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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-11 13:59:30
March 11 2019 13:57 GMT
#341
On March 11 2019 22:54 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 22:50 Xain0n wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:43 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:41 Harris1st wrote:
Group A-D is done and there is absolutely zero suprises of who advanced


i dont know man

i couldve imagined showtime advancing over neeb, and has advancing over elazer


Those are hardly surprises, the bigget upset of the day was Maru losing against Meomaika, but it did no harm in the end.

If Inno wins his group there is a good chanche of Serral vs Koreans happening as early as ro8; unless the draw is predetermined, moreover, there is a whopping 15% of Maru-Serral eventually taking place.


i must be the only nut wanting to see serral vs innovation instead of serral vs maru


Why not both? :D

Edit: Anybody know if there are seeding rules? "1st A vs 2nd B" - Standard seeding?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
March 11 2019 13:58 GMT
#342
Is there a link to the Meomaika vs Maru match? How can the best Terran player in the world lose to an unknown Zerg, who isn't even a professional player?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 11 2019 13:59 GMT
#343
Meomaika also took a game off of special, and puck, and beat demi

so he must be pretty good. good for him.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 11 2019 14:02 GMT
#344
On March 11 2019 22:58 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Is there a link to the Meomaika vs Maru match? How can the best Terran player in the world lose to an unknown Zerg, who isn't even a professional player?

The game wasn't streamed anywhere as far as we know.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 11 2019 14:02 GMT
#345
On March 11 2019 22:57 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 22:54 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:50 Xain0n wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:43 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:41 Harris1st wrote:
Group A-D is done and there is absolutely zero suprises of who advanced


i dont know man

i couldve imagined showtime advancing over neeb, and has advancing over elazer


Those are hardly surprises, the bigget upset of the day was Maru losing against Meomaika, but it did no harm in the end.

If Inno wins his group there is a good chanche of Serral vs Koreans happening as early as ro8; unless the draw is predetermined, moreover, there is a whopping 15% of Maru-Serral eventually taking place.


i must be the only nut wanting to see serral vs innovation instead of serral vs maru


Why not both? :D

Edit: Anybody know if there are seeding rules? "1st A vs 2nd B" - Standard seeding?


i wouldnt complain about both

but for me, the order is

1) serral vs inno
2) serral vs dark
3) serral vs scarlett
4) serral vs maru

and im rooting for neeb to win it all since he's american lol
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-11 14:22:21
March 11 2019 14:06 GMT
#346
On March 11 2019 22:59 travis wrote:
Meomaika also took a game off of special, and puck, and beat demi

so he must be pretty good. good for him.

Someone who i have honestly never heard of came this close to qualifying from a group with Maru and Special, that s quite something

Also, Neeb has very good chance to win or get to the finals at least. The biggest names who are in competition are almost all zergs + Maru and Innovation. PvZ is his best mu, PvP it's his worst (as per IEM interview).
There are no Korean protosses at this tournament, and the foreigner tosses who are left are 2nd tier players.

Assuming 1st seed gets a 2nd seed, so far he could get Lambo / Elazer / Special, probably Special would be the hardest of those three. And the rest of the groups have a clear nr 1, and are severely lacking the 2nd top tier pro, so i'm asuming the remaining 4 second places gonna be something like
E - Ptitdrogo / Probe
F - DNS/Bly
G - Stefano/ Toodming
H - that s actually tough to call, czu everyone from group H is mediocre at best.

So Neeb is almost guaranteed to get an easy ticket to the ro8, chances are few of the other top contenders will be out by that point (Serral being 2nd means he's either out in the first round, or takes down a group winner, someone like Maru or Dark etc)

So yeha, things looking good for USA
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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
March 11 2019 14:15 GMT
#347
I find it really disturbing though that an amateur (Meomaika) can beat one of the best players in the world. This is like an amateur tennis player beating Roger Federer. I mean, if there is a professional tennis player that beats Roger Federer, that's one thing. But an amateur beating Roger Federer shouldn't happen. You wouldn't expect an amateur player to beat one of the best players in the world, in any sport, not just e-sports. And Maru was beat 2-0 too, not even 2-1.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
March 11 2019 14:18 GMT
#348
On March 11 2019 23:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 22:59 travis wrote:
Meomaika also took a game off of special, and puck, and beat demi

so he must be pretty good. good for him.

