EPTOn October 29 2018 05:56 Luolis wrote:
TvZ is harder than TvP though? And Lambo took a map off him :D
TvZ is harder than TvP though? And Lambo took a map off him :D
i still have more faith in TY's tvz than his tvp
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
i still have more faith in TY's tvz than his tvp | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:54 Z3nith wrote: I absolutely despise the proxy meta and let's be real if it was the other way around there would be a huge outcry. Imagine if Protoss went Cannon Rush or 4 Gate every game. There would be riots in the streets. Cannon rushes and 4 gates are too committal--with terran proxies you get a chance to kill your opponent, but also get a nice transition out of it as long as you do enough damage (or if you do a little damage and your opponent is Neeb I guess). | ||
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Luolis
Finland7114 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:56 JoeCool wrote: I don't know, you should always take into consideration that these players have good and bad days. So neither do we know if this is TYs final form, nor do we know if Serral will perfom as well as yesterday. I'm speaking about the whole event. I haven't seen a single map from TY that makes me think "wow, he's playing well". It's been really underwhelming. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:53 Nakajin wrote: SC2 has become to good, before stopping a late pure stalker move out with burrow was a genius play, now if you miss micro a void ray on an all in it's a horrible throw. See my "game is too fast" thread | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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Elentos
55553 Posts
Yeah it was only the 3rd biggest pile of garbage today. And also I think TY deserves a lot of credit for game 2. | ||
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Elentos
55553 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:57 Luolis wrote: I'm speaking about the whole event. I haven't seen a single map from TY that makes me think "wow, he's playing well". It's been really underwhelming. He's under the weather from travelling as with all foreign events he goes to. But his next match is days away, he'll probably look better by then. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Not that I am complaining that they have sped it up today, but it means that the delays are NOT deliberate as some tried to claim and are purely due to their incapability to run it better. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:57 starkiller123 wrote: i still have more faith in TY's tvz than his tvp I do too. In fact the only reason why TvP is so cheese heavy now is because of how hard Terrans think it is to win in macro games vs Protoss. Cheese builds by their very nature carry enormous risk that no top tier pro wants to take on EVERY game unless they feel like they have to. If TY felt confident in his TvP standard play he wouldnt be proxying EVERY game. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:57 Luolis wrote: I'm speaking about the whole event. I haven't seen a single map from TY that makes me think "wow, he's playing well". It's been really underwhelming. Is TvP really harder than TvZ? I wouldn't think so. Either way, TY does not llike TvP at all. The finals are next week so there is a lot more time to get well (TY is ill) and to settle into the new surroundings. I expect him to play better in the quarterfinals, but the opponents are obviously strong too. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:59 starkiller123 wrote: ah shoutout to the true dead game that never lived in the first place, heroes of the storm Is it still crawling along on half a leg? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:59 starkiller123 wrote: ah shoutout to the true dead game that never lived in the first place, heroes of the storm Get out of here with that. HoTS actually has had better e-sports viewership by hours watched than SC2 has this year. Also the game itself is still thriving and is tons of fun. The dead game meme is the only thing that is actually dead. | ||
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Xamo
Spain880 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On October 29 2018 06:01 Xamo wrote: I have missed TY vs Neeb game 2... worth to watch or another Neeb throw? Yes because of how cool TY's defense was. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:54 -Kyo- wrote: One of the worst series I've seen in a while. While as a protoss I know how hard some of the transition points are (such as adding gates at the correct time while dealing with the harass and expanding) the performance here from neeb was really lacking for his level and was super tunnel visioned. I really feel for him because I feel like he honestly had the 2-0 in this series if he had simply just played more clean. Once he was supply blocked on his 3rd VR i felt like all hope was lost. He couldn't pressure and his whole macro engine behind it was just off, especially for the damage he was supposed to be getting done. I really feel for him, but for that sort of play vs TY this is the result to be expected  rip Come one it wasn't "that" bad by Neeb and it's not like TY made glaring mistake at any point in the series. His macro didn't seem that bad to me probably not his best performance (the supply block really hurt him as you said and he had a hard time dealing with the harass but I feel like he had an ok performance and his game plan seemed pretty good for me in both games, he didn't bank that much money, he just miss read some situation, lost focus or was out of position. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On October 29 2018 06:00 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Is it still crawling along on half a leg? honestly i have no idea | ||
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Luolis
Finland7114 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:59 sneakyfox wrote: Is TvP really harder than TvZ? I wouldn't think so. Either way, TY does not llike TvP at all. The finals are next week so there is a lot more time to get well (TY is ill) and to settle into the new surroundings. I expect him to play better in the quarterfinals, but the opponents are obviously strong too. I don't think TvP is harder than TvZ at all. As for what comes to getting better, it's possible but i'm not sold on TY at all. Honestly felt like if Neeb didn't go full foreigner in map 1, he would be out now. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:54 Z3nith wrote: I absolutely despise the proxy meta and let's be real if it was the other way around there would be a huge outcry. Imagine if Protoss went Cannon Rush or 4 Gate every game. There would be riots in the streets. I do too, because if I defend this on the ladder(and most of the time I do), the game is my to lose. And I love to play long macro games. But Maru is the exception!  | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On October 29 2018 05:59 opisska wrote: So people here were wrong yesterday and Friday when they claimed that the delays are "as planned" and that they have to wait for the scheduled time, as today, they are just not doing that. If you look at the schedules shown on the screen, they are being constantly pushed forward as the games are too short. Not that I am complaining that they have sped it up today, but it means that the delays are NOT deliberate as some tried to claim and are purely due to their incapability to run it better. I was the one claiming it was like that on the first day. It was like that on the first day. | ||
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