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Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Poll: Stats vs HasStats Win (55) 82% Has Wins (12) 18% 67 total votes Your vote: Stats vs Has (Vote): Stats Win
(Vote): Has Wins
Poll: Dark vs ShoWTimEDark Wins (48) 74% ShoWTimE Wins (17) 26% 65 total votes Your vote: Dark vs ShoWTimE (Vote): Dark Wins
(Vote): ShoWTimE Wins
Poll: Classic vs NerchioClassic Wins (50) 77% Nerchio Wins (15) 23% 65 total votes Your vote: Classic vs Nerchio (Vote): Classic Wins
(Vote): Nerchio Wins
Poll: Rogue vs SpeCialSpeCial Wins (38) 53% Rogue Wins (34) 47% 72 total votes Your vote: Rogue vs SpeCial (Vote): Rogue Wins
(Vote): SpeCial Wins
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The main question in my mind for these matches is about which SpeCial and which Rogue will show up. At this point, I don't even know if I'd say I'd give Rogue the edge. Theoretically, I guess you'd say he "should" be favored, but if SpeCial is in full-on Blizzcon mode and Rogue is playing derpy again, it could even be a stomp for SpeCial, who knows?
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On October 27 2018 12:09 neutralrobot wrote:
The main question in my mind for these matches is about which SpeCial and which Rogue will show up. At this point, I don't even know if I'd say I'd give Rogue the edge. Theoretically, I guess you'd say he "should" be favored, but if SpeCial is in full-on Blizzcon mode and Rogue is playing derpy again, it could even be a stomp for SpeCial, who knows?
Yeah, I mean, rogue *should* win, but both of these guys have 2 different forms that can show up to a given tournament.
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So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket?
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Show your support for Lord of the Pylon Walls, the Holy Cannon, the Most Sanctified Oracle, Breaker of Kaelaris, Great Wolf of the East, Humbler of Tyrants and Protector of the Faith !!
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curious what nerchio will bring.
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On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket?
It seems over the last 2 years of Blizzcon the only thing guaranteed was that the #1 players in the group faces a #2 player in the bracket stage. So these two could meet in the semifinals already. That happened last year, Special was #1 in group A and soO was #1 in group B and these two played in the semifinals.
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On October 27 2018 16:06 ScrubbleS wrote:
curious what nerchio will bring.
Yep, no hype about him at all this year. Will he bomb out or surprise everyone?
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Todays games should be a lot closer than yesterday. Yesterday the big question was whether the heavy favorites gonna get sniped or just fold under the pressure put on them, and we got a resounding NO, both Maru and Serral bringing a clinic, some of the clearest 4-0s ever. Neeb beating TY 2-1 is comfortably within the realm of normal, even for those who predicted the double Korean T advancing, they probably still happy with their chances.
Im excited for pretty much all of these starting rounds (well, aside from Has, but at least it might be entertaining,right?), not to say they are toss-ups, but the margin is a lot thinner than yesterday. The biggest skill difference is Classic v nerchio, but that is supposedly Classics weak MU, so it s still interesting.
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On October 27 2018 16:45 Musicus wrote:Yep, no hype about him at all this year. Will he bomb out or surprise everyone?
Both Showtime and Nerchio are solid enough to potentially make it close or even win. I don't think their chances are much worse than those of Special. Although Showtime doesn't look very good in PvZ vs the good European Zergs so I don't expect him to win at all, but he's really good sometimes.
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On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket?
I couldnt find a bracket either, but im 90% sure they re starting on the different ends of it, it just makes sense.
Last year was>
A1 - C2
B1 - D2
C1 - B2
D1 - A2
That seems a bit random, not sure if it was RNG draw or they determined this way.
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On October 27 2018 16:53 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket? I couldnt find a bracket either, but im 90% sure they re starting on the different ends of it, it just makes sense. Last year was> A1 - C2 B1 - D2 C1 - B2 D1 - A2 That seems a bit random, not sure if it was RNG draw or they determined this way.
I hope so. It would be disappointing if Maru and Serral met before the finals (assuming both of them can get there).
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On October 27 2018 16:55 xelnaga_empire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 16:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket? I couldnt find a bracket either, but im 90% sure they re starting on the different ends of it, it just makes sense. Last year was> A1 - C2 B1 - D2 C1 - B2 D1 - A2 That seems a bit random, not sure if it was RNG draw or they determined this way. I hope so. It would be disappointing if Maru and Serral met before the finals (assuming both of them can get there).
agree, i hope for a maru serral final
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On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket?
50/50 chance they meet before finals (if they get so far)
Group 1st meets 2nd. Who meets who is random.
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If you think Blizzard is going to put the most anticipated match-up together before the finals, i have an island to sell you.
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On October 27 2018 16:55 xelnaga_empire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 16:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket? I couldnt find a bracket either, but im 90% sure they re starting on the different ends of it, it just makes sense. Last year was> A1 - C2 B1 - D2 C1 - B2 D1 - A2 That seems a bit random, not sure if it was RNG draw or they determined this way. I hope so. It would be disappointing if Maru and Serral met before the finals (assuming both of them can get there).
What's better? them meeting before the finals or them not meeting at all?
People act like nobody can beat them, it's not at all guaranteed that they will beat everyone else.
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On October 27 2018 17:46 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 16:55 xelnaga_empire wrote:On October 27 2018 16:53 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 27 2018 14:56 xelnaga_empire wrote:
So will Maru be on Serral's side of the bracket in the playoffs? Because it would sucks if they had to meet before the finals. The best is if Maru and Serral are on opposite sides of the bracket so they can meet in the finals.
But when I look at the playoff bracket on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon website, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anybody know if Maru and Serral will be on the same half the bracket in the playoffs or on the opposite half of the bracket? I couldnt find a bracket either, but im 90% sure they re starting on the different ends of it, it just makes sense. Last year was> A1 - C2 B1 - D2 C1 - B2 D1 - A2 That seems a bit random, not sure if it was RNG draw or they determined this way. I hope so. It would be disappointing if Maru and Serral met before the finals (assuming both of them can get there). What's better? them meeting before the finals or them not meeting at all? People act like nobody can beat them, it's not at all guaranteed that they will beat everyone else.
^this
rooting for a Maru vs Classic final 
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When are they playing the decider matchers in each group? At BlizzCon or sunday?
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On October 27 2018 17:55 Heartland wrote:
When are they playing the decider matchers in each group? At BlizzCon or sunday?
on sunday
 2018 WCS Global Finals
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On October 27 2018 17:55 Heartland wrote:
When are they playing the decider matchers in each group? At BlizzCon or sunday?
Sunday.
They start by playing all the losers matches, then all the decider matches.
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It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR!
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I have a strong feeling that Nerchio will not prepare at all and just play his standard games and lose. In the old days he used to mix so many cool builds, but now every game of his looks exactly the same.
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On October 27 2018 18:27 opisska wrote:
It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR!
It's already expected, given that Serral has a very good ZvP win rate. No surprises there. What I didn't expect is that he would 2-0 sOs. Against Zest, we already know Zest's PvZ is bad.
Just want to ask though, who is King Arthur? Sorry if I don't know him.
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Iam sorry but Dark is gonna roflstomp Showtime as he did with Neeb many times.
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With Serral out of the way, I'm ready for some foreigners being slain.
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So for tonight I'll have my unpainted 40k miniatures ready, just in case we'll have 4+ hours of downtime/talking again.
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my two favourite players right against each other 
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On October 27 2018 15:29 Kaizor wrote:
Show your support for Lord of the Pylon Walls, the Holy Cannon, the Most Sanctified Oracle, Breaker of Kaelaris, Great Wolf of the East, Humbler of Tyrants and Protector of the Faith !! I'm cheering for Has too! He always makes his opponents sweat.
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Showtime and Dark both confirmed sick :D
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On October 27 2018 20:54 Terra1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 18:27 opisska wrote:
It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR! It's already expected, given that Serral has a very good ZvP win rate. No surprises there. What I didn't expect is that he would 2-0 sOs. Against Zest, we already know Zest's PvZ is bad. Just want to ask though, who is King Arthur? Sorry if I don't know him.
An SC2 progamer who benevolently rules over the Kingdom of Poland from the top floor of a skyscraper in Warsaw in his precious valuable spare time between practice.
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On October 27 2018 22:03 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 20:54 Terra1 wrote:On October 27 2018 18:27 opisska wrote:
It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR! It's already expected, given that Serral has a very good ZvP win rate. No surprises there. What I didn't expect is that he would 2-0 sOs. Against Zest, we already know Zest's PvZ is bad. Just want to ask though, who is King Arthur? Sorry if I don't know him. An SC2 progamer who benevolently rules over the Kingdom of Poland from the top floor of a skyscraper in Warsaw in his precious valuable spare time between practice. Too bad he doesn't rule in Anaheim.
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On October 27 2018 22:15 Weavel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 22:03 opisska wrote:On October 27 2018 20:54 Terra1 wrote:On October 27 2018 18:27 opisska wrote:
It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR! It's already expected, given that Serral has a very good ZvP win rate. No surprises there. What I didn't expect is that he would 2-0 sOs. Against Zest, we already know Zest's PvZ is bad. Just want to ask though, who is King Arthur? Sorry if I don't know him. An SC2 progamer who benevolently rules over the Kingdom of Poland from the top floor of a skyscraper in Warsaw in his precious valuable spare time between practice. Too bad he doesn't rule in Anaheim. https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/1055954091841609731
Someone please tell him that if he is not warm enough from the practice itself, he should just practice harder!
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On October 27 2018 22:15 Weavel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 22:03 opisska wrote:On October 27 2018 20:54 Terra1 wrote:On October 27 2018 18:27 opisska wrote:
It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR! It's already expected, given that Serral has a very good ZvP win rate. No surprises there. What I didn't expect is that he would 2-0 sOs. Against Zest, we already know Zest's PvZ is bad. Just want to ask though, who is King Arthur? Sorry if I don't know him. An SC2 progamer who benevolently rules over the Kingdom of Poland from the top floor of a skyscraper in Warsaw in his precious valuable spare time between practice. Too bad he doesn't rule in Anaheim. https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/1055954091841609731
The technology just isn't there.
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On October 27 2018 22:16 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 22:15 Weavel wrote:On October 27 2018 22:03 opisska wrote:On October 27 2018 20:54 Terra1 wrote:On October 27 2018 18:27 opisska wrote:
It really is a shame that Serral ruined my all-korean agenda so early into the tournament. Now, with nothing to lose, I am rooting for KING ARTUR! It's already expected, given that Serral has a very good ZvP win rate. No surprises there. What I didn't expect is that he would 2-0 sOs. Against Zest, we already know Zest's PvZ is bad. Just want to ask though, who is King Arthur? Sorry if I don't know him. An SC2 progamer who benevolently rules over the Kingdom of Poland from the top floor of a skyscraper in Warsaw in his precious valuable spare time between practice. Too bad he doesn't rule in Anaheim. https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/1055954091841609731 Someone please tell him that if he is not warm enough from the practice itself, he should just practice harder!
He should practice against Has, it's sure to make him sweat
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United States33222 Posts
I'm pretty sure Has is going to die terribly, but I really hope he doesn't
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Canada8988 Posts
Damn talk about bad luck
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On October 27 2018 17:58 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 17:55 Heartland wrote:
When are they playing the decider matchers in each group? At BlizzCon or sunday? Sunday. They start by playing all the losers matches, then all the decider matches.
Thanks
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your Country52797 Posts
Man, I really hope Has pulls the miracle off.
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Not that surprising tbh, plane travel is the most secure way to get sick.
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No doubt Rogue has been very inconsistent in the second half of the year but I think everyone is sleeping on him. He has been the premier weekend tournament player in the world for the last couple of years. There is probably only 2 players in the world whose A game is capable of beating Maru / Serral and Rogue is one of those two. Rogues TvZ has been weak lately so I actually see him as a bigger dog again Maru than Serral. His ZvZ stats lately have been godlike.
When was the last time TY or Dark for example beat Maru / Serral in a Semi or Finals of a major tournament?
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On October 27 2018 22:59 Waxangel wrote:
I'm pretty sure Has is going to die terribly, but I really hope he doesn't
But will he look as bad as sOs?