Someone who i have honestly never heard of came this close to qualifying from a group with Maru and Special, that s quite something


he's around for quite some time. he played at asien games demonstration event and made it quite deep AFAIR. But for sure its a big surprise.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 11 2019 14:21 GMT
#349
On March 11 2019 23:15 xelnaga_empire wrote:
I find it really disturbing though that an amateur (Meomaika) can beat one of the best players in the world. This is like an amateur tennis player beating Roger Federer. I mean, if there is a professional tennis player that beats Roger Federer, that's one thing. But an amateur beating Roger Federer shouldn't happen. You wouldn't expect an amateur player to beat one of the best players in the world, in any sport, not just e-sports. And Maru was beat 2-0 too, not even 2-1.


Meomaika isn't that bad, his Aligulac score is similar to the one currently XiGua or Dimaga have.
Thus said, his 2-0 victory was a huge upset.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 11 2019 14:22 GMT
#350
On March 11 2019 23:15 xelnaga_empire wrote:
I find it really disturbing though that an amateur (Meomaika) can beat one of the best players in the world. This is like an amateur tennis player beating Roger Federer. I mean, if there is a professional tennis player that beats Roger Federer, that's one thing. But an amateur beating Roger Federer shouldn't happen. You wouldn't expect an amateur player to beat one of the best players in the world, in any sport, not just e-sports. And Maru was beat 2-0 too, not even 2-1.


Meomaika is at least semi-pro, he made it into wcs winter. I assume Maru did whatever and got cheese 2 time in a row, let's not draw to much analysis, Zest lost to TangTang and professional SC got along just fine with the benefit of having a great meme for the future.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
March 11 2019 14:33 GMT
#351
On March 11 2019 23:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 22:59 travis wrote:
Meomaika also took a game off of special, and puck, and beat demi

so he must be pretty good. good for him.

Someone who i have honestly never heard of came this close to qualifying from a group with Maru and Special, that s quite something

Also, Neeb has very good chance to win or get to the finals at least. The biggest names who are in competition are almost all zergs + Maru and Innovation. PvZ is his best mu, PvP it's his worst (as per IEM interview).
There are no Korean protosses at this tournament, and the foreigner tosses who are left are 2nd tier players.

Assuming 1st seed gets a 2nd seed, so far he could get Lambo / Elazer / Special, probably Special would be the hardest of those three. And the rest of the groups have a clear nr 1, and are severely lacking the 2nd top tier pro, so i'm asuming the remaining 4 second places gonna be something like
E - Ptitdrogo / Probe
F - DNS/Bly
G - Stefano/ Toodming
H - that s actually tough to call, czu everyone from group H is mediocre at best.

So Neeb is almost guaranteed to get an easy ticket to the ro8, chances are few of the other top contenders will be out by that point (Serral being 2nd means he's either out in the first round, or takes down a group winner, someone like Maru or Dark etc)

So yeha, things looking good for USA


The signs definitely point towards a possible top 4 finish for Neeb, but getting to finals/winning would probably mean he has to take out one of Inno, Dark, Maru or Serral in bo5/7. Serral I can see happening, Inno and Maru maybe but against Dark he seems to have a huge mental block.
Year of MaxPax
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 11 2019 14:41 GMT
#352
On March 11 2019 23:18 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 23:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:59 travis wrote:
Meomaika also took a game off of special, and puck, and beat demi

so he must be pretty good. good for him.

Someone who i have honestly never heard of came this close to qualifying from a group with Maru and Special, that s quite something


he's around for quite some time. he played at asien games demonstration event and made it quite deep AFAIR. But for sure its a big surprise.

If he's the Zerg version of Has I can see how he can win in BO3. You win game 1 by something completely random throwing Maru off and then defending proxy into something even more weird.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 11 2019 14:43 GMT
#353
On March 11 2019 23:33 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 23:06 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 11 2019 22:59 travis wrote:
Meomaika also took a game off of special, and puck, and beat demi

so he must be pretty good. good for him.

