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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 28 2018 17:11 GMT
#181
On October 29 2018 02:09 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:08 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:07 Musicus wrote:
Korean Terrans are just the hardest opponents by for for EU players. Nobody had it harder than Lambo at BlizzCon.

that happens when the best european terrans are special and uthermal (who isn't even at blizzcon)

I mean special is from NA, but even on the NA server you won't meet him, since he is always in Korea. Special is basically a korean Terran playing WCS :D.

that's true too.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 17:14:05
October 28 2018 17:12 GMT
#182
that zoom in on Lambo was a bit exaggerated...



Camerman is like "Do I see tears, are those tears? I have to make sure, zooooom, zoooooooooooom!"
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
October 28 2018 17:13 GMT
#183
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games
WriterMaru
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
October 28 2018 17:15 GMT
#184
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games


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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 17:17:06
October 28 2018 17:16 GMT
#185
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games

And that s very nice, but again, those 360 games include total nonames playing in challenger, and obviously some zergs who really struggle with it banned in in tournaments. It includes Serral bashing 6k gm players.

The map has a certain layout, and has certain mechanics. It favors terran against zerg, particularly it favors tanks with all those ridges that protect them, but they can comfortably shoot through them.
Most maps dont have those.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 17:17:56
October 28 2018 17:16 GMT
#186
I think (T)HeRoMaRinE is gonna win there.
(P)sOs looked trash against (Z)Serral, the best european terran has a shot against him as well

Btw, the no name argument doesn't mean much, because no names can get abused / abuse as well as top pros.
WriterMaru
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
October 28 2018 17:16 GMT
#187
Aight, time for my boy sOs. Let's go!
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 17:17:10
October 28 2018 17:16 GMT
#188
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Lots of space to proxy stuff on.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 17:18:10
October 28 2018 17:17 GMT
#189
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games


The problem wasn't the sample size, the problem was that the sample was awful. Adding more games doesn't change that. Anyone would tell you that Dreamcatcher favours terran.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10044 Posts
October 28 2018 17:17 GMT
#190
so big GABE should win this right? sOs looked like shit yesterday
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
October 28 2018 17:18 GMT
#191
What's the format for RO8? Is it group A vs group B/C/D?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 28 2018 17:18 GMT
#192
Now let's cheer for Big Gabe to win!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 28 2018 17:19 GMT
#193
On October 29 2018 02:18 TentativePanda wrote:
What's the format for RO8? Is it group A vs group B/C/D?


Randomized I believe (with players from the same group on opposite sides and first place finishers vs second place finishers as usual).
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
October 28 2018 17:20 GMT
#194
On October 29 2018 02:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:18 TentativePanda wrote:
What's the format for RO8? Is it group A vs group B/C/D?


Randomized I believe (with players from the same group on opposite sides and first place finishers vs second place finishers as usual).


Ah okay thanks! I hope Serral and Maru aren't on the same side of the bracket
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
October 28 2018 17:21 GMT
#195
On October 29 2018 02:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games


The problem wasn't the sample size, the problem was that the sample was awful. Adding more games doesn't change that. Anyone would tell you that Dreamcatcher favours terran.

Not really convinced, outside of the two tank push at the ridge it's not that good depending on the openings.
It slightly favors terran but not as much as para site favors zerg
WriterMaru
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 28 2018 17:21 GMT
#196
On October 29 2018 02:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games


The problem wasn't the sample size, the problem was that the sample was awful. Adding more games doesn't change that. Anyone would tell you that Dreamcatcher favours terran.



I thought the general consensus about Dreamcatcher is that it isn't as terran favoured as it initially seemed. It is still ofc, a good man for terran.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
October 28 2018 17:22 GMT
#197
On October 29 2018 02:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games


The problem wasn't the sample size, the problem was that the sample was awful. Adding more games doesn't change that. Anyone would tell you that Dreamcatcher favours terran.

Agreed. Statistics are only meaningful when they align with my opinion.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
October 28 2018 17:22 GMT
#198
On October 29 2018 02:17 Topin wrote:
so big GABE should win this right? sOs looked like shit yesterday


With players like sOs you never know...
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 28 2018 17:22 GMT
#199
On October 29 2018 02:12 Musicus wrote:
that zoom in on Lambo was a bit exaggerated...

https://twitter.com/esportstarcraft/status/1056594092484771840

Camerman is like "Do I see tears, are those tears? I have to make sure, zooooom, zoooooooooooom!"

The director must be Aeromi.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 28 2018 17:22 GMT
#200
Big Gabe hype!
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