(Vote): Korea & Taiwan (Vote): United Kingdom & Mexico (Vote): Mexico & Korea (Vote): Taiwan & United Kindgom (Vote): United Kingdom & Korea (Vote): Taiwan & Mexico
Demu and the lads were destroying Korea in Nation Wars 3 when Risky, a vibey tekkey sort of fella who's an absolute ledge, pipes up and says "lets go for a cheeky nandos instead lads". The Archbishop of Banterbury Razerblader agrees and says "let's smash it". So UK forfeits and Korean once again gets lucky and advances.
This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
While none of them are currently in peak form, their resting skill is still much higher than almost everyone else in NW. Both Inno and soO are around 6.9K on KR.
I mean SoO is pretty much in his peak form, he just choke in the semi instead of the final this time. I can't see many people beating him in this tournament.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
I'm fairly certain they've played in more major team leagues than the majority of the playing field combined.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
I'm fairly certain they've played in more major team leagues than the majority of the playing field combined.
If Tod were there he would point out that Team Korea has won more money than all the other teams combined.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
I'm fairly certain they've played in more major team leagues than the majority of the playing field combined.
If Tod were there he would point out that Team Korea has won more money than all the other teams combined.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
I'm fairly certain they've played in more major team leagues than the majority of the playing field combined.
If Tod were there he would point out that Team Korea has won more money than all the other teams combined.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
I'm fairly certain they've played in more major team leagues than the majority of the playing field combined.
If Tod were there he would point out that Team Korea has won more money than all the other teams combined.
On April 01 2018 01:40 Bagration wrote: This Korea team is super tough. What they lack in peak current skill, they make up in ridiculous team league experience. MMA and Innovation probably have won more team leagues than everyone else in the tournament combined.
I'm fairly certain they've played in more major team leagues than the majority of the playing field combined.
If Tod were there he would point out that Team Korea has won more money than all the other teams combined.
Impressive that innovation managed to make a game out of this. I'd say that it's looking good for Mexico but then again I'm pretty sure Soo is too much for them.
On April 01 2018 05:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It's kinda bewildering how soO can still win big engagements after losing on all fronts for so long.
edit: I think it might be his snipes that were a bit lacking. But he was doing most everything else right.
That's really the story of SpeCial, he can't micro big army fights for shit. That said, soO made it easier for him this game by fighting off-creep unforced like 6 times.
if you saw these performances without knowing the history of these guys, you'd have thought that soo and inno were thrown at special to tire him out so that mma could have a better chance
It's 5AM in korea so I shouldn't blame the players for looking sloppy, but soO looked beyond sloppy there. I think Innovation would be a much better choice
On April 01 2018 05:24 Fango wrote: It's 5AM in korea so I shouldn't blame the players for looking sloppy, but soO looked beyond sloppy there. I think Innovation would be a much better choice
On April 01 2018 05:24 Fango wrote: It's 5AM in korea so I shouldn't blame the players for looking sloppy, but soO looked beyond sloppy there. I think Innovation would be a much better choice
It's the same time for Special.
Playing extremly late effects some players more than others, some are probably used to it when others aren't.
That being said Special looks sloppy here as well. His play hasn't been super impressive against either of the three imo.
On April 01 2018 05:37 Fango wrote: This is GG, 2 base to one
There was still a production difference in INno's favour. He probably could have done it if he hadn't lost those two medivacs. Now it's pretty over though.
Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
yeah but during the actual basetrade (and right before) special played better which is why he was in a winning position.
i think the reason both Korean terrans were better than their counterparts post-basetrade is because they have more experience with the battle micro of those situations. give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
On April 01 2018 05:46 Psychobabas wrote: Completely outplayed on all levels. Special so good.
Special is my favourate foreigner but that's just untrue. Inno played much better from their respective positions in both games. It's just the position was almost un-losable from Special's perspective (after the base trade/40 worker kills or whatever it was).
