Posts
April 14 2019 10:24 GMT
#581
On April 14 2019 19:22 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:21 goody153 wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:20 Morbidius wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:19 goody153 wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:15 Anc13nt wrote:
Maru is like Flash except there is no FantaSy-level terran who is near his level atm.

TY ?

Watch TY vs Trap, then Maru vs Trap.

Yeah i've watched that. It looked sad and i even had hopes with Trap due to that.

Then Maru just ran through him

i thought i was talking more in general rather than specific MU


well TYTY may be equal at TvT and thats all really

He's better at not losing to Scarlett!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
April 14 2019 10:24 GMT
#582
On April 14 2019 19:22 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:15 Anc13nt wrote:
Maru is like Flash except there is no FantaSy-level terran who is near his level atm.


how about Inno, TY or even Gumiho? It's not like they have not won anything recently


Yeah but Inno isn't looking too good these days. He won WESG but not qualifying in ST and getting knocked out of GSL ro16 is not very good. Fantasy was much closer to Flash in terms of results (after 2010 ofc) than the other terrans are to Maru, imo.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
April 14 2019 10:25 GMT
#583
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

OK
ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-14 10:26:03
April 14 2019 10:25 GMT
#584

On April 14 2019 19:11 ilovegroov wrote:
Im afraid this will get worse. There is no new blood in GSL. The cliff of military service / the body performance drop off at ~ 27 years is going to catch up everybody else years before Maru. Maru vs the grandpas who already did military service it will be.

Yeah I guess Neeb, Raynor, Scarlett, Special would be grandpas as well then.

Wish Serral would come over to Korea sometime.
The Terran Prince is now the king. Maru | MMA | Mvp forever
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-14 10:27:35
April 14 2019 10:27 GMT
#585
On April 14 2019 19:25 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

OK


Also, 2 tournaments in seven months is pretty misleading since there wasn't much happening from like November to February (winning 2 out of 5 tournaments in that 7 month time period isn't too bad either).
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
April 14 2019 10:27 GMT
#586
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?
WriterMaru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
April 14 2019 10:28 GMT
#587
On April 14 2019 19:15 Anc13nt wrote:
Maru is like Flash except there is no FantaSy-level terran who is near his level atm.


Eh.....

I'd say if Maru was beatable in a match up it's in TvT.

TY, Innovation and Gumiho are all REALLY good TvT players. I'd give all of them pretty decent odds at taking Maru out in a Bo7, with TY I'd say being an even 1:1 odds maybe -1.2 or something.

In TvZ Maru is kind of all over the place, looking brilliant one series and not so much in the next.

It's only TvP where he looks like he can't actually be stopped.

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
April 14 2019 10:30 GMT
#588
I think Maru is very close to Innovation now as GOAT. But after Innovation's WESG win, I still have Innovation ahead of Maru.

If Maru keeps up his pace of winning though, he will surpass Innovation as GOAT fairly soon for me (just my opinion).
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
April 14 2019 10:30 GMT
#589
On April 14 2019 19:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:15 Anc13nt wrote:
Maru is like Flash except there is no FantaSy-level terran who is near his level atm.


Eh.....

I'd say if Maru was beatable in a match up it's in TvT.

TY, Innovation and Gumiho are all REALLY good TvT players. I'd give all of them pretty decent odds at taking Maru out in a Bo7, with TY I'd say being an even 1:1 odds maybe -1.2 or something.

In TvZ Maru is kind of all over the place, looking brilliant one series and not so much in the next.

It's only TvP where he looks like he can't actually be stopped.



I agree. Maru results-wise is way better than the other terrans but he often looks like he can lose to anyone. Evidently when it matters most, he can look as if he can't lose to anyone.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
April 14 2019 10:30 GMT
#590
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?


GOATs dont get swept at blizzcon lol
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
April 14 2019 10:30 GMT
#591
On April 14 2019 19:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:15 Anc13nt wrote:
Maru is like Flash except there is no FantaSy-level terran who is near his level atm.


Eh.....

