EPTWESG 2018 Grand Final - Group Stage Day 1 - Page 17
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:36 Jerom wrote: Some Jin air greenwings players need to step up their anti proxy game and show maru its not working. Sometimes I also feel like maru is seventeen layers deep in reverse psychology thinking "they will never expect me to cheese them twice in a row because Ive already done that 16 times and I am way better in a macro game". Meanwhile the rest just thinks that maru cheeses often. That's nonsense, Maru dominated via his proxies Proleague(best player), 3 consecutive Code S titles. What you're saying doesn't make any sense. Also now it's knowing others too well, e.g. sOs vs Maru at Blizzcon. He knew what Maru was doing even maybe before Maru did it. Let's face it, if anybody would say they're the Terran and blame the Protoss from maphacking many would be considering it  | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:16 Harris1st wrote: Well, Special is pretty good and Puck may have cheesed his way to the wins. Pity that none of these were on stream lol your post makes it seem like Puck is some scrub who has to cheese his way to victory against some premier tournament debutante | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:32 Fango wrote: It's been that way for years. In the iem qualifier last year he was outplaying Gumiho so hard but lost the series 2-3 by failing so many proxies. The blizzcon match against sOs is probably the prime example. sOs was struggling to beat HeroMarine in macro games and Maru still tries to proxy every game I dunno, it also goes the other way around. Like last year's first Code S where KeeN defeated him decisively and looked much the better player in their first series, and the Maru won the rematch by just proxy-raxing On March 11 2019 22:40 deacon.frost wrote: That's nonsense, Maru dominated via his proxies Proleague(best player), 3 consecutive Code S titles. What you're saying doesn't make any sense. Also now it's knowing others too well, e.g. sOs vs Maru at Blizzcon. He knew what Maru was doing even maybe before Maru did it. Let's face it, if anybody would say they're the Terran and blame the Protoss from maphacking many would be considering it +1 | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7162 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:41 Harris1st wrote: Group A-D is done and there is absolutely zero suprises of who advanced i dont know man i couldve imagined showtime advancing over neeb, and has advancing over elazer | ||
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thickertom
China612 Posts
B: 1st MaNa, 2nd Lambo C: 1st Maru, 2nd Special D: 1st Dark, 2nd Elazer MeoMaika 1-2 Special and 1-2 puCK ... | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:41 sneakyfox wrote: I dunno, it also goes the other way around. Like last year's first Code S where KeeN defeated him decisively and looked much the better player in their first series, and the Maru won the rematch by just proxy-raxing Artosis exaggerated the hell out of how much Keen beat him in the first series. It wasn't like he won long macro games, one was a crazy basetrade at like 7 minutes or something, and in the other Maru went for fast 3CC and lost to early cyclone aggression. Even in that second game he almost came back from what was otherwise a dead position by just being a better macro player than Keen. A better example would be the WeSG final against Dark last year. Dark went up 3-2, winning 3/4 of the lategames, then Maru proxied two maps in a row to win 4-3 | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:47 xelnaga_empire wrote: Did Maru get through? Liquipedia isn't updating. Yes, Maru and SpeCial advanced from Group C. | ||
Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:49 Waxangel wrote: Welp Has didn't get through, time to cancel the tournament boys :[ Impossible to outshine Code S without him | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:43 BerserkSword wrote: i dont know man i couldve imagined showtime advancing over neeb, and has advancing over elazer Those are hardly surprises, the bigget upset of the day was Maru losing against Meomaika, but it did no harm in the end. If Inno wins his group there is a good chanche of Serral vs Koreans happening as early as ro8; unless the draw is predetermined, moreover, there is a whopping 15% of Maru-Serral eventually taking place. | ||
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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:41 sneakyfox wrote: I dunno, it also goes the other way around. Like last year's first Code S where KeeN defeated him decisively and looked much the better player in their first series, and the Maru won the rematch by just proxy-raxing I remember this series. it was at the (short) time where mass cyclone was the only viable build in TvT. Maru apperantly wasnt aware of that. This had not a whole lot to do with being the better/lesser player. Proxy was the only way to avoid that. But technically your point stands. | ||
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Need
566 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:45 Fango wrote: Artosis exaggerated the hell out of how much Keen beat him in the first series. It wasn't like he won long macro games, one was a crazy basetrade at like 7 minutes or something, and in the other Maru went for fast 3CC and lost to early cyclone aggression. Even in that second game he almost came back from what was otherwise a dead position by just being a better macro player than Keen. Well, Leenock outplayed him pretty hard in a straight up macro game at IEM in game 1, and then Maru proceeded to do proxy rax in g2 and g3 giving him huge early advantage (which he threw away in g3), so people here who think they know better than Maru how he should play like... most probably don't. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:50 Xain0n wrote: Those are hardly surprises, the bigget upset of the day was Maru losing against Meomaika, but it did no harm in the end. If Inno wins his group there is a good chanche of Serral vs Koreans happening as early as ro8; unless the draw is predetermined, moreover, there is a whopping 15% of Maru-Serral eventually taking place. i must be the only nut wanting to see serral vs innovation instead of serral vs maru | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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