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On October 28 2018 00:32 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 22:59 Waxangel wrote:
I'm pretty sure Has is going to die terribly, but I really hope he doesn't But will he look as bad as sOs?
Possible, and tbh also not unlikely.
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On October 28 2018 00:40 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 00:32 StasisField wrote:On October 27 2018 22:59 Waxangel wrote:
I'm pretty sure Has is going to die terribly, but I really hope he doesn't But will he look as bad as sOs? Possible, and tbh also not unlikely.
Honestly I'm not sure what would have to happen to make that possible. Even if nothing he tries works it would still be the same as sOs.
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Was there ever some good sOs vs. Has showdown?
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Canada8988 Posts
On October 28 2018 00:52 opisska wrote:
Was there ever some good sOs vs. Has showdown?
They never played according to Aligulac
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On October 28 2018 00:55 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 00:52 opisska wrote:
Was there ever some good sOs vs. Has showdown? They never played according to Aligulac
Such a wasted opportunity
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On October 28 2018 00:55 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 00:52 opisska wrote:
Was there ever some good sOs vs. Has showdown? They never played according to Aligulac
Then it's likely they never did indeed. Except for on ladder of course.
Anyway, don't expect games until in like 30-45 minutes if it goes like yesterday.
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On October 28 2018 00:52 opisska wrote:
Was there ever some good sOs vs. Has showdown?
From a narrative perspective I kinda prefer to see an unfortunate player who only wants to have a macro game deal with all the bullshit, rather than cheese against cheese. You have to have one of those good vs evil scenarios to be able to truly root for evil.
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On October 28 2018 00:50 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 00:40 HolydaKing wrote:On October 28 2018 00:32 StasisField wrote:On October 27 2018 22:59 Waxangel wrote:
I'm pretty sure Has is going to die terribly, but I really hope he doesn't But will he look as bad as sOs? Possible, and tbh also not unlikely. Honestly I'm not sure what would have to happen to make that possible. Even if nothing he tries works it would still be the same as sOs.
I think it'll be that what he tries does work, but he ends up losing anyway. You know, the typical Has thing.
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I can't wait for Stats to have more trouble vs Has than Dark.
Also Stats v Dark hype. Best LotV mu.
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On October 28 2018 01:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
I can't wait for Stats to have more trouble vs Has than Dark.
Also Stats v Dark hype. Best LotV mu.
I highly doubt it, it's hard to lose a PVP against someone 500+mmr below you.
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On October 28 2018 01:04 Cricketer12 wrote:Kill it with fire!
Hear hear!
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Has the gap really closed? I feel it's so hard to assess that when we have only a few Korean vs foreigner tournaments.
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stop talking about yesterday, stop living in the past
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If a foriegner wins a game today I'll be happy. Not expecting it though, but maybe Special or Showtime can take a game.
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On October 28 2018 01:09 geokilla wrote:
Has the gap really closed? I feel it's so hard to assess that when we have only a few Korean vs foreigner tournaments.
Well the whole system is set up on purpose to make this ambiguous for the sake of keeping the narrative
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France12762 Posts
I believe in  ShoWTimE! He can beat both koreans there!
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On October 28 2018 01:11 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:09 geokilla wrote:
Has the gap really closed? I feel it's so hard to assess that when we have only a few Korean vs foreigner tournaments. Well the whole system is set up on purpose to make this ambiguous for the sake of keeping the narrative
And it works beautifully!
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According to Reddit, there's no Korean stream for this event. What the hell Blizzard?
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On October 28 2018 01:12 Poopi wrote:I believe in ShoWTimE! He can beat both koreans there!
he's sick RIP
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On October 28 2018 01:14 Shellshock wrote:he's sick RIP
Not a problem that will make him stronger
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Pretty sure that Special is going to do another TY tribute and lose
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On October 28 2018 01:13 geokilla wrote:
According to Reddit, there's no Korean stream for this event. What the hell Blizzard?
No official coverage that is--just community casting like all the other non-English languages.
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Yes! Just in time for a short break
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In other games, breaks happen between games.
In WCS, breaks happen between talks.
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wow 15 minutes of talking...not sure how much more I could have handled. Thanks for the break WCS!
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On October 28 2018 01:17 yht9657 wrote:
In other games, breaks happen between games.
In WCS, breaks happen between talks.
what we really need is breaks between breaks
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On October 28 2018 01:17 yht9657 wrote:
In other games, breaks happen between games.
In WCS, breaks happen between talks.
And between breaks!
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On October 28 2018 01:18 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:17 yht9657 wrote:
In other games, breaks happen between games.
In WCS, breaks happen between talks. what we really need is breaks between breaks
Well we have Twitch ads I guess those count?
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On October 28 2018 01:19 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:17 yht9657 wrote:
In other games, breaks happen between games.
In WCS, breaks happen between talks. And between breaks!
Guys what we need is break between signatures series video of players who aren't playing next
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Canada8988 Posts
Did Showtime just spit on the floor?
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At least these breaks give people enough time to look clearly at certain emotes and then vote in the corresponding polls, just saying.
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Such a shame Kaelaris doesn't step up to cast Has games!!!
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On October 28 2018 01:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
At least these breaks give people enough time to look clearly at certain emotes and then vote in the corresponding polls, just saying.
Gives me enough time to recap everything between matches.
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We're 27 minutes into the first series and haven't seen one second of gameplay yet. Why do they organize things like this?
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The words on Has's jacket is "Strongest in the world".
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On October 28 2018 01:27 SplattedOne wrote:
We're 27 minutes into the first series and haven't seen one second of gameplay yet. Why do they organize things like this?
Calm your panties down, it was listed on the official site it starts at :30. This is the pre-show, dont like it? Show up at the announced time.
EDIT: actually they started 1 minute early
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On October 28 2018 01:24 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
At least these breaks give people enough time to look clearly at certain emotes and then vote in the corresponding polls, just saying. Gives me enough time to recap everything between matches.
Ouch :D So in a sense you might prefer it this way? ^^
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oh, a match is starting
time to make some dinner
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Canada8988 Posts
By the way I remember being promise a showmatch between Rotti and Has at Blizzcon what happen with it?
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On October 28 2018 01:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:24 Olli wrote:On October 28 2018 01:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
At least these breaks give people enough time to look clearly at certain emotes and then vote in the corresponding polls, just saying. Gives me enough time to recap everything between matches. Ouch :D So in a sense you might prefer it this way? ^^
No, I'd much rather watch VODs tomorrow and skip all the talk
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On October 28 2018 01:29 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 28 2018 01:24 Olli wrote:On October 28 2018 01:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
At least these breaks give people enough time to look clearly at certain emotes and then vote in the corresponding polls, just saying. Gives me enough time to recap everything between matches. Ouch :D So in a sense you might prefer it this way? ^^ No, I'd much rather watch VODs tomorrow and skip all the talk
What about waiting for the VODs and complain about teamliquid spoiler?
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On October 28 2018 01:29 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 28 2018 01:24 Olli wrote:On October 28 2018 01:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
At least these breaks give people enough time to look clearly at certain emotes and then vote in the corresponding polls, just saying. Gives me enough time to recap everything between matches. Ouch :D So in a sense you might prefer it this way? ^^ No, I'd much rather watch VODs tomorrow and skip all the talk
Well honestly a little of the talk is fine, it just can be classified as "too much" when we approach a 1:2 ratio of gameplay compared to non gameplay.
Either way, has vs stats gonna be funny
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On October 28 2018 01:28 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:27 SplattedOne wrote:
We're 27 minutes into the first series and haven't seen one second of gameplay yet. Why do they organize things like this? Calm your panties down, it was listed on the official site it starts at :30. This is the pre-show, dont like it? Show up at the announced time. EDIT: actually they started 1 minute early
Fair enough. I was going based on Liquipedia, which I thought listed the start time for the series as 12 (apparently it's 12:15, so I'm wrong twice).
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This game one went exactly as expected, hope game 2 is a canon rush
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On October 28 2018 01:34 argonautdice wrote:
Pacifist oracle
"The oracle is very worker friendly, no workers will ever be harmed by the oracle. There are 55 ways to lose workers in SC2 but thankfully the oracle won't be one of them" - Dustin Browder
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On October 28 2018 01:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:"The oracle is very worker friendly, no workers will ever be harmed by the oracle. There are 55 ways to lose workers in SC2 but thankfully the oracle won't be one of them" - Dustin Browder
ayyyyyyy
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Yep pretty much how you could expect it to go, super calm play by Stats
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are they shouting intros in an empty studio?
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On October 28 2018 01:39 Noonius wrote:
are they shouting intros in an empty studio?
They're shouting for us. This is the esports version of acting in front of a green screen.
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On October 28 2018 01:35 Shellshock wrote:
Has has lost
Stats shows that Stats knows that the stats show that Has has lost.
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Canada8988 Posts
Has doing the same build 2 time. Booooooooo
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On October 28 2018 01:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:"The oracle is very worker friendly, no workers will ever be harmed by the oracle. There are 55 ways to lose workers in SC2 but thankfully the oracle won't be one of them" - Dustin Browder
so a little off-topic, but I just rewatched the HotS multiplayer units update after reading this quote. Do you guys think Entomb and Cloak Field would have been better than the unit's current abilities?
Also, G1 went pretty expected. Still, not as bad as Serral vs sOs G1 imo lol
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United States97276 Posts
this isnt the Has I want to see
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this was less exciting than the between game talk show
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On October 28 2018 01:41 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 28 2018 01:34 argonautdice wrote:
Pacifist oracle "The oracle is very worker friendly, no workers will ever be harmed by the oracle. There are 55 ways to lose workers in SC2 but thankfully the oracle won't be one of them" - Dustin Browder so a little off-topic, but I just rewatched the HotS multiplayer units update after reading this quote. Do you guys think Entomb and Cloak Field would have been better than the unit's current abilities? Also, G1 went pretty expected. Still, not as bad as Serral vs sOs G1 imo lol
Entomb was the most obnoxious ability there was. Zero skill needed to use, zero counterplay--just losing like a minute's worth of economy with nothing to show for it.
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Has unpowers his own Robo, i think that sums up his play
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can't believe Has actually made it so far lmao
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I'd say has and sOs looked equally bad
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The unpowered robo is the highlight so far.
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I've seen many good PvP's lately, this series had none though.
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poor Has
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Something about mobius strips
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On October 28 2018 01:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:41 StasisField wrote:On October 28 2018 01:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 28 2018 01:34 argonautdice wrote:
Pacifist oracle "The oracle is very worker friendly, no workers will ever be harmed by the oracle. There are 55 ways to lose workers in SC2 but thankfully the oracle won't be one of them" - Dustin Browder so a little off-topic, but I just rewatched the HotS multiplayer units update after reading this quote. Do you guys think Entomb and Cloak Field would have been better than the unit's current abilities? Also, G1 went pretty expected. Still, not as bad as Serral vs sOs G1 imo lol Entomb was the most obnoxious ability there was. Zero skill needed to use, zero counterplay--just losing like a minute's worth of economy with nothing to show for it.
But you could destroy the entombs?
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I should have gone looking for owls instead of this
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Back to talkcraft NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Has' mistake was putting down a gateway instead of a forge.
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At least the talk show is excellent
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On October 28 2018 01:45 opisska wrote:
I should have gone looking for owls instead of this
Don't act like watching Has kill his own pylon wasn't hilarious
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On October 28 2018 01:44 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 28 2018 01:41 StasisField wrote:On October 28 2018 01:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 28 2018 01:34 argonautdice wrote:
Pacifist oracle "The oracle is very worker friendly, no workers will ever be harmed by the oracle. There are 55 ways to lose workers in SC2 but thankfully the oracle won't be one of them" - Dustin Browder so a little off-topic, but I just rewatched the HotS multiplayer units update after reading this quote. Do you guys think Entomb and Cloak Field would have been better than the unit's current abilities? Also, G1 went pretty expected. Still, not as bad as Serral vs sOs G1 imo lol Entomb was the most obnoxious ability there was. Zero skill needed to use, zero counterplay--just losing like a minute's worth of economy with nothing to show for it. But you could destroy the entombs?
Not originally I believe--they added health to it at one point but it didn't fix things-if you didn't leave a bunch of units in your mineral lines you just got randomly shafted and lost a lot of mining. And due to the range of the ability it was basically impossible to zone out the oracles.