I'd say if Maru was beatable in a match up it's in TvT.

TY, Innovation and Gumiho are all REALLY good TvT players. I'd give all of them pretty decent odds at taking Maru out in a Bo7, with TY I'd say being an even 1:1 odds maybe -1.2 or something.

In TvZ Maru is kind of all over the place, looking brilliant one series and not so much in the next.

It's only TvP where he looks like he can't actually be stopped.



but you said that cause his playoffs has been vs toss. Maru is fucking incredible at TvZ an TvT. Sure, the guy loses some matches, but who doesnt? I stil remember when people were giving gumiho the advantage in his match vs Maru in a GSL playoff and got sweep 3-0 with ease by Maru.
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repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
April 14 2019 10:30 GMT
#592
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
April 14 2019 10:31 GMT
#593
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?

Its all bitter Serral/Life fans or nostalgic Mvp fans.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 14 2019 10:32 GMT
#594
On April 14 2019 19:30 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?


GOATs dont get swept at blizzcon lol


But they do win the GSL 4 times in a row. Something that nobody has come remotely close to
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ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
April 14 2019 10:32 GMT
#595
On April 14 2019 19:30 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?


GOATs dont get swept at blizzcon lol


So by your logic there would be no GOAT right?

Since the other GOAT contender did not qualify for the last Blizzcon and has in fact never won it either?
The Terran Prince is now the king. Maru | MMA | Mvp forever
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
April 14 2019 10:33 GMT
#596
Yeah, the question is not whether Maru is GOAT, it's whether Inno can catch up or if Stats can be the greater player accounting for only LotV.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
April 14 2019 10:34 GMT
#597
On April 14 2019 19:32 ValM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:30 BerserkSword wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?


GOATs dont get swept at blizzcon lol


So by your logic there would be no GOAT right?

Since the other GOAT contender did not qualify for the last Blizzcon and has in fact never won it either?

Its probably one of those people who started when the game went free to play and who thinks Serral is the GOAT.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Xitah
Profile Joined October 2018
49 Posts
April 14 2019 10:34 GMT
#598
Great play by Maru but the decline of Korean SC is obvious. There is only one protoss at the very top: stats. Serral, the top zerg is a foreigner, in fact it is likely that the top two zergs are foreigners and both of those are likely below Life. Korean terrans other than Maru are highly inconsistent. Expect Maru to win many more GSLs, there is only one and half players who can stop him.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 14 2019 10:35 GMT
#599
On April 14 2019 19:32 ValM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2019 19:30 BerserkSword wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:27 Poopi wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:15 Xain0n wrote:
On April 14 2019 19:05 Morbidius wrote:
Serral fans, this is what a Bonjwa looks like.


As I said yesterday, it's not even close to how a bonjwa should be; two tournaments in seven months? Must be bonjwa..
Maru is evidently the best Code S player in history; surely not bonjwa, most likely not GOAT.

Don’t be salty lol, no other player ever came close to this in the history of StarCraft 2. And he did it across patches nonetheless, while all others terrans struggled to even qualify for events.

It’s not even about is he GOAT at this point, it’s obvious he is, it’s about will we see another contender for GOAT before sc2 dies as an esport?


GOATs dont get swept at blizzcon lol


So by your logic there would be no GOAT right?

Since the other GOAT contender did not qualify for the last Blizzcon and has in fact never won it either?

And all the Blizzcon winners are not even close in Code S department. Damn
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
April 14 2019 10:36 GMT
#600
On April 14 2019 19:34 Xitah wrote:
Great play by Maru but the decline of Korean SC is obvious. There is only one protoss at the very top: stats. Serral, the top zerg is a foreigner, in fact it is likely that the top two zergs are foreigners and both of those are likely below Life. Korean terrans other than Maru are highly inconsistent. Expect Maru to win many more GSLs, there is only one and half players who can stop him.


Yeah can't help but feel that despite how amazing Maru has been playing, this wouldn't/shouldn't have been possible a few years ago when the scene was stronger.
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