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On March 03 2019 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:58 Elentos wrote:On March 03 2019 00:55 Fango wrote:On March 03 2019 00:53 yht9657 wrote:On March 03 2019 00:52 Elentos wrote:
Remember when PvP made sense? We just watched people make some colossi and then they player who managed his fights better won. Now there's just a bunch of stupid shit happening and I'm almost certain a lot of the times the players don't know if they're winning or why they won. HoTS PvP made sense but those deathball fights were boring af tbh. It had a lot of skill though. Players like Zest, Classic, sOs, and herO had great consistency and a clear tier between them. I think people like to overstate how boring it was because of FUCKING LASERS. There was some pretty cool and sometimes intricate stuff involved in actually managing the fights properly. That gave some consistency to it which is lacking now to the point where Stats can lose to MC in Code S (in sad fashion) but a few weeks later have the best PvP in the world. HotS PvP was better than WoL PvP, but it was still the worst mirror unless Roaches were involved.
PvP is still the worst mirror in LotV but now ZvZ is better than TvT a lot of the time. Some things change, others don't 
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Canada8989 Posts
On March 03 2019 00:58 MarianoSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:57 Nakajin wrote:On March 03 2019 00:56 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Yes, as expected. A trash cheeser long past his prime, who barely made it from the qualifier (lost to foreigner who is not Neeb or Serral), and barely made it from the group, has a free ticket to the RO4 because he faces even bigger noobs in their worst matchups.
I only hope that we get really fast games like these first 2 to end the suffering of this tournament as soon as possible.
If Trap, herO and Dear are noob, who's not? Dear is the worst PvP player of all time, and Trap is also terrible in this MU (and probably caught the Katowice Jinair virus as well)...
He has a solid 58% pvp and 2-0 sOs this tournament...
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On March 03 2019 01:02 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:58 MarianoSC2 wrote:On March 03 2019 00:57 Nakajin wrote:On March 03 2019 00:56 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Yes, as expected. A trash cheeser long past his prime, who barely made it from the qualifier (lost to foreigner who is not Neeb or Serral), and barely made it from the group, has a free ticket to the RO4 because he faces even bigger noobs in their worst matchups.
I only hope that we get really fast games like these first 2 to end the suffering of this tournament as soon as possible.
If Trap, herO and Dear are noob, who's not? Dear is the worst PvP player of all time, and Trap is also terrible in this MU (and probably caught the Katowice Jinair virus as well)... He has a solid 58% pvp and 2-0 sOs this tournament...
As you can tell from his post, Jin Air players at Katowice are actually gold league players so they don't count.
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On March 03 2019 01:01 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On March 03 2019 00:58 Elentos wrote:On March 03 2019 00:55 Fango wrote:On March 03 2019 00:53 yht9657 wrote:On March 03 2019 00:52 Elentos wrote:
Remember when PvP made sense? We just watched people make some colossi and then they player who managed his fights better won. Now there's just a bunch of stupid shit happening and I'm almost certain a lot of the times the players don't know if they're winning or why they won. HoTS PvP made sense but those deathball fights were boring af tbh. It had a lot of skill though. Players like Zest, Classic, sOs, and herO had great consistency and a clear tier between them. I think people like to overstate how boring it was because of FUCKING LASERS. There was some pretty cool and sometimes intricate stuff involved in actually managing the fights properly. That gave some consistency to it which is lacking now to the point where Stats can lose to MC in Code S (in sad fashion) but a few weeks later have the best PvP in the world. HotS PvP was better than WoL PvP, but it was still the worst mirror unless Roaches were involved. Boring to look at, but had a lot of strategic depth and skill to it.
