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On April 14 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:22 Doko wrote:
I don't know if that situation is winable if you let the batteries go up that close. Maybe reactored vikings while very slowly adding thors has a chance but doubt it. Think there was a small window to just siege the batteries / pylon while reparing tanks on the high ground before tempest number reached critical mass. You need to get up a viking count that's high enough to do so much damage to a tempest in every volley that the shield batteries don't matter.
so would you horde the vikings in the back? i don't think you have enough time. i think you have to cancel air production and go 100% bio and try to bust it with mariners.
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The sad thing is that this cheese lacks all the flair of sOs cheese.
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Czech Republic12134 Posts
On April 14 2019 18:26 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:22 Proko wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:20 Heartland wrote:
All I want is one good, late game game. Nah, you won't see that IMO. If there will be one it is because one side defended a push/cheese and has an advantage. Which means the late game will be bad anyway Unfortunately this is just the state of tvp right now. There's still some chances for it left. Year Zero and King's Cove are so huge neither player might want to do overdo it in the early game.
You're wrong 
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Tricky last maps for Maru.
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Blizzard... fix this game or it will actually die. I can't believe this bs every single season. This is why we have 17k viewers for the biggest final of the year.
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On April 14 2019 18:26 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Doko wrote:
I don't know if that situation is winable if you let the batteries go up that close. Maybe reactored vikings while very slowly adding thors has a chance but doubt it. Think there was a small window to just siege the batteries / pylon while reparing tanks on the high ground before tempest number reached critical mass. You need to get up a viking count that's high enough to do so much damage to a tempest in every volley that the shield batteries don't matter. so would you horde the vikings in the back? i don't think you have enough time. i think you have to cancel air production and go 100% bio and try to bust it with mariners.
You can't outdamage shield batteries with unstimmed marines. Let alone the gateway units and the fact that the tempests can kite you.
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On April 14 2019 18:26 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Doko wrote:
I don't know if that situation is winable if you let the batteries go up that close. Maybe reactored vikings while very slowly adding thors has a chance but doubt it. Think there was a small window to just siege the batteries / pylon while reparing tanks on the high ground before tempest number reached critical mass. You need to get up a viking count that's high enough to do so much damage to a tempest in every volley that the shield batteries don't matter. so would you horde the vikings in the back? i don't think you have enough time. i think you have to cancel air production and go 100% bio and try to bust it with mariners.
and how do you kill the tempests with that?
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The audience getting hyped for the reaper finding the gate while the Stalker is already attacking the natural
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On April 14 2019 18:27 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:26 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Proko wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:20 Heartland wrote:
All I want is one good, late game game. Nah, you won't see that IMO. If there will be one it is because one side defended a push/cheese and has an advantage. Which means the late game will be bad anyway Unfortunately this is just the state of tvp right now. There's still some chances for it left. Year Zero and King's Cove are so huge neither player might want to do overdo it in the early game. You're wrong
I said might, I just gave them the option
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
For unscouted proxy gate, it pretty much did nothing.
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i find this early pressure build is just straight up abusive.it doesn't give protoss eco advantage but really hinder terran's aggressive move
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On April 14 2019 18:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:27 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:26 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Proko wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:20 Heartland wrote:
All I want is one good, late game game. Nah, you won't see that IMO. If there will be one it is because one side defended a push/cheese and has an advantage. Which means the late game will be bad anyway Unfortunately this is just the state of tvp right now. There's still some chances for it left. Year Zero and King's Cove are so huge neither player might want to do overdo it in the early game. You're wrong I said might, I just gave them the option
OK, your wish wasn't granted then
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On April 14 2019 18:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:26 Alejandrisha wrote:On April 14 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Doko wrote:
I don't know if that situation is winable if you let the batteries go up that close. Maybe reactored vikings while very slowly adding thors has a chance but doubt it. Think there was a small window to just siege the batteries / pylon while reparing tanks on the high ground before tempest number reached critical mass. You need to get up a viking count that's high enough to do so much damage to a tempest in every volley that the shield batteries don't matter. so would you horde the vikings in the back? i don't think you have enough time. i think you have to cancel air production and go 100% bio and try to bust it with mariners. You can't outdamage shield batteries with unstimmed marines. Let alone the gateway units and the fact that the tempests can kite you.
why is stim out of the question?
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On April 14 2019 18:28 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:26 Alejandrisha wrote:On April 14 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Doko wrote:
I don't know if that situation is winable if you let the batteries go up that close. Maybe reactored vikings while very slowly adding thors has a chance but doubt it. Think there was a small window to just siege the batteries / pylon while reparing tanks on the high ground before tempest number reached critical mass. You need to get up a viking count that's high enough to do so much damage to a tempest in every volley that the shield batteries don't matter. so would you horde the vikings in the back? i don't think you have enough time. i think you have to cancel air production and go 100% bio and try to bust it with mariners. and how do you kill the tempests with that?
with gauss rifles
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Can anyone fill me in on why Classics tempest cheese is a good build? I missed that game :'( what makes it better than other tempest + shield battery cheese?
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On April 14 2019 18:31 OhThatDang wrote:
Can anyone fill me in on why Classics tempest cheese is a good build? I missed that game :'( what makes it better than other tempest + shield battery cheese?
Because it beat Maru so it's clearly broken.
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On April 14 2019 18:30 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:29 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:27 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:26 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Proko wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:20 Heartland wrote:
All I want is one good, late game game. Nah, you won't see that IMO. If there will be one it is because one side defended a push/cheese and has an advantage. Which means the late game will be bad anyway Unfortunately this is just the state of tvp right now. There's still some chances for it left. Year Zero and King's Cove are so huge neither player might want to do overdo it in the early game. You're wrong I said might, I just gave them the option OK, your wish wasn't granted then
I only have 2 wishes for this match. For the games to not be shit (which is the more important part) and for Classic to win.
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On April 14 2019 18:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:30 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:29 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:27 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:26 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 Proko wrote:On April 14 2019 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:On April 14 2019 18:20 Heartland wrote:
All I want is one good, late game game. Nah, you won't see that IMO. If there will be one it is because one side defended a push/cheese and has an advantage. Which means the late game will be bad anyway Unfortunately this is just the state of tvp right now. There's still some chances for it left. Year Zero and King's Cove are so huge neither player might want to do overdo it in the early game. You're wrong I said might, I just gave them the option OK, your wish wasn't granted then I only have 2 wishes for this match. For the games to not be shit (which is the more important part) and for Classic to win.
i believe one of your conditions has already been met ;D
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Why no turrets? He sees the number is increasing and he needs upgrades anyway
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On April 14 2019 18:32 deacon.frost wrote:
Why no turrets? He sees the number is increasing and he needs upgrades anyway
marines best turret since BW alpha version
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EPT