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
It's just as pointless as yours though, both start the game with equal economic positions :O Major played better and won
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
yes it does, since you took away about 75% of the comment (and the main point of the comment)
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
It's just as pointless as yours though, both start the game with equal economic positions :O Major played better and won
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
It's just as pointless as yours though, both start the game with equal economic positions :O Major played better and won
That's my point, making comments like "if Special had Inno's superior control he would have won easier". Well yh but he doesn't that's why he didn't win that easily.
Besides I still think Inno played better, even if it's an unpopular opinion. SpeCial got seriously lucky with the economic advantages that he gave despite his gameplay being worse. I said the same for the Kela vs TY match last year.
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
yes it does, since you took away about 75% of the comment (and the main point of the comment)
Because I was refering to that particular line not the rest of it.....
Completely outplayed on all levels. Special so good.
Disagree.
I was quite amazed actually with both Inno and Soo, how they made crazy good engagement with a lot less army. Special built up a great lead, which is nice and won him the games. Also nice multiprong harrass.
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
It's just as pointless as yours though, both start the game with equal economic positions :O Major played better and won
That's my point, making comments like "if Special had Inno's superior control he would have won easier". Well yh but he doesn't that's why he didn't win that easily.
Besides I still think Inno played better, even if it's an unpopular opinion. SpeCial got seriously lucky with the economic advantages that he gave despite his gameplay being worse. I said the same for the Kela vs TY match last year.
Yes and i think your "special got lucky" is just as pointless (that's what i meant the first time already). Major won 2 games fair and square, there isn't more to it than that. Unless you literally mean that in game rng decided the games there is no point to find "ifs" in this case (playing same server, etc). Did Innovation play his position strong after he failed and got behind? Yeah sure but that's irrelevant.
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
It's just as pointless as yours though, both start the game with equal economic positions :O Major played better and won
That's my point, making comments like "if Special had Inno's superior control he would have won easier". Well yh but he doesn't that's why he didn't win that easily.
Besides I still think Inno played better, even if it's an unpopular opinion. SpeCial got seriously lucky with the economic advantages that he gave despite his gameplay being worse. I said the same for the Kela vs TY match last year.
Yes and i think your "special got lucky" is just as pointless (that's what i meant the first time already). Major won 2 games fair and square, there isn't more to it than that. Unless you literally mean that in game rng decided the games there is no point to find "ifs" in this case (playing same server, etc). Did Innovation play his position strong after he failed and got behind? Yeah sure but that's irrelevant.
I'm not denying that SpeCial won or deserved to win. I'm saying he got lucky and won despite his play being on a lower level that his opponent for the majority of the gametime.
And SpeCial did get lucky here. I'm not saying it was a diceroll build or rng determined or anything like that. I just think the advantages he got in the game were not what would happen in the majority of games. Nor is it something that's reliant on pure skill.
On April 01 2018 05:44 Fango wrote: Innovation was playing so much better from a positional and micro perspective it's unreal. But it doesn't matter because Special's economy was too much.
Reminds me of that TY vs kelazur game from last year.
give innovation's battle micro tips to special and it woulda ended far earlier
That seems like a pointless comment. Put them in an equal economic position in either game and Inno would have destroyed him?
It's just as pointless as yours though, both start the game with equal economic positions :O Major played better and won
That's my point, making comments like "if Special had Inno's superior control he would have won easier". Well yh but he doesn't that's why he didn't win that easily.
Besides I still think Inno played better, even if it's an unpopular opinion. SpeCial got seriously lucky with the economic advantages that he gave despite his gameplay being worse. I said the same for the Kela vs TY match last year.
Yes and i think your "special got lucky" is just as pointless (that's what i meant the first time already). Major won 2 games fair and square, there isn't more to it than that. Unless you literally mean that in game rng decided the games there is no point to find "ifs" in this case (playing same server, etc). Did Innovation play his position strong after he failed and got behind? Yeah sure but that's irrelevant.
I'm not denying that SpeCial won or deserved to win. I'm saying he got lucky and won despite his play being on a lower level that his opponent for the majority of the gametime.