Though I do recall one somewhat skillful things that people tried--they entombed seven mineral patches sending all the drones to the last one and stormed that patch, but that was pretty fringe.
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On October 28 2018 01:45 Weavel wrote:
Back to talkcraft NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
For you, and the others people hating on the talk-show, the exact times for each mach is listed here. Leave when one is over, and come back at the given time>
https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/4031/
Scroll down a bit. They arent starting earlier. I guess if the previous series drags out they start later, but that hasnt happened yet.
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On October 28 2018 01:47 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:45 opisska wrote:
I should have gone looking for owls instead of this Don't act like watching Has kill his own pylon wasn't hilarious
OKay, that was somewhat redeeming two seconds ....
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On October 28 2018 01:47 Geo.Rion wrote:For you, and the others people hating on the talk-show, the exact times for each mach is listed here. Leave when one is over, and come back at the given time> https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/4031/Scroll down a bit
Implying these are accurate 
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Has is really a huge waste of finals spot
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Stats is the Shuckle Protoss
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What does Has reaching a WCS finals say about the foreign scene?
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On October 28 2018 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:47 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 28 2018 01:45 Weavel wrote:
Back to talkcraft NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO For you, and the others people hating on the talk-show, the exact times for each mach is listed here. Leave when one is over, and come back at the given time> https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/4031/Scroll down a bit Implying these are accurate
They kinda were. They sure as hell dont start it earlier, at least yesterday they didnt.
If we ll have a long series, they obviously will have to start later.
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On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot
Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though
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On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though
Why does it have to be a foreigner? Should be Koreans
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On October 28 2018 01:51 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though Why does it have to be a foreigner? Should be Koreans
He took a WCS spot
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On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot
Blame players like Kelazhur, Nerchio and Showtime for not knocking him out earlier here.
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On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot
Ehh, he made it fair and square. He got to a wcs finals beating people like showtime, elazer, special, kelazhur and nerchio.
If you wanna go down that road we might have to talk about the lvl of wcs as a whole 
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On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though
Reynor, Scarlet, Uthermal would have had more of a shot. But they lost so it's their own damn fault
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On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though
That's easy, Reynor.
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On October 28 2018 01:49 Olli wrote:
I liked that series
thats because you like anything with a protoss winner
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On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though
I'm going to blame Reynor's parents for not having him 6 months earlier.
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"And now we will go to a short break. We know you like those!".
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On October 28 2018 01:53 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though I'm going to blame Reynor's parents for not having him 6 months earlier.
That is the most reasonable solution tbh
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On October 28 2018 01:53 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though That's easy, Reynor.
even then, he would replace Lambo and not Has since Lambo was 8th
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On October 28 2018 01:54 opisska wrote:"And now we will go to a short break. We know you like those!". Kaelaris with the healthy levels of self-reflection
Or he's a master of post-truth propaganda
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On October 28 2018 01:44 romson87 wrote:
Meh, even worse than sOs
That really shouldn't be surprising.
One of the most brilliant ways of characterizing Has that I've seen was in one TL article where the writer said: If Has succeeded at all of his crazy shenanigans, he wouldn't be Has, he'd be sOs. I think that's very accurate.
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On October 28 2018 01:54 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:53 HolydaKing wrote:On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though That's easy, Reynor. even then, he would replace Lambo and not Has since Lambo was 8th
Maybe he would have beaten Maru this time like he should have in GSL
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On October 28 2018 01:54 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:53 HolydaKing wrote:On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though That's easy, Reynor. even then, he would replace Lambo and not Has since Lambo was 8th
Sure, I just answered his question. ^^
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On October 28 2018 01:47 Geo.Rion wrote:For you, and the others people hating on the talk-show, the exact times for each mach is listed here. Leave when one is over, and come back at the given time> https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/tournament/4031/Scroll down a bit. They arent starting earlier. I guess if the previous series drags out they start later, but that hasnt happened yet. That's useful to know. Thank you.
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On October 28 2018 01:52 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:51 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Now ask yourself, who from foreginers would do significantly better though Reynor, Scarlet, Uthermal would have had more of a shot. But they lost so it's their own damn fault
Oh, im so glad uThermal didnt make it, he s really underserving of a spot and for a time it looked like he would snatch up the 8th.
But yeah, foreigners are missing Reynor, Elazer and Scarlett, and there are 3 people frm the qualified 8 i would gladly trade for the aforementioned 3.
But the process is what it is, those who are there earned their places, and those who dindt make it (for whatever legit reason/ bad luck), well... too bad
Especially sad for Reynor.
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On October 28 2018 01:53 Shellshock wrote:thats because you like anything with a protoss winner
Not much to enjoy this year ;(
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On October 28 2018 01:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Ehh, he made it fair and square. He got to a wcs finals beating people like showtime, elazer, special, kelazhur and nerchio. If you wanna go down that road we might have to talk about the lvl of wcs as a whole
In defense of WCS, the whole system is in a weird spot because of the dominance of Serral. I'm not sure anyone in the bottom 5 would have been guaranteed if the system was running like usual
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Honestly I'd rather have Has than another EU Zerg here, like we haven't seen enough of Zerg action in the whole year of WCS.
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Oh, elazer is not in? Then I retratct my question. As to the others, Reynor is still ineligible age-wise, right? Scarlett would somewhat make sense, but I just have this feeling of disappointment associated with her - she always gives such great hopes and shows insane brilliance and then crashes so hard ...
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On October 28 2018 01:56 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Ehh, he made it fair and square. He got to a wcs finals beating people like showtime, elazer, special, kelazhur and nerchio. If you wanna go down that road we might have to talk about the lvl of wcs as a whole In defense of WCS, the whole system is in a weird spot because of the dominance of Serral. I'm not sure anyone in the bottom 5 would have been guaranteed if the system was running like usual
If Serral wouldn't dominate the bottom 5 players might have had more deep tournament runs.
Like Has winning WCS Valencia
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On October 28 2018 01:56 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 28 2018 01:50 Steroidbrucie wrote:
Has is really a huge waste of finals spot Ehh, he made it fair and square. He got to a wcs finals beating people like showtime, elazer, special, kelazhur and nerchio. If you wanna go down that road we might have to talk about the lvl of wcs as a whole In defense of WCS, the whole system is in a weird spot because of the dominance of Serral. I'm not sure anyone in the bottom 5 would have been guaranteed if the system was running like usual
That's definitely a fair point, still though, has was at least good enough to once make the finals in wcs even when he wasn't really consistent :D
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On October 28 2018 01:57 opisska wrote:
Oh, elazer is not in? Then I retratct my question. As to the others, Reynor is still ineligible age-wise, right? Scarlett would somewhat make sense, but I just have this feeling of disappointment associated with her - she always gives such great hopes and shows insane brilliance and then crashes so hard ...
Reynor didn't qualify, but he would've been in had he beaten Serral at WCS Montreal. Was one map away.
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It speaks more about the lack of competitiveness of the TW/HK/JP region.
MaNa also got to a final this year but only has 180 WCS points from challengers.
Has got 690 points from challengers.
MaNa would've qualified for Blizzcon if he had Has' challenger points.
Edit: never mind, MaNa would've been 5 points short of Lambo.
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On October 28 2018 01:59 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 01:57 opisska wrote:
Oh, elazer is not in? Then I retratct my question. As to the others, Reynor is still ineligible age-wise, right? Scarlett would somewhat make sense, but I just have this feeling of disappointment associated with her - she always gives such great hopes and shows insane brilliance and then crashes so hard ... Reynor didn't qualify, but he would've been in had he beaten Serral at WCS Montreal. Was one map away.
Let s not forget the fact that Reynor couldnt attend Leipzig and Austin.
It s a bit hard to scrap together enough point from 2 events. He almost did it, almost
And yeah, Has wouldnt have qualified without those basically free challenger points
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I really hope Showtime can make the games vs Dark less onesided than the Serral vs Toss games yesterday.
HAHA Dark. Serral beat him, so he accepts him as a good player. :D
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Ha, classic Dark: "Everyone except for Serral is just a foreigner" :D
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On October 28 2018 02:00 HolydaKing wrote:
I really hope Showtime can make the games vs Dark less onesided than the Serral vs Toss games yesterday.
He can, I think he is the second best foreigner honestly it's between him and Neeb, but I think Showtime has less bad player match up
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On October 28 2018 01:49 Olli wrote:
I liked that series
please leave
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On October 28 2018 02:06 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:00 HolydaKing wrote:
I really hope Showtime can make the games vs Dark less onesided than the Serral vs Toss games yesterday. He can, I think he is the second best foreigner honestly it's between him and Neeb, but I think Showtime has less bad player match up
I think Neeb's PvZ and PvT are stronger and PvP weaker.
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On October 28 2018 02:07 Noonius wrote:please leave
But it was very easy to recap, I like that
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On October 28 2018 02:06 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:00 HolydaKing wrote:
I really hope Showtime can make the games vs Dark less onesided than the Serral vs Toss games yesterday. He can, I think he is the second best foreigner honestly it's between him and Neeb, but I think Showtime has less bad player match up
2nd best foreign Protoss yeah.
I think Showtime is the best at PvP but Neeb is better at the other two match ups.
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Today is way better than yesterday, less downtime, less talking, no movies about players who are not playing etc.
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huh, good start for Showtime
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Now watch dark win anyway
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Maybe Dark just trying to show he can beat some random foreign toss even after donating a hatchery.
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Strange reaction by Showtime, but let's see
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just build all the shield batteries pls!
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I feel like Showtime is not as far ahead as he could be.
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On October 28 2018 02:16 JoeCool wrote:
I feel like Showtime is not as far ahead as he could be.
The lair just started, he's pretty far ahead.
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Showtime plays too scared here
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On October 28 2018 02:16 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:16 JoeCool wrote:
I feel like Showtime is not as far ahead as he could be. The lair just started, he's pretty far ahead.
This game isn't even close. (and by that I mean Dark is absolutely destroying him)
Edit: Welp I was wrong. Showtime has become a very good player though as well.
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On October 28 2018 02:16 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:16 JoeCool wrote:
I feel like Showtime is not as far ahead as he could be. The lair just started, he's pretty far ahead.
Not convinced :/
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Should be enough for Showtime but I can't believe he's gonna fell that good about that win
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The attack would have been so bad if the zealots haven't killed the other base. Now suddenly it's great.
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How can Dark claim he is the best Zerg while pulling this crap all the time
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On October 28 2018 02:19 Poopi wrote:ShoWTimE is just Another level :p
That did not look like it would've went well if he hadn't been far ahead.
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On October 28 2018 02:17 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:16 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 02:16 JoeCool wrote:
I feel like Showtime is not as far ahead as he could be. The lair just started, he's pretty far ahead. This game isn't even close. (and by that I mean Dark is absolutely destroying him)
yeah...
I salute Showtime, 9/10 protosses would have went for the jugular after the failed Zerg allin, knowing they should have the edge and yet 5/10 times Dark would have held it, cuz he precisely prepared for that, super delaying the Lair and evo.
Well played by Showtime, masterclass of good, defensive play.
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Wowo, go Showtime. Best game of the tournament so far.
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But Dark doesn't lose to foreigners :O
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Pretty impressive by Showtime
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Hey, that was actually a good game.
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Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game.
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On October 28 2018 02:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Hey, that was actually a good game.
Your taste in 10minute death animations is peculiar
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Showtime had to work really hard for that game that Dark started out down 2 hatcheries...
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On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game.
Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy?
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if he had prevented the stalkers from killing his natural that could've been a game
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On October 28 2018 02:23 TheDougler wrote:
Showtime had to work really hard for that game that Dark started out down 2 hatcheries...
Showtime just played it safe as he knew how ahead in tech he was.
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On October 28 2018 02:24 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game. Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy?
Would it have been much better if he just cancelled it just before it finished?
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On October 28 2018 02:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Hey, that was actually a good game. Your taste in 10minute death animations is peculiar
If the only games you enjoy are the incredible comebacks, don't be surprised with your lifetime of disappointment.
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On October 28 2018 02:24 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game. Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy?
It should have been. It took forever for Dark to get an expansion out.
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On October 28 2018 02:24 Kalera wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:24 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game. Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy? Would it have been better if he just cancelled it just before it finished?
