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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
March 02 2019 18:06 GMT
#1541
On March 03 2019 03:01 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:00 StasisField wrote:
When I saw the fourth hatch go down, I knew the game was over. Serral had to know that soO was going to attack him at +2/+1, he just had to. I don't understand the decision making in that last game

What should he have done to prevent that attack?

i think he should have made more roaches, considering he was monitoring soo's drone count very closely so he should have had an idea of how strong the attack would be
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 02 2019 18:06 GMT
#1542
On March 03 2019 03:04 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 Doko wrote:
rip about 12k viewers after serral lost


Will we lose more viewers from Serral going out or every Terran going out?

I will never understand why people cheer for a foreigner for no reason other than them being born outside of korea


why cheer for anyone... ?
unless you mean "why do people have bias for foreigners".

for me, there is a basis in the history of brood war and of starcraft 2. foreigners have always been underdogs, and I love rooting for underdogs

Serral isn't the underdog here.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 18:06 GMT
#1543
"Neeb is the last foreigner hope and Stats is really really really good at the video game."

Sounds about right.
Mine gas, build tanks.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 02 2019 18:07 GMT
#1544
On March 03 2019 03:05 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Now that Serral is gone, are we just gonna go back to 3-0 sweeps for this tournament. For whatever reason, Serral's existence in a game makes for entertaining, scrappy games.


he doesn't die to all ins and doesn't all in that much so it forces macro games most of the time. His play is not that entertaining (being super solid isn't fun to watch) but what he forces out of his opponent makes great games.
Zest fanboy.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 02 2019 18:07 GMT
#1545
On March 03 2019 03:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 02:57 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:53 hevvro wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:53 D-light wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:50 yht9657 wrote:
ENCE losing in both SC2 and CSGO, Finland on suicide watch

Yeah totally. A ro8 finish by Serral and a semifinals spot by ence makes us want to kill ourselves as they're incredible disappointments.


celebrating a ro8 for serral. this is the new norm

I mean losing in a close ro8 series isn't quite as bad as getting knocked out in the group stage (like Maru for example). It was sure to happen at some point, what's more of a question is if he keeps on struggling now like Neeb did in 2018.


Is that an alt for that herwo guy who got repeatedly banned from the results thread for yesterday?

Pretty sure you're right.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:07 GMT
#1546
On March 03 2019 03:06 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 StasisField wrote:
When I saw the fourth hatch go down, I knew the game was over. Serral had to know that soO was going to attack him at +2/+1, he just had to. I don't understand the decision making in that last game

What should he have done to prevent that attack?

i think he should have made more roaches, considering he was monitoring soo's drone count very closely so he should have had an idea of how strong the attack would be

wait your telling me the way to win zvz is to make more roaches? I wonder why Serral didn't think of that weird
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 02 2019 18:07 GMT
#1547
Yeah best player usually has the most entertaining games. I remember in 2017, INnoVation had many of the best games and in 2018, Serral had many too. Dark and TY kind of play interesting macro styles so they also have a lot of really good games.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 18:07 GMT
#1548
On March 03 2019 03:05 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:03 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 Doko wrote:
rip about 12k viewers after serral lost


Will we lose more viewers from Serral going out or every Terran going out?

I will never understand why people cheer for a foreigner for no reason other than them being born outside of korea


Because they've been the underdogs for 20 years.

sure but Serral hardly is an underdog anymore


Yeah, and look what I said earlier in this thread:

On March 03 2019 01:21 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
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On March 03 2019 01:13 HolydaKing wrote:
If Serral loses idk who to cheer for, I'd love to see soO, Solar or herO win and also like Stats.


I kinda want Serral to lose. I find predictability boring, and last year's Maru/Serral was only interesting in the promised confrontation at Blizzcon. Then Maru choked.

Never been in this position with regards to a foreigner though, so that's funny.

I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
March 02 2019 18:08 GMT
#1549
On March 03 2019 03:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:04 travis wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 Doko wrote:
rip about 12k viewers after serral lost


Will we lose more viewers from Serral going out or every Terran going out?

I will never understand why people cheer for a foreigner for no reason other than them being born outside of korea


why cheer for anyone... ?
unless you mean "why do people have bias for foreigners".

for me, there is a basis in the history of brood war and of starcraft 2. foreigners have always been underdogs, and I love rooting for underdogs

Serral certainly isn't an underdog right now

i think it's pretty normal to continue cheering for the underdog that starts to have success, once you have established that kind of connection
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 02 2019 18:08 GMT
#1550
On March 03 2019 03:07 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:06 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 StasisField wrote:
When I saw the fourth hatch go down, I knew the game was over. Serral had to know that soO was going to attack him at +2/+1, he just had to. I don't understand the decision making in that last game

What should he have done to prevent that attack?

i think he should have made more roaches, considering he was monitoring soo's drone count very closely so he should have had an idea of how strong the attack would be

wait your telling me the way to win zvz is to make more roaches? I wonder why Serral didn't think of that weird

Because he's a patch zerg, was winning at the 2nd half of the year and now he can't even get to the finals. Similarly to Rogue.