And SpeCial did get lucky here. I'm not saying it was a diceroll build or rng determined or anything like that. I just think the advantages he got in the game were not what would happen in the majority of games. Nor is it something that's reliant on pure skill.
This goes too deep into the more philosophical area of what people even consider skill, luck, etc in a game with imperfect information, so i won't bother right now to start that debate on principles. But can you tell me what you think was so lucky about major's wins here? I guess for the second game you consider it pure luck how they ended up after the basetrade?
How come we can't let Special and Mexico just have this win? Why does it always need to be luck when a Korean loses to a non-Korean? It's so hard to stomach these posts.
On April 01 2018 08:40 kaykoose wrote: How come we can't let Special and Mexico just have this win? Why does it always need to be luck when a Korean loses to a non-Korean? It's so hard to stomach these posts.
On April 01 2018 08:40 kaykoose wrote: How come we can't let Special and Mexico just have this win? Why does it always need to be luck when a Korean loses to a non-Korean? It's so hard to stomach these posts.
Then we'd lose 50% of posts on teamliquid, kappa
Nah, there's always balance whine.
I just watched these games. Game 6 especially was great! Too bad we have yet another crab apple of a discussion following it!
On April 01 2018 08:40 kaykoose wrote: How come we can't let Special and Mexico just have this win? Why does it always need to be luck when a Korean loses to a non-Korean? It's so hard to stomach these posts.
Then we'd lose 50% of posts on teamliquid, kappa
Nah, there's always balance whine.
I just watched these games. Game 6 especially was great! Too bad we have yet another crab apple of a discussion following it!
= D
This were AWESEOME games, and major won defeated 4 top koreans in a row. That's it
All on the same time zone and server, things may be different tomorrow, but Special played great and won four games...
On April 01 2018 16:46 opisska wrote: If this was Innovation alone without a revive vs. all the other players, I would still favor Innovation.
edit: and I would have been wrong, because this thing already happened and Mexico won wtf?!
I missed the first two games that Korea won, but luckily I came back from family duties just when Special's first match had started. Boy am I glad I did, what incredibly exiting games! Of course, the result alone makes Special a SC2 living legend right there. People will talk about this for a long time.
Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Scarlett didn't all-kill, Semper beat Zest the slumpest before she triple killed the rest.
People are overeacting I think, it was awesome the first time when MarineLord pulled it but now we can see that in tha format koreans aren't so dominant (even if in two full participations they got a 1st and 2d place, not bad uh)
What was really mesmerising was Stephano's performance at the 2012 GSL world championship. Offline 4 wins in a row, Eyes fixed on screen. good ol' time.
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Scarlett didn't all-kill, Semper beat Zest the slumpest before she triple killed the rest.
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Except of course, when Serral had brought Finland to a 3-0 lead and Innovation turned the table with an all-kill.
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Except of course, when Serral had brought Finland to a 3-0 lead and Innovation turned the table with an all-kill.
Or when he all killed Gemernay in semis', or when he won the decisive points against Poland in Finals by beating Nerchio and Elazer, etc...
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Except of course, when Serral had brought Finland to a 3-0 lead and Innovation turned the table with an all-kill.
Or when he all killed Gemernay in semis', or when he won the decisive points against Poland in Finals by beating Nerchio and Elazer, etc...
ye but he also lost to scarlett and 2 foreign terrans lmao
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Except of course, when Serral had brought Finland to a 3-0 lead and Innovation turned the table with an all-kill.
Or when he all killed Gemernay in semis', or when he won the decisive points against Poland in Finals by beating Nerchio and Elazer, etc...
ye but he also lost to scarlett and 2 foreign terrans lmao
Good sense of sportsmanship, Innovation has. All for the crowd!
On April 01 2018 18:07 BaneRiders wrote: What would be very nice to have though, is a marathon table summing up all the results of all NWs. On team level as well as individual level.
You could add that to the main NationWars article on Liquipedia, I'll allow it
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Except of course, when Serral had brought Finland to a 3-0 lead and Innovation turned the table with an all-kill.