I don't think he saw Showtime scouted it considering he sent 2 drones across the map and sent them back when showtime attacked the hatch
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On October 28 2018 02:25 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Hey, that was actually a good game. Your taste in 10minute death animations is peculiar If the only games you enjoy are the incredible comebacks, don't be surprised with your lifetime of disappointment.
I am not saying the game wasn't enjoyable, but a game where both players seem to have a chance would be just better
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On October 28 2018 02:22 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:17 jjmmtt wrote:On October 28 2018 02:16 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 02:16 JoeCool wrote:
I feel like Showtime is not as far ahead as he could be. The lair just started, he's pretty far ahead. This game isn't even close. (and by that I mean Dark is absolutely destroying him) yeah... I salute Showtime, 9/10 protosses would have went for the jugular after the failed Zerg allin, knowing they should have the edge and yet 5/10 times Dark would have held it, cuz he precisely prepared for that, super delaying the Lair and evo. Well played by Showtime, masterclass of good, defensive play.
Going for it would have been the better call, it was a huge gamble to wait longer. If Dark would have split a couple of lings at the fourth of if he had gotten those immortal at the 3rth before the recall (he would have had at least 2 of them if he didn't split his last bile to cut out the retreat), then it become a much more even game. He did everything right so good for him, but he could have make this a lot easier for himself and he didn't.
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On October 28 2018 02:24 Charoisaur wrote:
if he had prevented the stalkers from killing his natural that could've been a game
that s a fairly big IF, considering Showtime still had enough shield left to safely recall both stalkers.
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On October 28 2018 02:24 Kalera wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:24 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game. Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy? Would it have been much better if he just cancelled it just before it finished?
He was already pretty committed at that point. Leaving the hatch there atleast made it chaotic, instead of a situation where he has no natural hatch and nothing else either I guess.
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On October 28 2018 02:25 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:24 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game. Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy? It should have been. It took forever for Dark to get an expansion out.
Pretty misleading to call that a "B.O." win. More like "Dark didn't get a lucky win".
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On October 28 2018 02:26 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:25 TheDougler wrote:On October 28 2018 02:24 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 Shathe wrote:
Well since Showtime scouted the proxy right away Dark was behind all game. Yeah, wasn't that basically a bo win the second he scouted the proxy? It should have been. It took forever for Dark to get an expansion out. Pretty misleading to call that a "B.O." win. More like "Dark didn't get a lucky win".
I think Dark pretty openly lost because of the order of places in which he built his hatches
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On October 28 2018 02:25 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:25 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 02:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Hey, that was actually a good game. Your taste in 10minute death animations is peculiar If the only games you enjoy are the incredible comebacks, don't be surprised with your lifetime of disappointment. I am not saying the game wasn't enjoyable, but a game where both players seem to have a chance would be just better
I'm not saying there aren't better games, but it had an interesting start, which gave Showtime a determining edge, Dark played well from behind to try to climb back in, but Showtime also played well and didn't let the victory slip from his grasp. It was good. This is the standard I expect from a StarCraft match to keep me entertained. Especially given that yesterday's matches were all pretty bad.
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Lol, windows asking to turn on firewall on stream
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hahaha that firewall message.
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LMAO dat firewall notice!
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On October 28 2018 02:28 odeSSa wrote:
LMAO dat firewall notice!
OMG, i thought that was me, I went and checked and was baffled to this moment what the hell is going on
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On October 28 2018 02:30 Geo.Rion wrote:OMG, i thought that was me, I went and checked and was baffled to this moment what the hell is going on
That's the advantage of watching in 480, the blurriness shows it's not real
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"Could now have defended better"
15 probes
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On October 28 2018 02:34 Musicus wrote:
man Showtime could've been so ahead, even now I guess.
being the biased Zerg that I am, I got super excited by that detonation, then i remembered im cheering for the foreginers :/
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On October 28 2018 02:35 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:34 Musicus wrote:
man Showtime could've been so ahead, even now I guess. being the biased Zerg that I am, I got super excited by that detonation, then i remembered im cheering for the foreginers :/
I'm Protoss and rooting for foreigners and I still got excited. To be fair, I like explosions .
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On October 28 2018 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
4 banes for 25 probes seems like a decent trade
Literally never seen 1 drop overlord killing 25 probes at 2 separate bases, with one move
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COMBAT BANELING DROPS!
This game is great.
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When lurkers and carriers are being made at the same time, u can tell Zerg is not in a good spot.
edit: or spire and carriers
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lurker ling bling vs carriers
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On October 28 2018 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
4 banes for 25 probes seems like a decent trade
Reminds me of Bunny vs sOs where Bunny basically killed sOs' whole economy within seconds.
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What would have Serral done tho
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Euro Zergs > KR Zergs, GG really well played Showtime!
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This is a great game and the commentary makes it even better.
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Dark getting worse or foreigners getting better?
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2nd rematch curse confirmed
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Never thought Dark would lose to a foreign Protoss.
GG Tobias!!!
gogo Die Mauer!
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serral showtime blizzcon finals
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Now Showtime can actually reach Ro8, his PvP is sick.
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No foreigner can beat Dark.
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YES! Wow, so happy I was wrong with my prediciton!
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Koreans vs. Foreigners 4:4 so far. Not so bad. Fuck yeah, ShoWTimeE !
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Unlock the regions next year please, this is fun
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is that stat correct? Hasn't lost to a non korean protoss for 6 years?
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That was really fun. Amazing Stasis Ward and Force Field defence, devastating Baneling drops and a a big end game army with no money to replace it.
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gg juice?
Arty you silly man
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beautifully done Showtime, I feel like I ve seen this so many times from Showtime, yet i dont mind it this time
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No doubt about it, that was a GREAT game. The attempted busts and defences were fantastic.
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On October 28 2018 02:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
is that stat correct? Hasn't lost to a non korean protoss for 6 years?
He was like 32-0 vs foreigners until recently. Famously always cheesed and never lost.
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This was also the best game of the tournament so far.
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Will Has vs Dark be next?
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Dark not even close to Serral
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On October 28 2018 02:48 opisska wrote:
This was also the best game of the tournament so far.
Yeah, not even close. ShoWTimE is great !
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On October 28 2018 02:48 RaFox17 wrote:
Will Has vs Dark be next?
Tomorrow. October 28, 2018 - 20:00 EET
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Tod: "first map proxy didnt do enough" lol it was scouted the minute it started that was game over.
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On October 28 2018 02:48 RaFox17 wrote:
Will Has vs Dark be next?
No the'll play Group D first.
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Can't wait for Has to build batteries and robo on top of Dark's natural while Dark builds an hatch on Has' natural.
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On October 28 2018 02:48 RaFox17 wrote:
Will Has vs Dark be next?
no they do winners first
E: and the first matches of the other group obv
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Showtime doesn't look very ill though
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On October 28 2018 02:50 Penev wrote:no they do winners first
they also do the other group first
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So can we get rid of region lock now?
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What Showtime said about Korean Zergs being afraid of going into lategame vs Protoss is true. Rogue is probably the only Korean Zerg who has excellent lategame ZvP.
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If Showtime was practing with Serral, he had the best teacher.
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Hajinsun is doing a really good job! I think she picks her questions way better than Smix.
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On October 28 2018 02:50 opisska wrote:
Showtime doesn't look very ill though
Well, probably just the start of a small cold. So nothing horrible, but you feel it.
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"Korean Zergs being afraid of lategame"
but they have the best lategame player across all races, across all expansions...
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That was a proper game from ShoWTimE. Very, very impressed.
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Did we know if the caster roster is gonna be the same for Blizzcon? (are ZG and Nate gonna be there?)
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In the end it will be korean Terrans who will be the biggest hurdle for foreigners.
They have Serral, Reynor, Elazer etc for zergs and Neeb + Showtime for Protoss, but foreigners just don't have a real top Terran they can meet on the ladder and in WCS.
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On October 28 2018 02:49 Shathe wrote:
Tod: "first map proxy didnt do enough" lol it was scouted the minute it started that was game over.
It s almost as if proxying buildings puts you behind if it gets scouted.
Wonder why it s not working like that for other races, cough cough... terran, cough
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Force Field usage isn't really what it was back in Wings, but caging all those Banelings in really was beautiful Force Fields.
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Hajinsun is doing a really good job! I think she picks her questions way better than Smix.
She doesnt pick the questions, she doesnt even know the game in details.
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still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad
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On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad
is trolling allowed now?
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On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad
Dark vs Showtime game 2 just now was pretty good
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On October 28 2018 02:56 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Dark vs Showtime game 2 just now was pretty good
Easily the best game of the tournament so far.
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On October 28 2018 02:54 Musicus wrote:
In the end it will be korean Terrans who will be the biggest hurdle for foreigners.
They have Serral, Reynor, Elazer etc for zergs and Neeb + Showtime for Protoss, but foreigners just don't have a real top Terran they can meet on the ladder and in WCS.
marinelord is back
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On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad
Uh... What about the game we just watched?
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Maru vs Lambo stomp
TY vs Neeb meh
Neeb vs Maru stomp
Heromarine vs Zest meh
Serral vs sOs stomp
Serral vs Zest stomp
Has vs Stats stomp
Dark vs Showtime game 1 BO loss stomp, game 2 actual good game
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On October 28 2018 02:57 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:56 argonautdice wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Dark vs Showtime game 2 just now was pretty good Easily the best game of the tournament so far.
that's not very hard though.
But yeah the game was amazing
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On October 28 2018 02:55 Shathe wrote:Show nested quote +Hajinsun is doing a really good job! I think she picks her questions way better than Smix. She doesnt pick the questions, she doesnt even know the game in details.
Honestly this may sound harsh but sc2 interview are some of the boring thing ever dosen't really matter who ask the question, if the interviewer had more time and space to dive deep it would matter who does them but right now it can be pretty much anyone who speak korean. Smix is a good on stage host tho.
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On October 28 2018 02:59 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:55 Shathe wrote:Hajinsun is doing a really good job! I think she picks her questions way better than Smix. She doesnt pick the questions, she doesnt even know the game in details. Honestly this may sound harsh but sc2 interview are some of the boring thing ever dosen't really matter who ask the question, if the interviewer had more time and space to dive deep it would matter who does them but right now it can be pretty much anyone who speak korean. Smix is a good on stage host tho.
They are not supposed to be deep, they don't want to bother the players too much and TBH I find them interesting enough, definitely more interesting than talkcraft.
Ofc it also depends on the player, like interviews with Dark or Showtime are a lot more "interesting" than those with Serral or Innovation.
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On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched?
pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.
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On October 28 2018 02:58 argonautdice wrote:
Maru vs Lambo stomp
TY vs Neeb meh
Neeb vs Maru stomp
Heromarine vs Zest stomp
Serral vs sOs stomp
Serral vs Zest stomp
Has vs Stats stomp
Dark vs Showtime game 1 BO loss stomp, game 2 actual good game
I thought Heromarine was gonna win game 1, he had libs and ghosts vs gateway immortal and held Zest's timing. Then he moved out too early and got swarmed though. Just needed to wait. Still wasn't a stomp imo.
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On October 28 2018 03:03 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:58 argonautdice wrote:
Maru vs Lambo stomp
TY vs Neeb meh
Neeb vs Maru stomp
Heromarine vs Zest stomp
Serral vs sOs stomp
Serral vs Zest stomp
Has vs Stats stomp
Dark vs Showtime game 1 BO loss stomp, game 2 actual good game I thought Heromarine was gonna win game 1, he had libs and ghosts vs gateway immortal and held Zest's timing. Then he moved out too early and got swarmed though. Just needed to wait. Still wasn't a stomp imo.
alright fair enough I'll change Heromarine vs Zest to meh.
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On October 28 2018 03:05 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:03 Musicus wrote:On October 28 2018 02:58 argonautdice wrote:
Maru vs Lambo stomp
TY vs Neeb meh
Neeb vs Maru stomp
Heromarine vs Zest stomp
Serral vs sOs stomp
Serral vs Zest stomp
Has vs Stats stomp
Dark vs Showtime game 1 BO loss stomp, game 2 actual good game I thought Heromarine was gonna win game 1, he had libs and ghosts vs gateway immortal and held Zest's timing. Then he moved out too early and got swarmed though. Just needed to wait. Still wasn't a stomp imo. alright fair enough I'll change Heromarine vs Zest to meh.
definitely agree with meh :D
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On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.
