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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
February 28 2019 13:31 GMT
#161
really sad for Creator after his rock-solid games vs Reynor
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 28 2019 13:32 GMT
#162
and don't pulling the bois again juan you are not out of marines wtf ???
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 28 2019 13:33 GMT
#163
A: Special vs. Zest
B: hero vs. Patience
C: Creator vs. Stats
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2019 13:34 GMT
#164
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 28 2019 13:34 GMT
#165
Stats and Zest cleaning house so far. The surprise of the group is that there is no surprise
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 28 2019 13:35 GMT
#166
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.


That's quite the extortion right here
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 13:40:11
February 28 2019 13:37 GMT
#167
zest got his revenge against patience and here i thought patience is the best pvp for the time being
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 28 2019 13:37 GMT
#168
Is kalearis seeing the end of esports realistically and preparing for his future career in pro wrestling? His has become quite buff!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
February 28 2019 13:39 GMT
#169
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 28 2019 13:41 GMT
#170
On February 28 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.


I think you vastly underestimate how stupid people are
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 28 2019 13:42 GMT
#171
On February 28 2019 22:34 sneakyfox wrote:
Stats and Zest cleaning house so far. The surprise of the group is that there is no surprise

hopefully next group is more exciting
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
February 28 2019 13:42 GMT
#172
On February 28 2019 22:41 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.


I think you vastly underestimate how stupid people are

you mean...people playing the game and not realizing skins exist?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 28 2019 13:43 GMT
#173
lol ex KT boys kicking ass and taking names! Hell yeah!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2019 13:43 GMT
#174
On February 28 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.


The whole point of financing esport is that people see a game then want to play it/ spend money on it, I freaking hope it work because if not this is going nowhere.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 28 2019 13:44 GMT
#175
On February 28 2019 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:41 opisska wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.


I think you vastly underestimate how stupid people are

you mean...people playing the game and not realizing skins exist?


Well, that's one of many options. But just look around and see how many "pointless" ads campaigns exist - but corporations aren't stupid, so those still likely make money. The amount of people who see it here and want it as well cannot be underestimated.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 28 2019 13:50 GMT
#176
On February 28 2019 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:41 opisska wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.


I think you vastly underestimate how stupid people are

you mean...people playing the game and not realizing skins exist?


There are a lot of coop/arcade players, more than ladder players according to TotalBiscuit.
TL+ Member
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 13:57:10
February 28 2019 13:57 GMT
#177
On February 28 2019 22:44 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:41 opisska wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:34 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:25 Nakajin wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:23 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 28 2019 22:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
So... Couldn't tell if those were stalkers or immortals... Skins....

Isn't it nice that we spectators can now get the enjoyment of seeing those cool shiny skins without it affecting the players?
Great move by Blizzard!

Yes it's nice, that mean we might actually not get our head chop up at the end of the year

Only if the theory that forcing viewers to see those skins makes them buy them turns out to be true.
I'm inclined to believe people who want to buy skins buy them anyway and people who don't, won't suddenly do it just because they see them in tournaments.
Also there's the potential viewer loss due to those skins.


It's better to sell more skins than to have more viewers, and I can't see why knowing that skins exist make you want not to buy it.
The message from Blizz is that if the Warchest stop selling they stop financing the esport scene, at least it's what most of the caster/community member were told, so let's just live with a single bad skin and some nice one.

I think you misread. I don't think this makes players not want to buy it, but everyone who plays the game already knows that skins exist so I don't really see the point of forcing them into tournaments when every potential consumer is already aware that skins exist and buys them if they like them. I really don't think it makes a difference for how much skins get sold.


I think you vastly underestimate how stupid people are

you mean...people playing the game and not realizing skins exist?


Well, that's one of many options. But just look around and see how many "pointless" ads campaigns exist - but corporations aren't stupid, so those still likely make money. The amount of people who see it here and want it as well cannot be underestimated.


I don't want to get in this fight, especially because I think these skins actually look good and showing them won't do no harm, but saying that corporations aren't stupid is a really hot take
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
February 28 2019 13:59 GMT
#178
Ads work. Companies wouldn't spend millions in them if they weren't effective. Their return on interest (ROI) is measured and tracked very closely since we're talking about huge investments here.
As mush as we (consumers) hate them, that doesn't change the simple fact that ads do work. If they didn't, the problem would be simpler.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 28 2019 14:01 GMT
#179
oh shit...again ??
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 28 2019 14:01 GMT
#180
not repairing there was a big oof
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