Or when he all killed Gemernay in semis', or when he won the decisive points against Poland in Finals by beating Nerchio and Elazer, etc...
ye but he also lost to scarlett and 2 foreign terrans lmao
Good sense of sportsmanship, Innovation has. All for the crowd!
This. Its better for the tournament and SC2 as a whole when Inno isnt killing everyone dead.
Major played really well, but you just have to wonder how seriously koreans take this event. I didnt expect soO to lose.
On April 01 2018 17:11 Elentos wrote: Korea was all-killed by MarineLorD in NW3, by Scarlett in NW4 and now by SpeCial in NW5. The thing the Korean teams had in common? INnoVation. He was the weakest link all along.
Except of course, when Serral had brought Finland to a 3-0 lead and Innovation turned the table with an all-kill.
Or when he all killed Gemernay in semis', or when he won the decisive points against Poland in Finals by beating Nerchio and Elazer, etc...
ye but he also lost to scarlett and 2 foreign terrans lmao
Good sense of sportsmanship, Innovation has. All for the crowd!
This. Its better for the tournament and SC2 as a whole when Inno isnt killing everyone dead.
Major played really well, but you just have to wonder how seriously koreans take this event. I didnt expect soO to lose.
Well it was a match for the first place in the group, so maybe it got him confused and engage finals mode.
You can't really blame team Korea, the best players either didn't sign up or didn't get enough votes and now they're stuck with a team that's gonna have competitive matches against some of the other nations (mainly the ones with good Terrans).
I don't understand where this "Korea has a weak lineup this year" narrative comes from. Granted, MMA has just recently started playing full-time again and is not in top form, but INnoVation and soO are easily top 5 in their respective races.
On April 01 2018 18:42 Crocolisk Dundee wrote: I don't understand where this "Korea has a weak lineup this year" narrative comes from. Granted, MMA has just recently started playing full-time again and is not in top form, but INnoVation and soO are easily top 5 in their respective races.
Innovation might be top 5 terran but his shape is quite terrible so far with lackluster results and games. He bombed out of the easiest ro16 group, got destroyed at Katowice... MMA isn't back yet so they're left with just soO whose results contain some disappointment (Katowice)
This is clearly a very weak line up compared to a Stats or Classic (or even Zest ffs, just make him not play a Z) soO/Maru one.
On April 01 2018 18:42 Crocolisk Dundee wrote: I don't understand where this "Korea has a weak lineup this year" narrative comes from. Granted, MMA has just recently started playing full-time again and is not in top form, but INnoVation and soO are easily top 5 in their respective races.
Innovation might be top 5 terran but his shape is quite terrible so far with lackluster results and games. He bombed out of the easiest ro16 group, got destroyed at Katowice... MMA isn't back yet so they're left with just soO whose results contain some disappointment (Katowice)
This is clearly a very weak line up compared to a Stats or Classic (or even Zest ffs, just make him not play a Z) soO/Maru one.
And soO's ZvT is by far his weakest match-up so it's quite possible for players like SpeCial and uThermal to take him down. Even just a strong Protoss instead of MMA (while keeping INno and soO) would have made this line-up way more powerful. Although MMA is the entertainment so...
On April 01 2018 18:07 BaneRiders wrote: What would be very nice to have though, is a marathon table summing up all the results of all NWs. On team level as well as individual level.
You could add that to the main NationWars article on Liquipedia, I'll allow it
No time unfortunately. I hope someone steps up for this glorious task!
On April 01 2018 18:07 BaneRiders wrote: What would be very nice to have though, is a marathon table summing up all the results of all NWs. On team level as well as individual level.
You could add that to the main NationWars article on Liquipedia, I'll allow it
No time unfortunately. I hope someone steps up for this glorious task!
I'm working on it but it's gonna take a few hours.
On April 01 2018 18:42 Crocolisk Dundee wrote: I don't understand where this "Korea has a weak lineup this year" narrative comes from. Granted, MMA has just recently started playing full-time again and is not in top form, but INnoVation and soO are easily top 5 in their respective races.
