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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 24 2018 06:18 GMT
#641
On January 24 2018 15:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 15:15 VengefulTree wrote:
In the next patch with the longer interfering matrix Maru would have won no? He won in my heart anyway


Next patch Maru hopefully doesn't feel the need to 2 base all-in every game.


Or without the boys
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 24 2018 06:18 GMT
#642
Dear, Elazer and Gumiho: The best of NA
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 06:19:34
January 24 2018 06:19 GMT
#643
Mizenhauer was right, Maru is a martyr

On January 24 2018 15:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Dear, Elazer and Gumiho: The best of NA


0/3 not bad, amirite?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 24 2018 06:20 GMT
#644
Dear did not deserve to qualify here at all :/
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 24 2018 06:21 GMT
#645
Dear/Maru looks like Zest/TRUE last year
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
January 24 2018 06:21 GMT
#646
Maru deserved it so much more.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 24 2018 06:24 GMT
#647
Lets go 2013 Dear.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
January 24 2018 06:27 GMT
#648
It's pretty funny while both Maru and Dear have won two premier championships, twitch chat sounds like Maru is a god and Dear is some no-name scrub.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 24 2018 06:29 GMT
#649
On January 24 2018 15:27 yht9657 wrote:
It's pretty funny while both Maru and Dear have won two premier championships, twitch chat sounds like Maru is a god and Dear is some no-name scrub.


That's because Dear won when his race was favoured not the other way around. Also Maru clearly deserved to win here
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
January 24 2018 06:30 GMT
#650
On January 24 2018 15:20 Fango wrote:
Dear did not deserve to qualify here at all :/


I hate him as much as everyone else for taking Maru's spot, and I didn't see many games, but I feel like beating Zest-TY-Stats-Maru is a respectable run
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 06:32:10
January 24 2018 06:31 GMT
#651
On January 24 2018 15:29 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 15:27 yht9657 wrote:
It's pretty funny while both Maru and Dear have won two premier championships, twitch chat sounds like Maru is a god and Dear is some no-name scrub.


That's because Dear won when his race was favoured not the other way around. Also Maru clearly deserved to win here


Even if terran was overwhelmingly favoured in the match-up people would cheer for Maru over Dear.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 06:52:00
January 24 2018 06:33 GMT
#652
Maru is way more popular than Dear, I think that's a well-established fact by this point. Not a surprise that people are upset he lost and Dear won. The fact that Protoss is favored in PvT just adds fuel to that fire.

Maru is one of the most popular players in the scene, isn't he? Who has a bigger fanbase? Byun, I guess. Maybe Zest? Anyone else?

Dear on the other hand, has kind of lurked about the edges of greatness ever since his one magnificent peak, and has the (small) fanbase to match.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 24 2018 06:35 GMT
#653
On January 24 2018 15:30 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 15:20 Fango wrote:
Dear did not deserve to qualify here at all :/


I hate him as much as everyone else for taking Maru's spot, and I didn't see many games, but I feel like beating Zest-TY-Stats-Maru is a respectable run


It's more that Maru went 4-3 against him, but Dear is the one to go to Katowice. Plus Maru had to play 12 games with no break at the end when Dear had an hour of downtime. And terran is a week away from being buffed as well.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 06:36:36
January 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#654
On January 24 2018 15:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 15:29 Fango wrote:
On January 24 2018 15:27 yht9657 wrote:
It's pretty funny while both Maru and Dear have won two premier championships, twitch chat sounds like Maru is a god and Dear is some no-name scrub.


That's because Dear won when his race was favoured not the other way around. Also Maru clearly deserved to win here


Even if terran was overwhelmingly favoured in the match-up people would cheer for Maru over Dear.


I'm talking historically. People support Maru because he rose to fame by winning when his race was underpowered. Dear's peak was still in a period of protoss dominance, so he never built the same fanbase
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#655
On January 24 2018 15:35 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 15:30 VengefulTree wrote:
On January 24 2018 15:20 Fango wrote:
Dear did not deserve to qualify here at all :/


I hate him as much as everyone else for taking Maru's spot, and I didn't see many games, but I feel like beating Zest-TY-Stats-Maru is a respectable run


It's more that Maru went 4-3 against him, but Dear is the one to go to Katowice. Plus Maru had to play 12 games with no break at the end when Dear had an hour of downtime. And terran is a week away from being buffed as well.


Bring back MLG Extended Series.
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
224 Posts
January 24 2018 06:40 GMT
#656
On January 24 2018 15:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
:/ Too predictable from Maru.

Dear didn't do anything unpredictable either. Do enlighten me if otherwise.
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Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
January 24 2018 06:50 GMT
#657
How do you not deserve to win, when you actually won? If we took away the names of the players, making them just two barcode players, would the terran deserve to win, even though he lost?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 06:59:02
January 24 2018 06:55 GMT
#658
On January 24 2018 15:50 Zephyp wrote:
How do you not deserve to win, when you actually won? If we took away the names of the players, making them just two barcode players, would the terran deserve to win, even though he lost?


Like I said above, the terran was the better player here. He went 4-3 against the protoss. And this is on a patch that blizzard have already deemed imbalanced in protoss favour. Plus the terran had to play 12 games in a row without a break, protoss had an hour between the last series
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
January 24 2018 08:02 GMT
#659
Guys, just leave it, fck it. Just read Major's twitter. It's happened again.
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 24 2018 08:11 GMT
#660
On January 24 2018 15:55 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 15:50 Zephyp wrote:
How do you not deserve to win, when you actually won? If we took away the names of the players, making them just two barcode players, would the terran deserve to win, even though he lost?


Like I said above, the terran was the better player here. He went 4-3 against the protoss. And this is on a patch that blizzard have already deemed imbalanced in protoss favour. Plus the terran had to play 12 games in a row without a break, protoss had an hour between the last series

In GSL, people have often lost 0-2 and then won 2-1 versus the same player in the loser's final. The fact that Maru won more games is not particularly relevant.

Also, the nerfs that Protoss is getting along with the buffs Terran is getting wouldn't really have made much of a difference given that the games Dear won went past the early game, and stalkers get worse as time goes on. Also, the disruption matrix lasting a couple seconds longer would not have made Maru win.

In the past couple of weeks, Protoss really only had a 52/53% winrate over Terran. It's been the last couple of days that the winrate has spiked to 59%, though it's only been 5 days. I do expect the winrate to even out somewhat over the next week or so.
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