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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
April 03 2019 10:37 GMT
#81
On April 03 2019 19:34 Pandemona wrote:
I think Darks strat was fine after the muta into infestors, but heed needed to neural the Immortals as well, he literally just took 4 Archons and they just didn't really do anything. Taking 2-3 Immortals out of that fight probably would have worked wonders. Then again maybe just going Roach Hydra also would have worked better...


How do you neural immortals when they are behind several archons?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 10:38:48
April 03 2019 10:37 GMT
#82
On April 03 2019 19:36 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:35 Pandemona wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:34 NExt wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:32 Pandemona wrote:
Holy smokes the immortals are PUMPING lol

Countered everything except for the big dogs. I got hyped when I saw Dark target the HTs with the neurals then realised it was roaches vs 8 immortals.

Yeah that was pretty much the same as me. I thought would great strat, then was like oh wait Archons not doing much whilst neural'd

Neuraling the immortals is great in theory obviously, but in this case he couldn't realistically neural them because the immortals were behind the archons. If he neurals the immortals, he has to get his infestors closer and would get them smashed by the archons.

Also very true, so in reality that strat would have taken some really big outplay on behalf of Dark to make it work. He would have had to probably have burrow infestors at the very least or do some very sick counter surround or something lol.
On April 03 2019 19:37 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:34 Pandemona wrote:
I think Darks strat was fine after the muta into infestors, but heed needed to neural the Immortals as well, he literally just took 4 Archons and they just didn't really do anything. Taking 2-3 Immortals out of that fight probably would have worked wonders. Then again maybe just going Roach Hydra also would have worked better...


How do you neural immortals when they are behind several archons?

Well he wrapped around with the roaches to the back or they came from the back/side whilst the infestors were at the front with the archons no? But yeah i guess burrow was needed.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 03 2019 10:38 GMT
#83
On April 03 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Infestors aren't bad but when the rest of your army consists of only roach vs mass immortal it obviously won't work

Maybe controlling the immortals?

Nah, Archons and HTs would just kill the Infestors then, the reason this worked is because Archons are so big that other units couldn't pass through them to the Infestors, and they killed HTs quickly.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
April 03 2019 10:39 GMT
#84
DaRO4k

I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
April 03 2019 10:39 GMT
#85
Somehow RO8gue worked better
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 03 2019 10:40 GMT
#86
On April 03 2019 19:38 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Infestors aren't bad but when the rest of your army consists of only roach vs mass immortal it obviously won't work

Maybe controlling the immortals?

Nah, Archons and HTs would just kill the Infestors then, the reason this worked is because Archons are so big that other units couldn't pass through them to the Infestors, and they killed HTs quickly.

The way classic went for third it would have been possible from the highground of 2nd? But that's just theory. Save mutas, neural archons, kill immortals, we can theory craft mucho
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 03 2019 10:41 GMT
#87
all Classic has to do to prep for the final is defend proxies
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 03 2019 10:42 GMT
#88
On April 03 2019 19:41 Noonius wrote:
all Classic has to do to prep for the final is defend proxies

This is his 2nd proxy in 4 maps himself to be fair! :D
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 10:43:48
April 03 2019 10:42 GMT
#89
Inca?

Edit> disappointed
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 03 2019 10:43 GMT
#90
Oh no the overlord stopped xd
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ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
April 03 2019 10:43 GMT
#91
omg...
I like Dark
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 03 2019 10:43 GMT
#92
Up 3-1? Time to proxy literally everything I guess
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
April 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#93
On April 03 2019 19:37 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:36 Durnuu wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:35 Pandemona wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:34 NExt wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:32 Pandemona wrote:
Holy smokes the immortals are PUMPING lol

Countered everything except for the big dogs. I got hyped when I saw Dark target the HTs with the neurals then realised it was roaches vs 8 immortals.

Yeah that was pretty much the same as me. I thought would great strat, then was like oh wait Archons not doing much whilst neural'd

Neuraling the immortals is great in theory obviously, but in this case he couldn't realistically neural them because the immortals were behind the archons. If he neurals the immortals, he has to get his infestors closer and would get them smashed by the archons.

Also very true, so in reality that strat would have taken some really big outplay on behalf of Dark to make it work. He would have had to probably have burrow infestors at the very least or do some very sick counter surround or something lol.
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:37 BerserkSword wrote:
On April 03 2019 19:34 Pandemona wrote:
I think Darks strat was fine after the muta into infestors, but heed needed to neural the Immortals as well, he literally just took 4 Archons and they just didn't really do anything. Taking 2-3 Immortals out of that fight probably would have worked wonders. Then again maybe just going Roach Hydra also would have worked better...


How do you neural immortals when they are behind several archons?

Well he wrapped around with the roaches to the back or they came from the back/side whilst the infestors were at the front with the archons no? But yeah i guess burrow was needed.


yea the infestors were near the spine crawlers when classic's army touched down at dark's position. The thing is, it was basically 6 or so archons barrelling down into the the spine/infestor line, with the 8+ immortals and high templars much farther behind. those infestors couldnt go near the ht/immortal death ball anyway. it was just a weak strategy imo, especially when the only backup is roaches
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#94
On April 03 2019 19:42 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 19:41 Noonius wrote:
all Classic has to do to prep for the final is defend proxies

This is his 2nd proxy in 4 maps himself to be fair! :D


toss is scum in general, for them it's standard opening
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
April 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#95
Classic sure knows how to pick those proxy locations
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#96
Well this is the end, he thinks stargate as well. RIP Dar04k
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#97
And another BO loss. Lazy ovies
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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
April 03 2019 10:44 GMT
#98
High ground proxies, how do they work?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 03 2019 10:46 GMT
#99
Well, that didn't work out very well for classic.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
April 03 2019 10:47 GMT
#100
Decision to counter pretty good one from Dark
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