Innovation might be top 5 terran but his shape is quite terrible so far with lackluster results and games. He bombed out of the easiest ro16 group, got destroyed at Katowice... MMA isn't back yet so they're left with just soO whose results contain some disappointment (Katowice)
This is clearly a very weak line up compared to a Stats or Classic (or even Zest ffs, just make him not play a Z) soO/Maru one.
Both games against Special were superb though. Even though he lost he was in a terrible place on Abiogenesis as well as Acid Plant. Abiogenesis he won and threw after a lot of crazy stuff happening. Acid plant his initial defence was very weak and he tried to battle his way back into it which isn't easy against a Terran like Special. I don't think he looked weak there even though he lost.
On April 01 2018 18:07 BaneRiders wrote: What would be very nice to have though, is a marathon table summing up all the results of all NWs. On team level as well as individual level.
You could add that to the main NationWars article on Liquipedia, I'll allow it
No time unfortunately. I hope someone steps up for this glorious task!
Every now and then I come back to this community for one tournament or another, and I always end up regretting it. All the sad sacks with their excuse mongering every time a Korean loses to a foreigner are pathetic. It's 5am! They're not taking it seriously! Inno and soO aren't really that good! The foreigner just got lucky! Are you kidding me? Maybe start some nonsense about jet lag or something, you left that one out.
Here's a fact: this Mexico vs Korea match was 10 times more entertaining and intense than the GSL semi's and finals combined.
On April 02 2018 00:02 Thax wrote: Here's a fact: this Mexico vs Korea match was 10 times more entertaining and intense than the GSL semi's and finals combined.
On April 02 2018 00:02 Thax wrote: Every now and then I come back to this community for one tournament or another, and I always end up regretting it. All the sad sacks with their excuse mongering every time a Korean loses to a foreigner are pathetic. It's 5am! They're not taking it seriously! Inno and soO aren't really that good! The foreigner just got lucky! Are you kidding me? Maybe start some nonsense about jet lag or something, you left that one out.
Here's a fact: this Mexico vs Korea match was 10 times more entertaining and intense than the GSL semi's and finals combined.
On April 01 2018 18:07 BaneRiders wrote: What would be very nice to have though, is a marathon table summing up all the results of all NWs. On team level as well as individual level.
You could add that to the main NationWars article on Liquipedia, I'll allow it
No time unfortunately. I hope someone steps up for this glorious task!
Btw this is your reminder that Chile got disqualified because they couldn't play live yet many other teams have played from replays. And we don't have an explanation from O'Gaming
On April 02 2018 03:17 Durnuu wrote: Btw this is your reminder that Chile got disqualified because they couldn't play live yet many other teams have played from replays. And we don't have an explanation from O'Gaming
User was warned for this post.
Yeah, let's tell people to shut up in red text, that's the right approach to a main actor in the scene acting shady!
On April 02 2018 03:17 Durnuu wrote: Btw this is your reminder that Chile got disqualified because they couldn't play live yet many other teams have played from replays. And we don't have an explanation from O'Gaming
User was warned for this post.
Yeah, let's tell people to shut up in red text, that's the right approach to a main actor in the scene acting shady!
I also would like an official explanation about Chile, if we are getting warned for this, then please warn me also. Transparency should be the basic of each championship.. especially when stuff like this happens
On April 02 2018 03:17 Durnuu wrote: Btw this is your reminder that Chile got disqualified because they couldn't play live yet many other teams have played from replays. And we don't have an explanation from O'Gaming
User was warned for this post.
I really appreciate you tenaciousness. They should realize that silence is the cowards way. Why not just give small PR statement and be done with it?
On April 02 2018 03:17 Durnuu wrote: Btw this is your reminder that Chile got disqualified because they couldn't play live yet many other teams have played from replays. And we don't have an explanation from O'Gaming
User was warned for this post.
This warning is a bigger joke than O'gaming's silence. But I guess it is April Fools today.