An opinion that not many people would share. Especially players with a high game knowledge.
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On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.
The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me.
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On October 28 2018 03:01 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:59 Nakajin wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 Shathe wrote:Hajinsun is doing a really good job! I think she picks her questions way better than Smix. She doesnt pick the questions, she doesnt even know the game in details. Honestly this may sound harsh but sc2 interview are some of the boring thing ever dosen't really matter who ask the question, if the interviewer had more time and space to dive deep it would matter who does them but right now it can be pretty much anyone who speak korean. Smix is a good on stage host tho. They are not supposed to be deep, they don't want to bother the players too much and TBH I find them interesting enough, definitely more interesting than talkcraft. Ofc it also depends on the player, like interviews with Dark or Showtime are a lot more "interesting" than those with Serral or Innovation.
I understand why they are the way they are, but I just meant to say that they always are the same: "How do you fell about that win", "Who do you want to face next", a question about a specific map and then what do you think are your chances for the tournament/a word for your fan. Sure some player are gonna give good response and sometime you really want to know the answer but the interviewer never really has to step in and change the format or bounce back on an answer.
I loved it when they did on couch interview back in the IEM day's. Maybe not in between group matches but when the day is over it would be nice to have a bit of longer, more laid back chat, I remember some pretty ok on couch interview with Taeja of all people.
Edit: Jesus I got scare by that cat when I posted
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On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.
That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well
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Poll: Classic vs Nerchio predictions?2-0 Classic stomp (11) 65% 2-1 Classic shaky... (3) 18% 2-0 Classic bores me... (2) 12% 0-2 Godchio rules! (1) 6% 17 total votes Your vote: Classic vs Nerchio predictions? (Vote): 2-0 Classic stomp
(Vote): 2-0 Classic bores me...
(Vote): 2-1 Classic shaky...
(Vote): 0-2 Godchio rules!
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On October 28 2018 03:09 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me.
Yeah man only 20 posts praising the game and Showtime before someone HAD to get negative, FUCK LRs!
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Nerchio steel feeling cold it seems.
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On October 28 2018 03:12 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:09 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me. Yeah man only 20 posts praising the game and Showtime before someone HAD to get negative, FUCK LRs!
no no no, im not saying it s all the posts, but there s always a random like this. Always.
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So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.
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On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well
meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while.
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On October 28 2018 03:12 Xamo wrote:Poll: Classic vs Nerchio predictions?2-0 Classic stomp (11) 65% 2-1 Classic shaky... (3) 18% 2-0 Classic bores me... (2) 12% 0-2 Godchio rules! (1) 6% 17 total votes Your vote: Classic vs Nerchio predictions? (Vote): 2-0 Classic stomp
(Vote): 2-0 Classic bores me...
(Vote): 2-1 Classic shaky...
(Vote): 0-2 Godchio rules!
I could see Nerchio taking one game.
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On October 28 2018 03:14 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while.
throwing low-tech armies in fortified maxed protoss positions does nothing - Dark was just a little bit too sloppy with the engagements and transitioned too late but his gameplan wasn't bad
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On October 28 2018 03:14 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while.
Ain't you the guy that was like "heromarine should have done gasless FE vs Zest, what a scrub"?
I don't know much about PvZ but I trust others on this one :o
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On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers.
He did exactly that, didn't he? I remember seeing a big bank and then... depleted.
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On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.
Chill. He is kinda right. Saying a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill
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I always feel like when a group has 2 of one race and 1 each of the other two, the weaker one of the two has the most disadvantage because he (or Scarlett) has to prepare for all 3 match-ups while being weaker in the mirror match.
So I think it's unlikely Nerchio will make it out of the group.
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On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.
There is a pretty big difference between "X played well but Y played much better", and "Y only won because X played bad"
and too often people (incorrectly) say the latter
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yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?
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On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill
No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.
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On October 28 2018 03:19 Paljas wrote:
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?
Game 1: Dark tried to proxy hatch and got scouted immediately and got rekt.
Game 2: DIE MAUER
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On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Saying a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill
agreed. Pros should never be criticized. That's just trying to bring negativity
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Even though I am Dark fan, I'll admit Showtime played well that series more than Dark was playing poorly.
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On October 28 2018 03:19 Paljas wrote:
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?
Game 1 Dark failed proxy hatch and took 10 minute deatch animation, game 2 Showtime won a long macro game defending ling bane aggresion well and teching to enough carriers to close.
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On October 28 2018 03:19 Paljas wrote:
yo, showtime beat dark? how were the games?
In game one Showtime scouted Darks proxy-hatch and basically played it safe from there.
Game 2 was pretty good though, went into lategame with lots of harrassing, big fights etc.
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On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good.
Are you kidding me, there have been 8 best of 3s so far between the top players, commentated by the best talent, and after the best game of the tourney the troll comes here to complain how not fun it is, and there hasnt been literally A SINGLE GOOD GAME, and I have the terrible attitude? Go to the store and buy a reality check.
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On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.
You and I must have a very different use of Internet
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On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.
So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?
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On October 28 2018 03:16 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:14 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while. throwing low-tech armies in fortified maxed protoss positions does nothing - Dark was just a little bit too sloppy with the engagements and transitioned too late but his gameplan wasn't bad
from the 13:00 mark forward dark had a few minutes to try the multitasking route, instead he went for a full blown undecisive engagement that did nothing, go watch it again, that should've been a multipronged attack Serral style.
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On October 28 2018 03:20 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Are you kidding me, there have been 8 best of 3s so far between the top players, commentated by the best talent, and after the best game of the tourney the troll comes here to complain how not fun it is, and there hasnt been literally A SINGLE GOOD GAME, and I have the terrible attitude? Go to the store and buy a reality check.
before the last game saying there hasn't been a good game isn't a controversial opinion. I liked the last game but I don't think disliking it is trolling/trying to bring negativity.
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On October 28 2018 03:22 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:16 Charoisaur wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. That would've been horrible, Showtime was set up too well meh, it was still better than waiting, forcing showtime to multitask was his best option and he had the bank to do it, showtime was quite behind in eco for a while. throwing low-tech armies in fortified maxed protoss positions does nothing - Dark was just a little bit too sloppy with the engagements and transitioned too late but his gameplan wasn't bad from the 13:00 mark forward dark had a few minutes to try the multitasking route, instead he went for a full blown undecisive engagement that did nothing, go watch it again, that should've been a multipronged attack Serral style.
that's what I mean, his sloppy engagements lost him the game
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On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet. So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad?
Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion.
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On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet.
Jesus, you re unhinged.
The internet is filled with places where everything is all about positivity? From which parallel universe were you warped in?
If one couldnt enjoy a single game out of the 20ish that has been played by the best, commentated by the best, then what the hell is he doing here?
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On October 28 2018 03:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet. So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad? Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion.
You might want to reply to the particular post that you disliked then. Most responses were criticizing the substance of the post.
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On October 28 2018 03:25 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet. So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad? Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion. You might want to reply to the particular post that you disliked then. Most responses were criticizing the substance of the post.
On October 28 2018 03:09 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me.
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On October 28 2018 03:25 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:21 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 03:19 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:17 DarkGamer wrote:On October 28 2018 03:14 opisska wrote:
So having an opinion about the gameplay which is not "everything is so amazing" is negative now? Go away with such terrible attitude, we are here to discuss the games and that requires the ability to say that we don't think some play was good. Chill. He is kinda right. Argueing a game was bad and telling what a pro should have done - beside it is clearly wrong - is just trying to bring negativity. Its not discussing the game. Beside that ur post is kinda aggressive ("go away with such a terrible attitude"). Chill No it's not "trying to bring negativity". That's just what you "everything needs to be flowers" people read into it. I would be very disappointed if this attitude prevailed here, as it has done in so many other places of the internet. So calling games bad is fine but criticizing that post is bad? Disagreeing with the poster's opinion on the game (and what the players should have done) is welcome and exactly what should happen, criticizing it for "negativity" is discussing form over substance and trying to silence an opinion without touching its substance, the worst enemies of any discussion. You might want to reply to the particular post that you disliked then. Most responses were criticizing the substance of the post.
I was referring to:
On October 28 2018 03:09 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:03 IshinShishi wrote:On October 28 2018 02:57 kaykoose wrote:On October 28 2018 02:55 IshinShishi wrote:
still waiting for one good game in the tournament, the overall level has been pretty bad Uh... What about the game we just watched? pretty bad play by dark, he overvalued his lings, should've just kept throwing his army with his 4k bank instead of watching showtime mass carriers. The clueless, random, uninformed and ill-willed negativity present at TL lr threads never seizes to amaze me.
I did not quote it full, but I thing the reference to "negativity" was pretty clearly related to that particular post and looking at the page, there is no room for any confusion.
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Forcefielding Zerg out of their main base... WoL Protosses are happy
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On October 28 2018 03:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Forcefielding Zerg out of their main base... WoL Protosses are happy
Yeah that was a throwback if there was ever any!
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Foreigners > KR
LoL, sc2, doesn't matter
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On October 28 2018 03:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Forcefielding Zerg out of their main base... WoL Protosses are happy
Classic missed his forcefield, BitByBit would have beat him.
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Nerchio seems to be abusing F2 or something. He obviously pulled locusts from firing for no benefit.
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if classic gets some breathing room nerchio loses, no upgrades were seen that day.
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Nerchio trades really bad righ tnow
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Whoa I thought Classic was dead.
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wow that was clutch by Classic
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Wowwww Nerchio threw that game so hard.
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wow, now that was a game!
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Why Nerchio just didnt attack earlier?
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Shit, Nerchio had the game...
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Wtf happened
Upgrades okay but what a comeback
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Daaaamn that call by Classic was clutch as hell
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Classic's PvZ is pretty underrated.
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that was very, very bad by Nerchio
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That was so close! Bascially without the round of zealots, the locusts kill everything, but this way, they got delayed and everything turned around.
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sickest counter attack ever
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that was insane from classic, just went for it with much lower army supply and without +3, still bopped.
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They didn't think Classic's army could win
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On October 28 2018 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wowwww Nerchio threw that game so hard.
I don't think that was a throw...
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i thought classic was so dead there
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Strange game, Nerchio's macro in the early game made no sense to me, and yet he still almost won. Classic pretty unconvincing so far tbh
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On October 28 2018 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wowwww Nerchio threw that game so hard.
What was the mistake you specifically refer to?
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On October 28 2018 03:32 Elentos wrote:They didn't think Classic's army could win
the zealot flank to draw the locust fire won the fight
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On October 28 2018 03:32 Elentos wrote:They didn't think Classic's army could win
Yeah I was wondering as well when they said that, Classics army looked pretty strong.
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On October 28 2018 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:32 Elentos wrote:They didn't think Classic's army could win the zealot flank to draw the locust fire won the fight
Well if that doesn't the warp prism does.
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On October 28 2018 03:32 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wowwww Nerchio threw that game so hard. I don't think that was a throw...
yeah i didn't see any terrible decisions made by Nerchio
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On October 28 2018 03:31 Nakajin wrote:
Daaaamn that call by Classic was clutch as hell
Indeed, great call. He went straight in as soon as Nerchio was overextended.
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On October 28 2018 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:32 Elentos wrote:They didn't think Classic's army could win the zealot flank to draw the locust fire won the fight
Nah locusts would have died so fast anyway
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zealot flank didn't matter much, this game was over with how bad Nerchio's micro was, and with how many swarm hosts he lost for no reason
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On October 28 2018 03:34 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:32 Charoisaur wrote:On October 28 2018 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wowwww Nerchio threw that game so hard. I don't think that was a throw... yeah i didn't see any terrible decisions made by Nerchio
It wasn't exactly a throw but Nerchio over extend and his engage maybe wasn't the best. If he had pull back the swarm host in the natural instead than in the 3rd would have been better I think? Don't know for sure but Classic definitely pick his moment very well.
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if you account for the fact that getting into close quarters with SHs and limiting maneuver greatly limits their power, it wasn't such a surprise that Classic managed to win, Nerchio's army supply was not that big.
