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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-22 19:43:13
January 22 2018 19:38 GMT
#341
On January 23 2018 04:34 pvsnp wrote:
Higher tier > lower tier is semi-reductive argument since there isn't even a universally accepted definition of what exactly constitutes a Tier


Let's redefine it then if tier confuses you... higher tech level units should defeat lower tech units in general.Otherwise they'd have a no role in the game.

Because they have a role in the game, it is obvious they do. Now of course in a 1vs1, a Zealot beats a High Templar or an Immortal beats an Ultralisk or Thor, but that situation isn't realistic for a competitive 1vs1 game of SC2. Nor is a situation of just building an army of tier 3 units...

I understand Zergs might be frustrated, but Protoss is winning 42% of their games at a high level versus Zerg right now... so... http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 22 2018 19:39 GMT
#342
Just post the protoss gif from transformers animated series and cut this pointless discussion already.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
January 22 2018 19:42 GMT
#343
sick game
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 22 2018 19:42 GMT
#344
uthermal needs ghosts and he doesn't have any
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
January 22 2018 19:44 GMT
#345
On January 23 2018 04:42 pvsnp wrote:
uthermal needs ghosts and he doesn't have any

he needs liberators. Ghosts suck unless they are protected by a huge liberator/tank siege line.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-22 19:50:04
January 22 2018 19:47 GMT
#346
On January 23 2018 04:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2018 04:42 pvsnp wrote:
uthermal needs ghosts and he doesn't have any

he needs liberators. Ghosts suck unless they are protected by a huge liberator/tank siege line.

Nah, you just need gosu ghost micro. Inno and Byun have been going ghost before libs and it works quite well against Ultras. Bio/Tank/Ghost works in the lategame, you add Liberators and Vikings as the game goes super late and Zerg adds BL and Infestors.

Also a ghostball takes awhile to build up, while libs can be reactored out so starting ghosts before libs helps that way.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
January 22 2018 19:50 GMT
#347
On January 23 2018 04:47 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2018 04:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 23 2018 04:42 pvsnp wrote:
uthermal needs ghosts and he doesn't have any

he needs liberators. Ghosts suck unless they are protected by a huge liberator/tank siege line.

Nah, you just need gosu ghost micro. Inno and Byun have been going ghost right after tank and it works quite well against Ultras. Bio/Tank/Ghost works in the lategame, you add Liberators and Vikings as the game goes super late and Zerg adds BL and Infestors.

Also ghostball takes awhile to build up, while libs can be reactored out so starting ghosts before libs helps that way.

I have never seen Inno getting early ghosts early and I watch his stream a lot and of course all his tournament matches.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-22 19:52:31
January 22 2018 19:51 GMT
#348
On January 23 2018 04:50 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2018 04:47 pvsnp wrote:
On January 23 2018 04:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 23 2018 04:42 pvsnp wrote:
uthermal needs ghosts and he doesn't have any

he needs liberators. Ghosts suck unless they are protected by a huge liberator/tank siege line.

Nah, you just need gosu ghost micro. Inno and Byun have been going ghost right after tank and it works quite well against Ultras. Bio/Tank/Ghost works in the lategame, you add Liberators and Vikings as the game goes super late and Zerg adds BL and Infestors.

Also ghostball takes awhile to build up, while libs can be reactored out so starting ghosts before libs helps that way.

I have never seen Inno getting early ghosts early and I watch his stream a lot and of course all his tournament matches.

There was one day about a week ago where I watched him do it on stream like five times in a row. Also, if you watch Inno vs Leenock game 2 in GSL, he starts ghost production near the end (though he never needs it).

"Early" is a bit of a misnomer since it's not like the 3-ghost push or anything, just earlier than Terrans got them pre-4.0
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-22 19:56:51
January 22 2018 19:56 GMT
#349
uthermal has no chill, proxy 4rax to end it
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 22 2018 19:59 GMT
#350
not sure if brains, balls or desperation :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-22 20:00:43
January 22 2018 20:00 GMT
#351
On January 23 2018 04:59 Musicus wrote:
not sure if brains, balls or desperation :D

All three, plus a hefty dose of luck = uthermal going to Katowice
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 22 2018 20:57 GMT
#352
How did Thermy beat Serral?
WriterMaru
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-22 21:07:39
January 22 2018 21:05 GMT
#353
On January 23 2018 05:57 Poopi wrote:
How did Thermy beat Serral?

Cheese (in one way or another).
why even
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
January 22 2018 21:08 GMT
#354
YES!!!!! finally showtime !!!!
I like Dark
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 22 2018 21:17 GMT
#355
Nerchio not letting up after being stopped by Showtime. Beating Elazer and Serral back to back!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 22 2018 21:19 GMT
#356
EU Zergs really not living up to expectations by letting a Protoss and a Terran qualify.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 22 2018 21:19 GMT
#357
On January 23 2018 06:17 Musicus wrote:
Nerchio not letting up after being stopped by Showtime. Beating Elazer and Serral back to back!

was there even a single stream of that
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
January 22 2018 21:24 GMT
#358
On January 23 2018 06:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
EU Zergs really not living up to expectations by letting a Protoss and a Terran qualify.

Yup, Serral knows how he should feel...

why even
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12447 Posts
January 22 2018 21:39 GMT
#359
Was True vs Harstem only on ogaming?

Pretty epic throws if you're into that sort of thing
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 22 2018 21:42 GMT
#360
On January 23 2018 06:39 Nebuchad wrote:
Was True vs Harstem only on ogaming?

Pretty epic throws if you're into that sort of thing


was just on main stream
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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