I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1551
On March 03 2019 03:07 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:06 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 StasisField wrote:
When I saw the fourth hatch go down, I knew the game was over. Serral had to know that soO was going to attack him at +2/+1, he just had to. I don't understand the decision making in that last game

What should he have done to prevent that attack?

i think he should have made more roaches, considering he was monitoring soo's drone count very closely so he should have had an idea of how strong the attack would be

wait your telling me the way to win zvz is to make more roaches? I wonder why Serral didn't think of that weird


i guess i made it sound funny considering the meme, but did you get the point i was trying to make or was it too unclear?
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1552
On March 03 2019 03:07 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:06 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 StasisField wrote:
When I saw the fourth hatch go down, I knew the game was over. Serral had to know that soO was going to attack him at +2/+1, he just had to. I don't understand the decision making in that last game

What should he have done to prevent that attack?

i think he should have made more roaches, considering he was monitoring soo's drone count very closely so he should have had an idea of how strong the attack would be

wait your telling me the way to win zvz is to make more roaches? I wonder why Serral didn't think of that weird

Someone should probably tell Serral this. Why didn't he just go straight for the roach warren at like 20 supply?
Mine gas, build tanks.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1553
On March 03 2019 03:08 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:07 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:06 GoloSC2 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:01 DBooN wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 StasisField wrote:
When I saw the fourth hatch go down, I knew the game was over. Serral had to know that soO was going to attack him at +2/+1, he just had to. I don't understand the decision making in that last game

What should he have done to prevent that attack?

i think he should have made more roaches, considering he was monitoring soo's drone count very closely so he should have had an idea of how strong the attack would be

wait your telling me the way to win zvz is to make more roaches? I wonder why Serral didn't think of that weird

Because he's a patch zerg, was winning at the 2nd half of the year and now he can't even get to the finals. Similarly to Rogue.


yeah when is the team liquid article calling Serral a patch zerg coming out? /s
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1554
On March 03 2019 03:08 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:04 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:04 travis wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 Doko wrote:
rip about 12k viewers after serral lost


Will we lose more viewers from Serral going out or every Terran going out?

I will never understand why people cheer for a foreigner for no reason other than them being born outside of korea


why cheer for anyone... ?
unless you mean "why do people have bias for foreigners".

for me, there is a basis in the history of brood war and of starcraft 2. foreigners have always been underdogs, and I love rooting for underdogs

Serral certainly isn't an underdog right now

i think it's pretty normal to continue cheering for the underdog that starts to have success, once you have established that kind of connection

by that definition every korean was an underdog too at one point so there shouldn't be more people cheering for Serral
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
LittlePox
Profile Joined August 2016
23 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1555
On March 03 2019 03:01 ubikz wrote:
has soo always been so good at zvz?


Always.

When he was at this greatest shape, his zvz was 80%.
He won his only premier event champion over Dark, which is also a consistent top-tier zerg.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1556
I'm just glad that this tournament showed how much of patch terrans maru and innovation really are
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1557
On March 03 2019 03:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:59 Uberfather wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:57 yht9657 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 Doko wrote:
rip about 12k viewers after serral lost


Will we lose more viewers from Serral going out or every Terran going out?

After TY lost the stream lost about 6k viewers, so not even close.


And how many after serral lost? is the 12k figure factual?

Mainstream down from 50k to 38k +other language streams

has nothing to do with the break there's now

Now the break is over and its down to 35k

I think bigger problem will be. How they are going to get csgo crowd hyped? At least they know ENCE.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1558
wowohoh wohohoh aye
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
March 02 2019 18:09 GMT
#1559
Go Stats !
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 02 2019 18:10 GMT
#1560
On March 03 2019 03:03 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:01 Penev wrote:
This is a great tournament with a great format except for the final day is a bit of an anti climax with just 3 games that are played too early as well

and I just know herO is going to protoss the shit out of soO


Shame that they aren't even earlier, I have to leave around noon. Well, I could let other people drive and watch, but I am not sure that would be a good opener to 5 days of social interaction with said people ...

well I guess not seeing herO protossing the shit out of soO isn't a bad thing

travelling between poland and czech republic again?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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