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On October 28 2018 03:39 Scarlett` wrote:
hydra bane all in xd
Average LR read ... smh
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why does nerchio make no drones but then ends up droning really late????
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On October 28 2018 03:41 blooblooblahblah wrote:
why does nerchio make no drones but then ends up droning really late????
fear of eu toss cheesers gave him a bad habit.
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Classic is super ahead right?
Edit: Well now he is lol
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are swarmhosts normal in pvz? or just a nerchio thing?
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On October 28 2018 03:44 Nakajin wrote:
Classic is super ahead right?
Yes.
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man those locusts that just stayed in the air...
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Nerchio's army lead before was so deceiving. SHs are pretty much useless in between locust rounds and against massive splash.
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Poor execution by nerchio, he made it funny tho.
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What would have Serral done tho
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On October 28 2018 03:46 Poopi wrote:
What would have Serral done tho
Not make SHs
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On October 28 2018 03:44 Paljas wrote:
are swarmhosts normal in pvz? or just a nerchio thing?
Are swarmhosts normal in any matchup 
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On October 28 2018 03:46 Poopi wrote:
What would have Serral done tho
Roaches and hatcheries
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On October 28 2018 03:46 Poopi wrote:
What would have Serral done tho
Not built SHs?
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That game wasnt even close
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On October 28 2018 03:46 Alchemik wrote:
are we gonna get an xd
He behaves at the global finals!
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this is where it feels really sad we dont have Reynor in this tournament.
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lol he keeps miscontrolling his locusts
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why didn't Nerchio just play like Serral?
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Good resistance from Nerchio but Classic a bit too strong
Hopefully Special doesn't get destroyed
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On October 28 2018 03:47 opisska wrote:Not built SHs?
Or having a better control of his locusts, the first wage did not even land completly.
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On October 28 2018 03:39 Scarlett` wrote:
hydra bane all in xd
I think Classic expected exactly that... that's why he made infinity cannons
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On October 28 2018 03:50 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:47 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:46 Poopi wrote:
What would have Serral done tho Not built SHs? Or having a better control of his locusts, the first wage did not even land completly.
I think literally every other unit had done a better job.
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I have the feeling that the SH strategies were something that could have looked extremely cool if Classic was a little bit worse of a player but it looked so bad because it was not the case, kinda like sOs/Has or even MKP's old plays.
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I'm very excited for the next match
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Where dat snitch at?36990 Posts
I missed Dark vs ShoWTimE. Can anyone give me a brief recap of how ShoWTimE 2-0'ed Dark?
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I think nerchio showed a lot of good things. Most of his problems were control issues. Maybe a bit of nerves.
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On October 28 2018 03:54 Seeker wrote:
I missed Dark vs ShoWTimE. Can anyone give me a brief recap of how ShoWTimE 2-0'ed Dark?
Proxy hatch got scouted, 10 minutes death after that
G2 Dark headbutted into Showtime with ling bling Hydra, dank statis ward into carriers
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Nooooo don't retire Classic
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On October 28 2018 03:54 Seeker wrote:
I missed Dark vs ShoWTimE. Can anyone give me a brief recap of how ShoWTimE 2-0'ed Dark?
Scouted a proxy hatch game 1 then game 2 defended well until getting a carrier army.
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On October 28 2018 03:53 opisska wrote:
I have the feeling that the SH strategies were something that could have looked extremely cool if Classic was a little bit worse of a player but it looked so bad because it was not the case, kinda like sOs/Has or even MKP's old plays.
SH is super legit in ZvP, Nerchio honestly just didn't play well enough and literally mismicro'd most of his waves (most of his locusts didn't even land and he kept "kiting" them with his army, must be a control group thing).
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On October 28 2018 03:51 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:50 stilt wrote:On October 28 2018 03:47 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 03:46 Poopi wrote:
What would have Serral done tho Not built SHs? Or having a better control of his locusts, the first wage did not even land completly. I think literally every other unit had done a better job.
I don't know enough, you might be right but it could have worked better at least, I kinda like Artur, I am a bit disappointed of this last game even if the result was expected.
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On October 28 2018 03:54 Seeker wrote:
I missed Dark vs ShoWTimE. Can anyone give me a brief recap of how ShoWTimE 2-0'ed Dark?
The recap is in writers forum :D
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@Seeker In game 1 Dark proxied a hatch at Showtime's third which was scouted immediately. He had planned to plant spinecrawlers there, but sent the drones home when Showtime responded well. Game still went fairly long as Showtime took his time as expected. Had some good harass with adepts+prism. Eventually out-econed him.
Game 2 Dark tried to play very aggressive with multipronged attacks with ling+bane. But showtime lived up to his 'die mauer' moniker. Showtime turtled til carriers and slowly wiped him off the map. Dark did kill like 20 workers at one point with baneling drops, but it was at a point where Showtime's army was already starting to look indestructible. Dark looked like a frustrated predator pacing around a fence most of the game.
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most exciting match so far inc, hoping laranjito makes it
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The breaks between the games are way too long.
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On October 28 2018 04:05 Steroidbrucie wrote:
The breaks between the games are way too long.
I think it's been okay so far, yesterday was way worse.
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Awesome for showtime! Met him once, amazingly charismatic and nice person. He's the world champion we don't deserve.
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On October 28 2018 04:05 Steroidbrucie wrote:
The breaks between the games are way too long.
Today has been much better and shorter on breaks.
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Oh yeah, MajOr in Proleague was quite something.
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Production stepped it up today. yesterday was a torture. today its fine for me. 6minutes are good to get some food or just write some stuff here
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Man I was gone and did not see the games, how did Dark lose?
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If NoRegret put half as much thought into his game as he does in growing his foreigner army he would be word champion.
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On October 28 2018 04:11 Toua wrote:
Man I was gone and did not see the games, how did Dark lose?
On October 28 2018 03:59 SetStndbySmn wrote:
@Seeker In game 1 Dark proxied a hatch at Showtime's third which was scouted immediately. He had planned to plant spinecrawlers there, but sent the drones home when Showtime responded well. Game still went fairly long as Showtime took his time as expected. Had some good harass with adepts+prism. Eventually out-econed him.
Game 2 Dark tried to play very aggressive with multipronged attacks with ling+bane. But showtime lived up to his 'die mauer' moniker. Showtime turtled til carriers and slowly wiped him off the map. Dark did kill like 20 workers at one point with baneling drops, but it was at a point where Showtime's army was already starting to look indestructible. Dark looked like a frustrated predator pacing around a fence most of the game.
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That was a nice doc. I loled when TY thought he was 28 years old.
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The SpeciaL SIgnature is fantastic!
The amount of work and talent that goes into these videos is unbelievable.
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On October 28 2018 04:13 opisska wrote:
The SpeciaL SIgnature is fantastic!
The amount of work and talent that goes into these videos is unbelievable.
It's definitely my favorite. It has the rise, the fall, and the resurgence. The whole storyline.
You can feel Juan's passion and pain through the vid.
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On October 28 2018 04:12 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:11 Toua wrote:
Man I was gone and did not see the games, how did Dark lose? Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 03:59 SetStndbySmn wrote:
@Seeker In game 1 Dark proxied a hatch at Showtime's third which was scouted immediately. He had planned to plant spinecrawlers there, but sent the drones home when Showtime responded well. Game still went fairly long as Showtime took his time as expected. Had some good harass with adepts+prism. Eventually out-econed him.
Game 2 Dark tried to play very aggressive with multipronged attacks with ling+bane. But showtime lived up to his 'die mauer' moniker. Showtime turtled til carriers and slowly wiped him off the map. Dark did kill like 20 workers at one point with baneling drops, but it was at a point where Showtime's army was already starting to look indestructible. Dark looked like a frustrated predator pacing around a fence most of the game.
Thanks, I like ShoWTimE but Dark and Stats are my faves so hope they both make it
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On October 28 2018 04:14 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:13 opisska wrote:
The SpeciaL SIgnature is fantastic!
The amount of work and talent that goes into these videos is unbelievable. It's definitely my favorite. It has the rise, the fall, and the resurgence. The whole storyline. You can feel Juan's passion and pain through the vid.
Yeah, my opinion of him is instantly improved by this. I haven't really known him much, just seen his sometimes erratic beahviour. This explains a lot and paints a picture of redemption.
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On October 28 2018 04:13 opisska wrote:
The SpeciaL SIgnature is fantastic!
The amount of work and talent that goes into these videos is unbelievable.
Yeah this series is excellent, don't remember something as good in SC2.
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On October 28 2018 04:16 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:13 opisska wrote:
The SpeciaL SIgnature is fantastic!
The amount of work and talent that goes into these videos is unbelievable. Yeah this series is excellent, don't remember something as good in SC2.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Well that was kinda rude...
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On October 28 2018 04:16 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:13 opisska wrote:
The SpeciaL SIgnature is fantastic!
The amount of work and talent that goes into these videos is unbelievable. Yeah this series is excellent, don't remember something as good in SC2.
Fully agree. All around Blizzcon is getting better every year.
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Well this was actually the worst possible opening ever for Rogue
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Damnit Rogue. Why are you so hard to root for T.T
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lambo defended this better. another point for EU zergs
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That's an ugly natural for Special lol
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Losing 11 drones to 4 hellions and one reaper, was that worth it?
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On October 28 2018 04:26 JoeCool wrote:
Losing 11 drones to 4 hellions and one reaper, was that worth it?
Yes, by miles. Especially when he had little drones already due to wasting larva on lings that did nothing.
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Man Special is looking good!
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On October 28 2018 04:26 JoeCool wrote:
Losing 11 drones to 4 hellions and one reaper, was that worth it?
It is when the zerg has a high zergling count, not really if the zerg droned a lot. (It was this game)
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Shouldve made hydras like the patchzerg you are
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Rogue is better than Serral?
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Nice execution by Special
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Yeah maru, rogue ist just as good as serral
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Rogue didnt scout the hellions and massed lings congrats
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Foreigners playing so good
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Nice!! non koreans doing well!
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On October 28 2018 04:30 RaFox17 wrote:
Rogue is better than Serral?
Why didn't Rogue play like Serral?
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Rogue doesn't look good
Hopefully Maru is in shape to beat Serral even tho his practice partner is worse
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Can someone post that gif of TRUE and Major from Proleague please?
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Rogue going to get knocked out.
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I have no doubt, rogue will still win this
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What would have king Serral done tho
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Rogue scouted the wall after he had already made the lings, can't really blame anyone but himself for that loss.
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On October 28 2018 04:31 Poopi wrote:
What would have king Serral done tho
Not let those hellions kill all of his workers for no reason
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Lovely game from Special! <3
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I feel like Rogue could've just sent the overlord forward enough to see the natural wall while still keeping the overlord safe. I bet he wouldn't have committed to all those lings if he saw that initially.
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did anyone get the drops? I surely watched 4h+++ hours and I still didn't get anything. No notification or whatever else.
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Come on Rogue, you're not going to kill Special early game... show us your good games!
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Serral would've seen the wall, seen the move out, nothing gets past Serral. Rogue might be slightly mechanically better, but it doesn't compensate for how much smarter Serral is.
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On October 28 2018 04:34 IshinShishi wrote:
Serral would've seen the wall, seen the move out, nothing gets past Serral. Rogue might be slightly mechanically better, but it doesn't compensate for how much smarter Serral is.
Serral is the best mechanically isn't he?
Serral king Serral
Show us mercy
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Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people?
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On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people?
Who's the other one?
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Who would win?
- A biomech build that took the last month to prepare
- 16 lingy bois
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On October 28 2018 04:39 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people? Who's the other one?
Kelazhur?
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Another game decided by a small mistake... sc2 so unforgiving.
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I looked away for a sec what happen?
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Jinair's teamhouse environment is just too strong!
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On October 28 2018 04:39 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:39 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people? Who's the other one? Kelazhur?
NA geography LUL
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On October 28 2018 04:39 Durnuu wrote:
Who would win?
- A biomech build that took the last month to prepare
- 16 lingy bois
Rogues defense was pretty good though.
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On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people?
zer0 from smash bros?
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On October 28 2018 04:39 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people? Who's the other one?
MKLeo. Top 3 in the world, famous for his love of K-Pop groups and started learning Korean this week.