I heard that theory
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On March 03 2019 01:01 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On March 03 2019 00:58 Elentos wrote:On March 03 2019 00:55 Fango wrote:On March 03 2019 00:53 yht9657 wrote:On March 03 2019 00:52 Elentos wrote:
Remember when PvP made sense? We just watched people make some colossi and then they player who managed his fights better won. Now there's just a bunch of stupid shit happening and I'm almost certain a lot of the times the players don't know if they're winning or why they won. HoTS PvP made sense but those deathball fights were boring af tbh. It had a lot of skill though. Players like Zest, Classic, sOs, and herO had great consistency and a clear tier between them. I think people like to overstate how boring it was because of FUCKING LASERS. There was some pretty cool and sometimes intricate stuff involved in actually managing the fights properly. That gave some consistency to it which is lacking now to the point where Stats can lose to MC in Code S (in sad fashion) but a few weeks later have the best PvP in the world. HotS PvP was better than WoL PvP, but it was still the worst mirror unless Roaches were involved. PvP is still the worst mirror in LotV but now ZvZ is better than TvT a lot of the time. Some things change, others don't
ZvZ has just been overplayed to a disgusting amount that people understand the intricacies of it. And it's overplayed by the foreigners mostly so people still watch it.
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On March 03 2019 01:01 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On March 03 2019 00:58 Elentos wrote:On March 03 2019 00:55 Fango wrote:On March 03 2019 00:53 yht9657 wrote:On March 03 2019 00:52 Elentos wrote:
Remember when PvP made sense? We just watched people make some colossi and then they player who managed his fights better won. Now there's just a bunch of stupid shit happening and I'm almost certain a lot of the times the players don't know if they're winning or why they won. HoTS PvP made sense but those deathball fights were boring af tbh. It had a lot of skill though. Players like Zest, Classic, sOs, and herO had great consistency and a clear tier between them. I think people like to overstate how boring it was because of FUCKING LASERS. There was some pretty cool and sometimes intricate stuff involved in actually managing the fights properly. That gave some consistency to it which is lacking now to the point where Stats can lose to MC in Code S (in sad fashion) but a few weeks later have the best PvP in the world. HotS PvP was better than WoL PvP, but it was still the worst mirror unless Roaches were involved. Boring to look at, but had a lot of strategic depth and skill to it.
In some phases of the game. Getting a good arc on colossi is not the achievement that every HotS caster made it out to be.
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Still mind-boggling that the furthest a Jin Air player got to this tournament was Trap in the ro12
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Have to give it to herO for not brainfarting when faced with farily normal games
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On March 03 2019 01:03 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 01:01 Elentos wrote:On March 03 2019 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On March 03 2019 00:58 Elentos wrote:On March 03 2019 00:55 Fango wrote:On March 03 2019 00:53 yht9657 wrote:On March 03 2019 00:52 Elentos wrote:
Remember when PvP made sense? We just watched people make some colossi and then they player who managed his fights better won. Now there's just a bunch of stupid shit happening and I'm almost certain a lot of the times the players don't know if they're winning or why they won. HoTS PvP made sense but those deathball fights were boring af tbh. It had a lot of skill though. Players like Zest, Classic, sOs, and herO had great consistency and a clear tier between them. I think people like to overstate how boring it was because of FUCKING LASERS. There was some pretty cool and sometimes intricate stuff involved in actually managing the fights properly. That gave some consistency to it which is lacking now to the point where Stats can lose to MC in Code S (in sad fashion) but a few weeks later have the best PvP in the world. HotS PvP was better than WoL PvP, but it was still the worst mirror unless Roaches were involved. PvP is still the worst mirror in LotV but now ZvZ is better than TvT a lot of the time. Some things change, others don't ZvZ has just been overplayed to a disgusting amount that people understand the intricacies of it. And it's overplayed by the foreigners mostly so people still watch it.
I still find 90% of zvz games to be incredibly boring
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Honestly how could Dear think that not retreating from the adepts was going to be okay
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On March 03 2019 01:05 Akio wrote:
Still mind-boggling that the furthest a Jin Air player got to this tournament was Trap in the ro12
Trap usually performs at Katowice. Last year he was close to 3-0'ing Serral
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This series surely made me confident in my total inability to understand PvP.
This was.... weird.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On March 03 2019 01:07 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
This series surely made me confident in my total inability to understand PvP.
This was.... weird.
I see why i had Has vibes, i guess.
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Well I hope hero gets at least some flashbacks in spodek arena tomorrow
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