Someone who i have honestly never heard of came this close to qualifying from a group with Maru and Special, that s quite something

Also, Neeb has very good chance to win or get to the finals at least. The biggest names who are in competition are almost all zergs + Maru and Innovation. PvZ is his best mu, PvP it's his worst (as per IEM interview).
There are no Korean protosses at this tournament, and the foreigner tosses who are left are 2nd tier players.

Assuming 1st seed gets a 2nd seed, so far he could get Lambo / Elazer / Special, probably Special would be the hardest of those three. And the rest of the groups have a clear nr 1, and are severely lacking the 2nd top tier pro, so i'm asuming the remaining 4 second places gonna be something like
E - Ptitdrogo / Probe
F - DNS/Bly
G - Stefano/ Toodming
H - that s actually tough to call, czu everyone from group H is mediocre at best.

So Neeb is almost guaranteed to get an easy ticket to the ro8, chances are few of the other top contenders will be out by that point (Serral being 2nd means he's either out in the first round, or takes down a group winner, someone like Maru or Dark etc)

So yeha, things looking good for USA


The signs definitely point towards a possible top 4 finish for Neeb, but getting to finals/winning would probably mean he has to take out one of Inno, Dark, Maru or Serral in bo5/7. Serral I can see happening, Inno and Maru maybe but against Dark he seems to have a huge mental block.


I'm hoping inno, maru, or serral eliminate dark for neeb lmao

otherwise neeb's only hope is that he finally gets his head out of his ass when playing against dark. He does have the talent to beat dark.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 11 2019 14:48 GMT
#354
I hope we get Serral-Maru in the round of 16, it's high time we settle this thing
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 11 2019 14:55 GMT
#355
On March 11 2019 23:21 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 23:15 xelnaga_empire wrote:
I find it really disturbing though that an amateur (Meomaika) can beat one of the best players in the world. This is like an amateur tennis player beating Roger Federer. I mean, if there is a professional tennis player that beats Roger Federer, that's one thing. But an amateur beating Roger Federer shouldn't happen. You wouldn't expect an amateur player to beat one of the best players in the world, in any sport, not just e-sports. And Maru was beat 2-0 too, not even 2-1.


Meomaika isn't that bad, his Aligulac score is similar to the one currently XiGua or Dimaga have.
Thus said, his 2-0 victory was a huge upset.


It is a big upset for sure, but when you consider that he is a top SEA zerg who likely practices on KR server, it's not a complete shock. Must have just had a few good games, and without a stream/replays to go off, it's impossible to know how the games went. Grats to him though, Vietnam is a cool region to represent in SC2.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
March 11 2019 14:58 GMT
#356
IM expecting maru was memeing the whole day but vs special, tbh.... He is not a serious player.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 11 2019 15:00 GMT
#357
On March 11 2019 23:15 xelnaga_empire wrote:
I find it really disturbing though that an amateur (Meomaika) can beat one of the best players in the world. This is like an amateur tennis player beating Roger Federer. I mean, if there is a professional tennis player that beats Roger Federer, that's one thing. But an amateur beating Roger Federer shouldn't happen. You wouldn't expect an amateur player to beat one of the best players in the world, in any sport, not just e-sports. And Maru was beat 2-0 too, not even 2-1.


Yeah but Roger Federer would play fairly similar tennis against any opponent in a serious setting regardless of if they are a pro whereas Maru probably went for some 0 respect cheese twice in a row against Meomaika.

Also Meo is #120 in the world according to aligulac, and in tennis player #120 beating the world champion isn't unheard of. In fact players rated lower than that have won Grand Slam tournaments.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 11 2019 15:04 GMT
#358
Maru and Serral are both declining, someway; it would still be very interesting match but the best opportunity to see them at their apex was at BlizzCon(or GSL vs the World).

Group H is better than you guys think, TIME and Rail are in good shape while the same can't be said of Kelazhur and SortOf, who are still pretty decent by the way; not an easy group to predict but I wouldn't call it mediocre.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 11 2019 15:05 GMT
#359
On March 11 2019 23:58 Argonauta wrote:
IM expecting maru was memeing the whole day but vs special, tbh.... He is not a serious player.

I believe no one ever asked him abut this
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
March 11 2019 15:37 GMT
#360
WESG won't release replays from group stage, yes? Not one of Meomaika's games was streamed, kinda curious how he won most.
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