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On October 28 2018 04:40 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people? zer0 from smash bros?
Well EU geography isn't better
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On October 28 2018 04:41 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:40 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people? zer0 from smash bros? Well EU geography isn't better
Welp they are both big guys with the same skin color!
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terrans are dying to ling runbies after a move out ever since Life was around, one would think that they would hotkey that damn depot by now.
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On October 28 2018 04:43 IshinShishi wrote:
terrans are dying to ling runbies after a move out ever since Life was around, one would think that they would hotkey that damn depot by now.
Holy fuck that's such a good idea why did I never thought of that.
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I rate this play by Rogue 0.85 Serrals
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some terrible biles whoops
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Not repairing his units is gonna haunt Special
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clownfiesta tvz with queen drop micro, I love it.
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Bio mech or how to die in style
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I rate Rogues play 2.5 Serrals
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Gogogo Special!!!
Wreck himmm!!
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Rogue dropped his units three times into Specials base and special is still not considering building turrets?
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Great game great australian casting
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laranjito too slow to deal with rogues multitask
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I hate when commentators try to hype the dead match. You just need to look at supplies.
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Rogue has this one in the bag
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And we still have no idea what Rogues form really is like, lol.
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Rogue is actually good again guys :D
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On October 28 2018 04:54 Odoakar wrote:
I hate when commentators try to hype the dead match. You just need to look at supplies.
Supply here was decieving - so much Rogue's supply was in roaches (supply-inefficient) and SHs (can only fight once in a blue moon). It was much closer than it looked like, armies weren't that far from each other, SpeciaL lost on not being to hold another base.
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gg wp, good effort by special.
but nothing he could do against the best zerg in world
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On October 28 2018 04:51 JoeCool wrote:
Rogue dropped his units three times into Specials base and special is still not considering building turrets?
Or one viking.
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On October 28 2018 04:54 Odoakar wrote:
I hate when commentators try to hype the dead match. You just need to look at supplies.
this game in particular could've easily gone in special's way, Rogue was kind of allin the entire game, Special needed just a bit of a breathing room or to react fast enough
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On October 28 2018 04:56 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:54 Odoakar wrote:
I hate when commentators try to hype the dead match. You just need to look at supplies. Supply here was decieving - so much Rogue's supply was in roaches (supply-inefficient) and SHs (can only fight once in a blue moon). It was much closer than it looked like, armies weren't that far from each other, SpeciaL lost on not being to hold another base.
I love it if someone explains how the game works for ppl who have no idea and are talking something down
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On October 28 2018 04:57 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:54 Odoakar wrote:
I hate when commentators try to hype the dead match. You just need to look at supplies. this game in particular could've easily gone in special's way, Rogue was kind of allin the entire game, Special needed just a bit of a breathing room or to react fast enough
If Special managed to build up his marine count enough to kill those locusts he would have been able to hold which would have won him the game for sure.
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Rogue wants to play Serral? As expected from a bonjwa, he doesnt avoid any competition
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Can we talk about how much of tragedy it is that the only pro team we have left is the one with the weird uniform and a fake blue tie?
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On October 28 2018 05:02 Nakajin wrote:
Can we talk about how much of tragedy it is that the only pro team we have left is the one with the weird uniform and a fake blue tie?
Have some respect, on some uniforms the tie is RED
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I can't read the time anymore.
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Stats vs Showtime, this is going to be a tough one.
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Finally time has been adapted in the metric system.
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I'm really looking forward to Stats v Showtime, should be a good one.
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Today's game have been very good overall a lot of close one.
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On October 28 2018 05:05 nimbim wrote:
I'm really looking forward to Stats v Showtime, should be a good one.
As do I, could be a really good PvP series!
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I really think there's no reason to not do bo5 with the amount of downtime they have. Just cut the downtime in favor of more games
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yeah bo5 is needed at this point, or maybe some hybrid making the deciders and the winners bo5 and rest bo3
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On October 28 2018 05:07 Charoisaur wrote:
I really think there's no reason to not do bo5 with the amount of downtime they have. Just cut the downtime in favor of more games
Players still need time to adjust their gears and settings so no unfortunately.
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On October 28 2018 05:11 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:07 Charoisaur wrote:
I really think there's no reason to not do bo5 with the amount of downtime they have. Just cut the downtime in favor of more games Players still need time to adjust their gears and settings so no unfortunately.
they can use double booth a la proleague
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On October 28 2018 05:11 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:07 Charoisaur wrote:
I really think there's no reason to not do bo5 with the amount of downtime they have. Just cut the downtime in favor of more games Players still need time to adjust their gears and settings so no unfortunately.
Maybe have two sets of computers like any other tournament would
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On October 28 2018 05:02 Nakajin wrote:
Can we talk about how much of tragedy it is that the only pro team we have left is the one with the weird uniform and a fake blue tie?
The fact that this team is the former Team 8 makes it even weirder.
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On October 28 2018 05:19 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:02 Nakajin wrote:
Can we talk about how much of tragedy it is that the only pro team we have left is the one with the weird uniform and a fake blue tie? The fact that this team is the former Team 8 makes it even weirder.
When team 8 was founded not many people would've betted on them being the last remaining team.
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On October 28 2018 05:21 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:19 Boucot wrote:On October 28 2018 05:02 Nakajin wrote:
Can we talk about how much of tragedy it is that the only pro team we have left is the one with the weird uniform and a fake blue tie? The fact that this team is the former Team 8 makes it even weirder. When team 8 was founded not many people would've betted on them being the last remaining team.
Yeah that's why I said that haha. The poor sponsorless (well not anymore) team that outlasted the juggernauts SKT, KT, Samsung KHAN etc.
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I really want Showtime to win, a second match with Dark will probably turn out differently.
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i've never seen showtime winning a dogfight game
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Could Stats not have killed all the probes there?
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On October 28 2018 05:28 ShAd_1337 wrote:
i've never seen showtime winning a dogfight game
He won one against Neeb iirc.
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fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week
perhaps going for it at WCSGF isn't the best idea
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The Wall vs THE BIGGER WALL
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phoenix vs phoenix pvp is terrible
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this is why I don't play Protoss
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Showtime's range is always late in Phoenix vs Phoenix games :/
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On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week
im the meme build expert
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Mhm... not what I wanted to see.
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Now DT vs DT please (if that still exists)
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Almost a copy paste of his game against Classic. Same build, Stats takes an early lead, game over.
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Showtime vs Showtime, now this is a mirrormatch.
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On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert
why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about
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On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about
just wait for finals of pig's tournament
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On October 28 2018 05:34 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about just wait for finals of pig's tournament
Spoiler alert??
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On October 28 2018 05:34 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about just wait for finals of pig's tournament
i'm very curious to see what your terran will do with some prep time
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On October 28 2018 05:32 DBooN wrote:
Showtime vs Showtime, now this is a mirrormatch.
Yeah Anion Pulse Crystals will actually finish at the same time!
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On October 28 2018 05:38 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:34 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about just wait for finals of pig's tournament Spoiler alert??
we havent played yet; i think it will be cast live after blizzcon
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Showtime nooooo
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Stats doesn't have many probes... but still significantly more than Showtime.
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On October 28 2018 05:42 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:38 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 05:34 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about just wait for finals of pig's tournament Spoiler alert?? we havent played yet; i think it will be cast live after blizzcon
Are you against the Big Gabe?
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On October 28 2018 05:45 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:42 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:38 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 05:34 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about just wait for finals of pig's tournament Spoiler alert?? we havent played yet; i think it will be cast live after blizzcon Are you against the Big Gabe?
yea
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Stats definitely a hot contender for this years title.
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Meh, Showtime was too scared. He backed off at the first big fight when he didn't really seem like losing which made him lose a lot of stuff.
Stats obviously great though. He's my pick if you ask me who can knock down Maru or Serral.
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How much sound problems we have in this tournament?
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Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe
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On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe
Unless the Czech Republic becomes an important esports destination, because it literally means "I am shitting" in Czech
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On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe
"seru" means in Czech "I shit"(and yes, it's really this rude) Awesome name
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On October 28 2018 05:46 HolydaKing wrote:
Meh, Showtime was too scared. He backed off at the first big fight when he didn't really seem like losing which made him lose a lot of stuff.
Stats obviously great though. He's my pick if you ask me who can knock down Maru or Serral.
Stats is just so consistently good, I would not be surprised at all to see him at least make the semi finals
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I, for one, would welcome our new overlord "I shit/ I am shitting"
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Seru could say he Serus all over his opponents
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On October 28 2018 05:51 Penev wrote:
I, for one, would welcome our new overlord "I shit/ I am shitting"
We did post that nicely synced, didn't we There is no grammar distinction in Czech between "I shit" and "I am shitting", so there was this freedom of choice at least
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@SGTK it's
I seru
you sereš
he sere
we sereme
you serete
they serou
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On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe
Marill
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/m6Jvcwd.png)
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On October 28 2018 05:49 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe Unless the Czech Republic becomes an important esports destination, because it literally means "I am shitting" in Czech
On October 28 2018 05:49 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe "seru" means in Czech "I shit"(and yes, it's really this rude) Awesome name
My plan is ruined. By Czechs, no less
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Hey TL, lets play another game. Which player is this:
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/XIBTcLo.png)
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this is a rematch of what tournament?
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On October 28 2018 05:57 Topin wrote:
this is a rematch of what tournament?
IEM Katowice
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On October 28 2018 05:54 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:49 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe Unless the Czech Republic becomes an important esports destination, because it literally means "I am shitting" in Czech Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:49 deacon.frost wrote:On October 28 2018 05:48 argonautdice wrote:
Seru would be the most insane Fusion in the history of the universe "seru" means in Czech "I shit"(and yes, it's really this rude) Awesome name My plan is ruined. By Czechs, no less
We ruin plans of others and drink the most beer per capita. Maybe it has some connection
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On October 28 2018 05:57 Charoisaur wrote:IEM Katowice
thanks!
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So far all the favourite won their group, lets see if Classic can do the same
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Maybe don't use terrible stock music next time Blizzard, the game soundtrack would be much better.
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On October 28 2018 05:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
How much sound problems we have in this tournament?
Somehow the music sounds better in the Horuss Tv spanish channel than in the official one... weird
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how was Special vs Rogue? I went out and played a pick up game of soccer and missed it
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anyone have any idea who the blurred out hwaseung OZ player was?
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On October 28 2018 06:03 starkiller123 wrote:
how was Special vs Rogue? I went out and played a pick up game of soccer and missed it
Pretty good, not super long macro game but it's still worth a watch especially game 2 and 3.
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These documentary bits are incredible. Really enjoying this story about Hwaseung oz and Rogue's path.
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On October 28 2018 06:06 atrox_ wrote:
anyone have any idea who the blurred out hwaseung Oz player was?
I guess ShinHwA ?
edit: wow tlpd broke
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On October 28 2018 06:06 atrox_ wrote:
anyone have any idea who the blurred out hwaseung OZ player was?
sky
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On October 28 2018 05:45 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 05:45 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 05:42 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:38 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 05:34 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 28 2018 05:31 Scarlett` wrote:On October 28 2018 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
fun fact: showtime lost phoenix vs phoenix to scarlett last week im the meme build expert why use any other kind? meme builds are what sc2 is all about just wait for finals of pig's tournament Spoiler alert?? we havent played yet; i think it will be cast live after blizzcon Are you against the Big Gabe? yea
Should be a good match then, not the first time you beat pros with another race
Poor DRG
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lmao, "Winners gonna win" well said Jaedong
also wtf at Dark losing to Showtime
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On October 28 2018 06:09 Xamo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:06 atrox_ wrote:
anyone have any idea who the blurred out hwaseung OZ player was? sky
why would sky be blurred?
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oh wow... did not know that. Thanks
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How were Classic v Nerchio games? I believe he played him, unless my mind is playing tricks on me again
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Wait is SoS already out?
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On October 28 2018 06:15 Sabu113 wrote:Wait is SoS already out?
no
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On October 28 2018 06:14 deacon.frost wrote:How were Classic v Nerchio games? I believe he played him, unless my mind is playing tricks on me again
Not great. King Arthur pulled out SHs and kinda failed in both games.
