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[WCS] 2018 Valencia - EU Challenger

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Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1223 Posts
June 13 2018 13:28 GMT
#1
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Group Stage:
Group A: Wednesday, Jun 13 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Group B: Thursday, Jun 14 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Group C: Saturday, Jun 16 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Group D: Sunday, Jun 17 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Playoffs:
Saturday, Jun 23 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)





GROUP STAGE

Group A: (Z)Serral (T)HeRoMaRinE (Z)Stephano (Z)Namshar
Group B: (P)MaNa (Z)Snute (P)PtitDrogo (P)Rail
Group C: (P)ShoWTimE (Z)Lambo (Z)Bly (T)souL
Group D: (Z)Nerchio (T)uThermal (Z)SortOf (T)Clem
PLAYOFFS
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
June 13 2018 13:37 GMT
#2
Gogo stephano, he can beat Heromarine twice !
However he is so doom in zvz!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
June 13 2018 14:36 GMT
#3
Only took 35 minutes to get some gameplay
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 13 2018 14:38 GMT
#4
On June 13 2018 23:36 Elentos wrote:
Only took 35 minutes to get some gameplay

The music was enjoyable though.
why even
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
June 13 2018 14:46 GMT
#5
Solid micro from Serral in that engagement. Perfect repositioning to keep his reinforcement stream protected, swinging just enough roaches up to the north to get a surround and push on new waves.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 13 2018 14:58 GMT
#6
Was some good roaching by Joona.
why even
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 13 2018 15:01 GMT
#7
Serral just always looks like he knows something about using roaches that his opponent doesn't in ZvZ. It's weird to watch how he'll go into a maxed engagement against say Nerchio, and just crush it. Like same upgrades and all, but it doesn't matter.
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
June 13 2018 15:13 GMT
#8
Are we really still doing the "Stephano doesn't care, practice, or study at all" meme?
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
June 13 2018 15:17 GMT
#9
What a bad game lol
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 09:23:41
June 13 2018 15:59 GMT
#10
Stephano is so freaking disappointing, I am done with him, it hurts too much honestly.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 13 2018 16:43 GMT
#11
God damn Serral is so good - he always sets up for amazing engagements.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-13 16:49:19
June 13 2018 16:49 GMT
#12
I don't think that was particularly impressive play from Serral. I think HeRoMaRinE didn't split well enough versus the Banelings. Basically, standard Zerg is easier than Terran at WCS Circuit level, so Zerg dominates.
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-13 17:11:51
June 13 2018 17:11 GMT
#13
Well between these games and GSL, feels like we won't have good games/series today.
At least commentators are trying to hype the game a bit, props to them
jarodtou
Profile Joined July 2016
167 Posts
June 14 2018 10:04 GMT
#14
how is the seeding here? group A seems really imbalanced compared to other groups.. HM and Serral were TOP4 last EU WCS.. and had good results also in Austin. A bit sad for HM, still congrats to Namshar.

About Stephano, he is in a great form.. 7k mmr.. and got in a group with Serral and HM.. bad luck I guess.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 14 2018 11:21 GMT
#15
On June 14 2018 19:04 jarodtou wrote:
how is the seeding here? group A seems really imbalanced compared to other groups.. HM and Serral were TOP4 last EU WCS.. and had good results also in Austin. A bit sad for HM, still congrats to Namshar.

About Stephano, he is in a great form.. 7k mmr.. and got in a group with Serral and HM.. bad luck I guess.

Yeah, it was the same last qualifier with a random amount of players from each way of qualifying to the groups. For example Serral as an invited top-4 player was with 3 open qualifier players.

Would like to know what kind of a system they have instead of 1 invited + 1 GM + 2 qualified in each group.
why even
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
June 14 2018 12:37 GMT
#16
On June 14 2018 20:21 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 19:04 jarodtou wrote:
how is the seeding here? group A seems really imbalanced compared to other groups.. HM and Serral were TOP4 last EU WCS.. and had good results also in Austin. A bit sad for HM, still congrats to Namshar.

About Stephano, he is in a great form.. 7k mmr.. and got in a group with Serral and HM.. bad luck I guess.

Yeah, it was the same last qualifier with a random amount of players from each way of qualifying to the groups. For example Serral as an invited top-4 player was with 3 open qualifier players.

Would like to know what kind of a system they have instead of 1 invited + 1 GM + 2 qualified in each group.


they form 4 pools according to wcs points
here it was:
pool 1: serral (1), mana (7), showtime (4), nerchio (6)
pool 2: heromarine (10), snute (8), lambo (9), uthermal (13)
pool 3: stephano (19), ptitdrogo (24), bly (15), sortof* (34)
pool 4: namshar* (34), rail (98), soul (38), clem (47)

then for group A one player is picked randomly from each pool
then the same for groups b and c

seems like it was just pure bad luck for heromarine and stephano to get into that group

challenger rule book

*namshar and sortof were tied -> got randomly put into their pool (3 or 4)
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 13:03:54
June 14 2018 13:03 GMT
#17
On June 14 2018 21:37 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 20:21 D-light wrote:
On June 14 2018 19:04 jarodtou wrote:
how is the seeding here? group A seems really imbalanced compared to other groups.. HM and Serral were TOP4 last EU WCS.. and had good results also in Austin. A bit sad for HM, still congrats to Namshar.

About Stephano, he is in a great form.. 7k mmr.. and got in a group with Serral and HM.. bad luck I guess.

Yeah, it was the same last qualifier with a random amount of players from each way of qualifying to the groups. For example Serral as an invited top-4 player was with 3 open qualifier players.

Would like to know what kind of a system they have instead of 1 invited + 1 GM + 2 qualified in each group.


they form 4 pools according to wcs points
here it was:
pool 1: serral (1), mana (7), showtime (4), nerchio (6)
pool 2: heromarine (10), snute (8), lambo (9), uthermal (13)
pool 3: stephano (19), ptitdrogo (24), bly (15), sortof* (34)
pool 4: namshar* (34), rail (98), soul (38), clem (47)

then for group A one player is picked randomly from each pool
then the same for groups b and c

seems like it was just pure bad luck for heromarine and stephano to get into that group

challenger rule book

*namshar and sortof were tied -> got randomly put into their pool (3 or 4)

Thanks. A pretty logical way to go that I was also kinda assuming, but next time should probably just check myself.
why even
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1223 Posts
June 14 2018 14:10 GMT
#18
gogo MaNa!
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 14:16:55
June 14 2018 14:16 GMT
#19
today the seemingly worst group ...
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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
June 14 2018 15:16 GMT
#20
Drogo's macro has been really good so far, timing his harass well also.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
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