EPT[WCS 2019] Winter Series - Ro8 - EU & NA - Page 3
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Nakajin
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Elentos
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On March 24 2019 00:44 Need wrote: Maru and Inno already made the ZvT situation clear It's so rare for games to go as late as Inno and Maru mean, especially on halfway even footing. The hell kind of games do they play in practice to be sure Zerg can't win? | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:47 Elentos wrote: It's so rare for games to go as late as Inno and Maru mean, especially on halfway even footing. The hell kind of games do they play in practice to be sure Zerg can't win? Well, it's not that they lack practice. Rogue's ZvT is solid and I guess they are more likely to play against Dark's and Solar's; recent tournament results also seem to suggest Terran wins the lategame more often against Zerg. | ||
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Need
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BerserkSword
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On March 24 2019 00:47 Elentos wrote: It's so rare for games to go as late as Inno and Maru mean, especially on halfway even footing. The hell kind of games do they play in practice to be sure Zerg can't win? terran efficiency snowballs at that point Mules, mech, Terran sim cities, pound for pound strongest units in the game, all the range advantages, etc. It just makes sense, and the proof is in the pudding | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:41 starkiller123 wrote: So was it the jet lag this time or some other random excuse? I don't really get the excuse you're refering to, you look like an angry boy with a vivid imagination. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:41 starkiller123 wrote: So was it the jet lag this time or some other random excuse? What excuse? Heromarine legitimately won. It's crystal clear Serral is not the dominating juggernaut he was the last year, but that's not an excuse. If someone would like to throw words like "outplay" that might be the case it's appropriate. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:51 stilt wrote: I don't really get the excuse you're refering to, you look like an angry boy with a vivid imagination. whoosh | ||
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Elentos
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On March 24 2019 00:51 BerserkSword wrote: terran efficiency snowballs at that point Mules, mech, Terran sim cities, all the range advantages, etc. It just makes sense They don't play mech though. And as I said, games going that late to begin with is a rarity. Like, the late game they're talking about is lots of ghosts, mass libs, nukes. That's 20+ minute games. Those are already rare to begin with among Koreans. And they also depend on players not making a game-ending mistake. And there's literally nothing easier in late game ZvT/TvZ than to make a game-ending mistake. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:53 Xain0n wrote: What excuse? Heromarine legitimately won. It's crystal clear Serral is not the dominating juggernaut he was the last year, but that's not an excuse. If someone would like to throw in something like "outplay" that might be the case it's appropriate. not sure what serral was supposed to do when his fleet of zerg's most expensive units just melt to a mech ball | ||
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Need
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Ej_
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On March 24 2019 00:55 BerserkSword wrote: not sure what serral was supposed to do when his fleet of zerg's most expensive units just melt to a mech ball fuck i wish the most expensive zerg unit was the hydralisk | ||
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Need
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:55 BerserkSword wrote: not sure what serral was supposed to do when his fleet of zerg's most expensive units just melt to a mech ball I can't tell you either, but that's not exactly what we see every game. I am not a top Zerg, we will see if it's Serral being out of shape/having hard times vs Terran/choosing inappropriate strats of if that strat is just overwhelming; I'll stick with my hypothesis for now. | ||
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yht9657
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On March 24 2019 00:57 Need wrote: Wow CrankTV at 4k viewers? Do Koreans actually watch European Starcraft at 1AM or what? Is the figure before or after Serral lost tho | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:54 Elentos wrote: They don't play mech though. And as I said, games going that late to begin with is a rarity. Like, the late game they're talking about is lots of ghosts, mass libs, nukes. That's 20+ minute games. Those are already rare to begin with among Koreans. And they also depend on players not making a game-ending mistake. And there's literally nothing easier in late game ZvT/TvZ than to make a game-ending mistake. both mech and ghost/lib styles are highly efficient though unit comps are only one aspect. Terran racial attributes like mules, sim city w/ static defense + entrenched positions, unit efficiency are just so powerful in the ultra late game. i agree with inno and maru - that kind of late game Terran is heavily favored | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:59 Need wrote: Time for the 2 base all-ins from Rail Are you sure you are a new member? You remind me of someone(again)... | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 24 2019 00:58 Ej_ wrote: fuck i wish the most expensive zerg unit was the hydralisk i mean the broodlord + viper fleet lol | ||
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sneakyfox
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Elentos
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On March 24 2019 01:06 sneakyfox wrote: Wow Serral lost to Heromarine? Guess his ZvT is worse than we thought. Although Heromarine seems to be strong at the moment, he played high level TvT at Katowice too. Watch as 2-0'ing Serral is the only win Heromarine gets in this entire playoff | ||
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