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On October 28 2018 06:16 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:14 deacon.frost wrote:How were Classic v Nerchio games? I believe he played him, unless my mind is playing tricks on me again Not great. King Arthur pulled out SHs and kinda failed in both games.
SH you say? I need to check them.
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This is so sad. Thanks for the link.
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Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate?
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On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate?
You can see the shape in the light while it's building.
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On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate?
I believe so, on high graphics. not on low where I play.
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he really should have killed that archon. shield battery carried there.
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Whatever the result, I absolutely love the bluntness of Rogue's build.
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On October 28 2018 06:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate? I believe so, on high graphics. not on low where I play.
You can do it on low too, or at least on the lowest setting I can.
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On October 28 2018 06:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Scouting nydus, new meta
On the test map it's cheaper right?
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God swarmhosts are such a dumb unit.
Free units are such bad design.
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$O$ gave his soul to Rogue
This guy is there to take money
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The observer camera during this fight was just perfect with slight camera shifts into to the developments.
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On October 28 2018 06:27 Sabu113 wrote:
God swarmhosts are such a dumb unit.
Free units are such bad design.
It is similar to protos shields.
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On October 28 2018 06:27 Sabu113 wrote:
God swarmhosts are such a dumb unit.
Free units are such bad design.
Yeah free unit / dps then cooldown is annoying
Like disruptor / swarmhost / BC tp
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tasteless, the loudest caster of all time
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On October 28 2018 06:31 bubak wrote:
tasteless, the loudest caster of all time
Maynarde
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On October 28 2018 06:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate? I believe so, on high graphics. not on low where I play.
Even on low you can iirc.
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On October 28 2018 06:31 leublix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate? I believe so, on high graphics. not on low where I play. Even on low you can iirc.
So then I am just dumb
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On October 28 2018 06:31 leublix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate? I believe so, on high graphics. not on low where I play. Even on low you can iirc.
What, how?
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On October 28 2018 06:30 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:27 Sabu113 wrote:
God swarmhosts are such a dumb unit.
Free units are such bad design. Yeah free unit / dps then cooldown is annoying Like disruptor / swarmhost / BC tp
Doesn't 'dps then cooldown' describe every attacking unit in the game apart from the sentry and the void ray?
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On October 28 2018 06:31 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:31 bubak wrote:
tasteless, the loudest caster of all time Maynarde
Vasacast
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On October 28 2018 06:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:30 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 06:27 Sabu113 wrote:
God swarmhosts are such a dumb unit.
Free units are such bad design. Yeah free unit / dps then cooldown is annoying Like disruptor / swarmhost / BC tp Doesn't 'dps then cooldown' describe every attacking unit in the game apart from the sentry and the void ray?
Most units either just attack or are energy based so you have counterplay
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Classic looking really sloppy.
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Rogue is playing like Serral.
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On October 28 2018 06:34 HolydaKing wrote:
Rogue is playing like Serral.
Not even. It's Classic who's playing like sOs.
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Wooooo shitty reavers! gogogoogogo
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On October 28 2018 06:34 HolydaKing wrote:
Rogue is playing like Serral.
Rogue is playing like peak Rogue - which is better than Serral
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7 years later. Kills a single queen. Genius.
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Rogue plays like God though ...
... saves the Queen!
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On October 28 2018 06:31 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:31 leublix wrote:On October 28 2018 06:23 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 06:22 Xamo wrote:
Is it possible to distinguish if it is an Oracle or a Fenix being built at the stargate? I believe so, on high graphics. not on low where I play. Even on low you can iirc. What, how?
You watch in the stargate and it show a kind of translucent image of the unit moving a bit inside it
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Damn that WP micro hahaha
Well never mind....
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that was a really sick build though
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and that's game ladies and gents
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Classic's build looks sick, sad rogue scouted it
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Well 9 hours til good games.
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Jeez Rogue you're a confusing one
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Great ideas for Classic in both games, but too many unforced mistakes.
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On October 27 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
My sig is empty, the first person to predict the first and second player to advance of each group gets to fill it. I won't change it for 3 months.
Only posts after this comment count and you have time until the first map of the ro16 starts. Group A: Maru, Neeb Group B: Serral, sOs Group C: Stats, Dark Group D: Rogue, Classic
On track thus far
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It's BlizzCon Rogue ladies and gentlemen...
Maru, Serral, Stats and Rogue at 4-0.
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On October 28 2018 06:42 Poopi wrote:
It's BlizzCon Rogue ladies and gentlemen...
Maru, Serral, Stats and Rogue at 4-0.
Rogue dropped a map to Special.
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On October 28 2018 06:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:30 Poopi wrote:On October 28 2018 06:27 Sabu113 wrote:
God swarmhosts are such a dumb unit.
Free units are such bad design. Yeah free unit / dps then cooldown is annoying Like disruptor / swarmhost / BC tp Doesn't 'dps then cooldown' describe every attacking unit in the game apart from the sentry and the void ray?
Well the lasors of Protss units or bullets of terran units doesn't block you from walking and killin the unit, while locusts/broodlings do exactly that. Even the god damn carrier, you can ignore the interceptors and you can go through and kill the carrier itself. You can't do this against BLs or SHs. That's my view on that(and yes, disruptor is similarly idiotic unit)
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On October 28 2018 06:42 Poopi wrote:
It's BlizzCon Rogue ladies and gentlemen...
Maru, Serral, Stats and Rogue at 4-0.
Rogue dropped a map to Special
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On October 28 2018 06:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Sound guy please
MLG sound guy found a new job? (I hope it was MLG meme )
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On October 28 2018 06:44 deacon.frost wrote:MLG sound guy found a new job? (I hope it was MLG meme )
NASL, though MLG had their fair share of problems too. Really we should just call it Starcraft Sound Guy
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On October 28 2018 06:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:44 deacon.frost wrote:On October 28 2018 06:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Sound guy please MLG sound guy found a new job? (I hope it was MLG meme ) NASL, though MLG had their fair share of problems too. Really we should just call it Starcraft Sound Guy
No way EU is going to share the shame
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I do not think that Classic is too much worried vs Nerchio or Special, though.
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On October 28 2018 06:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:44 deacon.frost wrote:On October 28 2018 06:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Sound guy please MLG sound guy found a new job? (I hope it was MLG meme ) NASL, though MLG had their fair share of problems too. Really we should just call it Starcraft Sound Guy
OH YES! Those are the letters I was looking for YES!!! I'm bad with names, applies to the names of tourneys/companies/etc. too
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On October 28 2018 06:47 Xamo wrote:
I do not think that Classic is too much worried vs Nerchio or Special, though.
BO3 is IMO too volatile to predict and I dare to say it's even more volatile in LotV because of the rushed start. But I believe in Classis too
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On October 28 2018 06:43 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:42 Poopi wrote:
It's BlizzCon Rogue ladies and gentlemen...
Maru, Serral, Stats and Rogue at 4-0.
Rogue dropped a map to Special.
Oh yeah forgot that, nice catch!
So basically only Maru, Serral and Stats are invincible. The best of their respective race so not that surprising!
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On October 28 2018 06:42 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
My sig is empty, the first person to predict the first and second player to advance of each group gets to fill it. I won't change it for 3 months.
Only posts after this comment count and you have time until the first map of the ro16 starts. Group A: Maru, Neeb Group B: Serral, sOs Group C: Stats, Dark Group D: Rogue, Classic On track thus far
You should thank me honestly
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On October 28 2018 06:42 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
My sig is empty, the first person to predict the first and second player to advance of each group gets to fill it. I won't change it for 3 months.
Only posts after this comment count and you have time until the first map of the ro16 starts. Group A: Maru, Neeb Group B: Serral, sOs Group C: Stats, Dark Group D: Rogue, Classic On track thus far
How confident are you in sOs?
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On October 28 2018 07:00 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 06:42 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
My sig is empty, the first person to predict the first and second player to advance of each group gets to fill it. I won't change it for 3 months.
Only posts after this comment count and you have time until the first map of the ro16 starts. Group A: Maru, Neeb Group B: Serral, sOs Group C: Stats, Dark Group D: Rogue, Classic On track thus far How confident are you in sOs?
-sOs has won every blizzcon he attended
-the last 2 blizzcon winners lost their first match to a foreigner
very confident.
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All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket...
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On October 28 2018 07:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 07:00 DBooN wrote:On October 28 2018 06:42 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
My sig is empty, the first person to predict the first and second player to advance of each group gets to fill it. I won't change it for 3 months.
Only posts after this comment count and you have time until the first map of the ro16 starts. Group A: Maru, Neeb Group B: Serral, sOs Group C: Stats, Dark Group D: Rogue, Classic On track thus far How confident are you in sOs? -the last 2 blizzcon winners lost their first match to a foreigner very confident.
Nice, TY World Champion.
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On October 28 2018 07:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket...
33% chance. Otherwise they meet in the semis
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On October 28 2018 07:24 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 07:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket... 33% chance. Otherwise they meet in the semis
What? Is it random draw?
Where is that written?
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On October 28 2018 07:28 Xamo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 07:24 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket... 33% chance. Otherwise they meet in the semis What? Is it random draw? Where is that written?
Group winners can't be in the QF match. 1/2 chance to determine side of bracket. 3 slots left for other player which is 2/3 chance of being on opposite side. Multiply and we get 1/3
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On October 28 2018 07:33 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 07:28 Xamo wrote:On October 28 2018 07:24 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket... 33% chance. Otherwise they meet in the semis What? Is it random draw? Where is that written? Group winners can't be in the same QF match. Draw is done with group winners first pulled then second place drawn to fit in. 1/2 chance to determine side of bracket maru is on. 3 slots left for Serral which is 2/3 chance of being on opposite side. Multiply and we get 1/3
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Be that as it may, when I take a gander at the playoff section on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon site, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anyone know whether Maru and Serral will be
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On October 28 2018 08:09 aminoos wrote:
Be that as it may, when I take a gander at the playoff section on Liquipedia or the Blizzcon site, I can't tell how they will be seeded in the playoffs. Does anyone know whether Maru and Serral will be
they will make the bracket after group stage completes, the only rule is that a first place player can't play another first place and same for second place players
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On October 28 2018 07:34 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 07:33 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:28 Xamo wrote:On October 28 2018 07:24 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket... 33% chance. Otherwise they meet in the semis What? Is it random draw? Where is that written? Group winners can't be in the same QF match. Draw is done with group winners first pulled then second place drawn to fit in. 1/2 chance to determine side of bracket maru is on. 3 slots left for Serral which is 2/3 chance of being on opposite side. Multiply and we get 1/3
Isn’t it 2/3 chances that Maru and Serral are on opposite side actually?
Like (1/2*2/3)*2 + 2(1/2*1/3) =1
Like:
1/2 shot Maru side A 2/3 Serral side B
1/2 shot Maru side B 2/3 Serral side A
1/2 shot Maru side A 1/3 Serral side A
1/2 shot Maru side B 1/3 Serral side B
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On October 28 2018 08:55 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 07:34 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:33 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:28 Xamo wrote:On October 28 2018 07:24 Parrek wrote:On October 28 2018 07:11 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
All I gotta to say is:
They better make sure Serral and Maru are on opposite sides of the bracket... 33% chance. Otherwise they meet in the semis What? Is it random draw? Where is that written? Group winners can't be in the same QF match. Draw is done with group winners first pulled then second place drawn to fit in. 1/2 chance to determine side of bracket maru is on. 3 slots left for Serral which is 2/3 chance of being on opposite side. Multiply and we get 1/3 Isn’t it 2/3 chances that Maru and Serral are on opposite side actually? Like (1/2*2/3)*2 + 2(1/2*1/3) =1 Like: 1/2 shot Maru side A 2/3 Serral side B 1/2 shot Maru side B 2/3 Serral side A 1/2 shot Maru side A 1/3 Serral side A 1/2 shot Maru side B 1/3 Serral side B ?
this is correct, 2/3 chance they will be on opposite side
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On October 28 2018 04:41 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2018 04:39 opisska wrote:On October 28 2018 04:37 Circumstance wrote:
Isn't it sort of strange that "Mexican pro gamer, among the best in the world in his game, with a well-known love of Koreans" describes two different people? Who's the other one? MKLeo. Top 3 in the world, famous for his love of K-Pop groups and started learning Korean this week.
Mega Culture right here
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