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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 14:57:54
March 02 2019 14:56 GMT
#621
TY was a bit predictable with his mine placement and quite often banes were blowing them up without firing a shot (on top of doing a good job clearing the front ones).

Probably could've used more mine production too and missile turrets/bunkers, there was no way he was ever getting out of his 5 base defensive posture without solar throwing away some of his army anyway.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 02 2019 14:57 GMT
#622
Why doesn't TY go for BCs, I mean he's like the first Terran player to start using them in TvZ.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28518 Posts
March 02 2019 14:57 GMT
#623
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

so bring back steppes of war as was previously proposed

still also buff whines and bunker build time I'd say
I Protoss winner, could it be?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
March 02 2019 14:57 GMT
#624
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

It's so much easier to make mistakes as a terran though.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
skdsk
Profile Joined February 2019
138 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#625
On March 02 2019 23:56 Doko wrote:
TY was a bit predictable with his mine placement and quite often banes were blowing them up without firing a shot (on top of doing a good job clearing the front ones).

Probably could've used more mine production too and missile turrets, there was no way he was ever getting out of his 5 base defensive posture without solar throwing away some of his army anyway.

bio honestly felt useless in that game once ultras hit the field...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#626
On March 02 2019 23:57 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

so bring back steppes of war as was previously proposed

still also buff whines and bunker build time I'd say


Bring back island base map
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Achamian
Profile Joined May 2017
82 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#627
Id like to see TY only focus on stopping the creep, and go for a strong push later. Solar is just going to drone away despite the harass
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#628
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

That would be reasonable. But you know how it has to be.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#629
On March 02 2019 23:58 skdsk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:56 Doko wrote:
TY was a bit predictable with his mine placement and quite often banes were blowing them up without firing a shot (on top of doing a good job clearing the front ones).

Probably could've used more mine production too and missile turrets, there was no way he was ever getting out of his 5 base defensive posture without solar throwing away some of his army anyway.

bio honestly felt useless in that game once ultras hit the field...

we 2016 boys
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#630
On March 02 2019 23:57 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

It's so much easier to make mistakes as a terran though.

Because Terran players think about how to whine more than how to avoid mistakes?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#631
One billion mutas inc
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 02 2019 14:58 GMT
#632
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

So all of the Terran players make mistakes but Zerg and Protoss players are immaculate in their play?
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#633
On March 02 2019 23:58 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

That would be reasonable. But you know how it has to be.

dont worry, he was trolling, he always is
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#634
On March 02 2019 23:56 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.


**Maru calls down a mule on an already dead bunker**

"OMG PROTOSSED"

exactly, Protoss and Zerg players are just better
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
March 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#635
On March 02 2019 23:55 RampancyTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:52 Jerom wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
To be honest i can't even tell why TY just rolls over and dies, i truly have not been keeping up with the game.

Can anyone tell? He was presplit, presieged and had an upgrade advantage. The micro from solar didn't seem like anything special either but he still just dies. I don't understand how that can happen.
Forgetting +3 attack was pretty big, it finished right as the fight had ended and would have made a big difference vs. the Ultras. Additionally no +1 attack on the tanks meant that they couldn't 1-shot banelings... there was no meaningful upgrade advantage for TY despite the higher overall resource investment. Solar also focused heavily on units and kept forcing trades, preventing TY from reaching a safe critical mass and making composition adjustments.

The upgrade advantage wasn't large, but it was still there. Even at best, they were even on upgrades and Solar still just runs into a fortified terran base. It made no sense to me personally. Like, if Zerg catches terran unsieged or moving out in the open or has a triple flank then it makes sense that terran dies, but to see terran die when the game seems about even and he's just totally turtled up.

The only explanation I can see is the casters curse being stronger, as demuslim just mentioned that "it's so hard to break terrans that play like this" seconds before Solar amoved to break TY.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#636
On March 02 2019 23:58 skdsk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:56 Doko wrote:
TY was a bit predictable with his mine placement and quite often banes were blowing them up without firing a shot (on top of doing a good job clearing the front ones).

Probably could've used more mine production too and missile turrets, there was no way he was ever getting out of his 5 base defensive posture without solar throwing away some of his army anyway.

bio honestly felt useless in that game once ultras hit the field...


solar did a great job adding corruptors and continuously hunting the libs Ty did make after the marine count was obliterated after every wave hit TY's front.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
March 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#637
On March 02 2019 23:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:58 virpi wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

That would be reasonable. But you know how it has to be.

dont worry, he was trolling, he always is

Is he though?
first we make expand, then we defense it.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
March 02 2019 15:00 GMT
#638
On March 02 2019 23:58 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 23:57 nojok wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:55 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 02 2019 23:54 virpi wrote:
Before we talk about balance patches, we could also think about the maps. BW style.

or about all the mistakes all the terran players here make.

It's so much easier to make mistakes as a terran though.

Because Terran players think about how to whine more than how to avoid mistakes?

I've not seen the pros whining so your agument is invalid.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2019 15:01 GMT
#639
A wonderful day of 3-0's and mirror matchups
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
March 02 2019 15:01 GMT
#640
Ty is looking pretty dead.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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