On April 02 2018 04:51 chipmonklord17 wrote: as a zerg player I often offrace protoss just to beat terrans with this build. I recommend everyone tries it
I'm pretty sure this puts you on the list of several government agencies for attempted acts of terrorism.
On April 02 2018 04:51 chipmonklord17 wrote: as a zerg player I often offrace protoss just to beat terrans with this build. I recommend everyone tries it
I'm pretty sure this puts you on the list of several government agencies for attempted acts of terrorism.
releasing Zerg frustration and the 80% win rate is worth it every time
Nice should do the literal same build just to fuck with Inno
On April 02 2018 05:16 pvsnp wrote: Yeah edgy guys on TL use it, but I mean actually hearing a caster call him Bogus?
Not in years and years.
Most casters probably don't remember that time. Many of our casters aren't great at remembering those details. Wolf would tell you every nickname of every player ever but he doesn't cast no more
On April 02 2018 05:28 pvsnp wrote: Inno is notoriously bad at playing at weird times/places though. Like Blizzcon.
Wasn't it MMA that said "International Inno is a lower tier than Korean Inno"
Well it's not a weird space and I think 5:30 isn't that unusual of a time for some of these guys to be playing.
5:30 AM isn't an unusual time? I know some of these guys run on weird hours but that's straight up nocturnal if 5:30 is normal to be playing seriously. I imagine Inno is better rested today, but both soO and Inno were streaming for hours before they played yesterday–Hajin was saying how the Koreans told her they were tired.
Something that threw me for a loop last year at Blizzcon was when Gumiho said offline Inno is another level compared to online Inno, but then Inno always slumps at Blizzcon, so.....
On April 02 2018 05:28 pvsnp wrote: Inno is notoriously bad at playing at weird times/places though. Like Blizzcon.
Wasn't it MMA that said "International Inno is a lower tier than Korean Inno" when they were both on Acer
He has more than a week to acclimatize for Blizzcon though. There's a limit to jetlag.
I don't think it's a jetlag thing or a rest thing in Inno's case, since obviously all the Koreans had to make the same flight. More of a psychological weakness for Inno specifically.
On April 02 2018 05:28 pvsnp wrote: Inno is notoriously bad at playing at weird times/places though. Like Blizzcon.
Wasn't it MMA that said "International Inno is a lower tier than Korean Inno"
Well it's not a weird space and I think 5:30 isn't that unusual of a time for some of these guys to be playing.
You think that purely because they're full time gamers? I'd imagine if they follow any kind of proper sleep scedule that 5:30AM is very unusual. From what I can tell watching pro streams most of them seem to sleep no later than 2-3.
On April 02 2018 05:39 Ej_ wrote: The non-edgy TL users in full force trying to justify INnoVation blowing at Starcraft :o
Everyone knows there's no variance whatsoever in sports, and that any overperforming/underperforming/winning streak/losing streak means that there's a systemic problem.
On April 02 2018 05:39 Ej_ wrote: The non-edgy TL users in full force trying to justify INnoVation blowing at Starcraft :o
Inno is a better player so he makes to get full sleep 11-7 every night. Foreigners however are inferior and don't follow any structured sleep scedule. So they're at an unfair advantage by playing so late. Only reason Inno lose here
On April 02 2018 05:28 pvsnp wrote: Inno is notoriously bad at playing at weird times/places though. Like Blizzcon.
Wasn't it MMA that said "International Inno is a lower tier than Korean Inno"
Well it's not a weird space and I think 5:30 isn't that unusual of a time for some of these guys to be playing.
You think that purely because they're full time gamers? I'd imagine if they follow any kind of proper sleep scedule that 5:30AM is very unusual. From what I can tell watching pro streams most of them seem to sleep no later than 2-3.
I've seen guys like PartinG, Creator and ByuN stream at times like these. And believe it or not, some people go to sleep early and wake up early as well.
On April 02 2018 05:28 pvsnp wrote: Inno is notoriously bad at playing at weird times/places though. Like Blizzcon.
Wasn't it MMA that said "International Inno is a lower tier than Korean Inno"
Well it's not a weird space and I think 5:30 isn't that unusual of a time for some of these guys to be playing.
You think that purely because they're full time gamers? I'd imagine if they follow any kind of proper sleep scedule that 5:30AM is very unusual. From what I can tell watching pro streams most of them seem to sleep no later than 2-3.
I've seen guys like PartinG, Creator and ByuN stream at times like these. And believe it or not, some people go to sleep early and wake up early as well.
And whenever they do stream late they barely ever seem to find high level games. I rarely see any of the current top pros playing so late.
Also, for PartinG and ByuN, streaming is of more importance than for Inno or soO, who are probably more committed to solid tournament practice.
On April 02 2018 05:28 pvsnp wrote: Inno is notoriously bad at playing at weird times/places though. Like Blizzcon.
Wasn't it MMA that said "International Inno is a lower tier than Korean Inno"
Well it's not a weird space and I think 5:30 isn't that unusual of a time for some of these guys to be playing.
You think that purely because they're full time gamers? I'd imagine if they follow any kind of proper sleep scedule that 5:30AM is very unusual. From what I can tell watching pro streams most of them seem to sleep no later than 2-3.
I've seen guys like PartinG, Creator and ByuN stream at times like these. And believe it or not, some people go to sleep early and wake up early as well.
And whenever they do stream late they barely ever seem to find high level games. I rarely see any of the current top pros playing so late.
Also, for PartinG and ByuN, streaming is of more importance than for Inno or soO, who are probably more committed to solid tournament practice.
Yeah, but ByuN's better than INno right now, so maybe INno should learn something from him .
On April 02 2018 05:56 Fango wrote: Mech has always been questionable against protoss but maybe on this map?
It's the best it's ever been in SC2 atm for sure, shouldn't overuse it but can definitely get a win here and there. Although Gumi is really the only one who does it a lot.
On April 02 2018 05:56 Fango wrote: Mech has always been questionable against protoss but maybe on this map?
It's the best it's ever been in SC2 atm for sure, shouldn't overuse it but can definitely get a win here and there. Although Gumi is really the only one who does it a lot.
Going mech is a mistake, but a mistake that requires your opponent to know how to react.
And who knows--mass raven can prop up a lot of mistakes.
On April 02 2018 06:18 pvsnp wrote: They might have to do some rescheduling for Korea because the Super Tournament overlaps with the quarterfinals
Don't worry. Maru and Rogue will take care of that for us.
I wouldn't be surprised if Maru and Rogue have both slumped hard since they won big trophies. Maybe not, but it's definitely a possibility.
welle they may be slumping, but we now for sure that soO's versus Terran is in a big slump, and INno seems out of shape + he never won a tournament before June...
On April 02 2018 06:47 aringadingding wrote: Toss is OP, 7 wins after 57 games so far! NERF!!!
Oh dear god, not a sample size in double digits drawn from the least-balanced SC2 tournament where players selected by national popularity play cross-server games at 4:00 AM! Anything but that!
On April 02 2018 06:47 aringadingding wrote: Toss is OP, 7 wins after 57 games so far! NERF!!!
Oh dear god, not a sample size in double digits drawn from the least-balanced SC2 tournament where players selected by national popularity play cross-server games at 4:00 AM! Anything but that!
DAVID KIM PLZ
we all know the OP race has always been terran why else is it whenever a terran player loses the race that beat terran is considered OP !!!
On April 02 2018 06:47 aringadingding wrote: Toss is OP, 7 wins after 57 games so far! NERF!!!
Oh dear god, not a sample size in double digits drawn from the least-balanced SC2 tournament where players selected by national popularity play cross-server games at 4:00 AM! Anything but that!
DAVID KIM PLZ
we all know the OP race has always been terran why else is it whenever a terran player loses the race that beat terran is considered OP !!!
Sorry, I don't know what you're trying to say here.
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