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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10108 Posts
November 04 2017 23:04 GMT
#1181
i want some BL/infestor
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 04 2017 23:05 GMT
#1182
On November 05 2017 07:59 Elentos wrote:
You know, if TY didn't win over 300k this year and 2 big tournaments, I'm pretty sure soO would cry for him. 5 reverse sweeps in the bracket stages of Premiers.


Still very heartbreaking. What a shitty record to have.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 04 2017 23:05 GMT
#1183
I am the Rogue hipster TB is talking about, I was hyping him up since 2014
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 04 2017 23:05 GMT
#1184
MMA to come back and become Starcraft Usain Bolt
Neosteel Enthusiast
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
November 04 2017 23:05 GMT
#1185
Reminder that Rogue has only ever won ZvP finals
bisu
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 04 2017 23:06 GMT
#1186
Let's key in on soO because we need to spend 3/4th of every cast talking about how great his story is!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 04 2017 23:06 GMT
#1187
On November 05 2017 08:03 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 08:02 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:57 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:53 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:46 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:44 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:37 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:33 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).

Nope, he doesn't know how to play the game. He never practiced playing mech, he didn't play vs one of the best players in the world. He was actually winging it entire time, too. Maybe he shoul'dve actually kept all of his army defending the satelatie bases so he could've never left his half of the map and let Zerg get to a 5k/5k bank on 80 drones and win the game with ease? We will never know!

his mech play is uninspired and he lost games that he would've won had he went bio.

I'm eager to hear where you got that intel from, especially since the only real bio game they played was the Mech Depot one where TY got massacred.

From my own thoughts obviously ;;

Can you imagine sending devs to kill a cc?

Well a player should put thought behind making units so this feels like Blizzard said, oh no, corruptors will be useless if a player makes too many, so let's give them an ability to hit ground. Feels really silly tbh especially the DPS and you can't repair rofl

Vikings can land and attack ground units.
Phoenix can lift units and attack them. (and take them out of the fight)
Corruptors needed something other than morphing into broodlords which is super expensive.

That's not a great train tbh. Just because another race can do something with an air unit doesn't mean that corruptors should.

Also, Phoenix are sitting ducks when they lift and Vikings have bad DPS and are somewhat weak when they transform from what I recall.

Corruptors are also sitting ducks when they attack a building. All they can do is pick off a single building if there is absolutely no defense.

You missed my main point. This attack that blizz added to corrupters feels out of place overall. Anyways I don't really care enough to discuss this further lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 23:07:16
November 04 2017 23:06 GMT
#1188
On November 05 2017 08:05 ramon wrote:
Reminder that Rogue has only ever won ZvP finals


But he won his match vs Dark in an SPL finals
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
November 04 2017 23:07 GMT
#1189
lately ZvZ has been soO's worst match up, amazing
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 04 2017 23:07 GMT
#1190
On November 05 2017 08:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I am the Rogue hipster TB is talking about, I was hyping him up since 2014

You were hyping him in 2016? Outside of beating Zest in proleague and going 7-0 against Zerg in proleague matches, 2016 was a super sad year for the Sexy Boy.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 04 2017 23:08 GMT
#1191
    (2560) Rogue  0-0  soO (2528)      
---------------------------------------
6.98% 4-0 0-4 5.58%
13.57% 4-1 1-4 11.47%
16.49% 4-2 2-4 14.74%
16.03% 4-3 3-4 15.15%
---------------------------------------
53.07% 46.93%

Median outcome: Rogue 4-3 soO

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
November 04 2017 23:08 GMT
#1192
On November 05 2017 08:07 Penev wrote:
lately ZvZ has been soO's worst match up, amazing

and Rogues best..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 23:08:52
November 04 2017 23:08 GMT
#1193
damnit guitars sniped me
Neosteel Enthusiast
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 04 2017 23:08 GMT
#1194
On November 05 2017 08:07 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 08:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I am the Rogue hipster TB is talking about, I was hyping him up since 2014

You were hyping him in 2016? Outside of beating Zest in proleague and going 7-0 against Zerg in proleague matches, 2016 was a super sad year for the Sexy Boy.

Oh ya his 2016 was crappy, wasn't super hyped up at that point but still
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 04 2017 23:08 GMT
#1195
On November 05 2017 08:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
    (2560) Rogue  0-0  soO (2528)      
---------------------------------------
6.98% 4-0 0-4 5.58%
13.57% 4-1 1-4 11.47%
16.49% 4-2 2-4 14.74%
16.03% 4-3 3-4 15.15%
---------------------------------------
53.07% 46.93%

Median outcome: Rogue 4-3 soO

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


basicly it's 50/50
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 04 2017 23:09 GMT
#1196
On November 05 2017 08:08 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 08:07 Penev wrote:
lately ZvZ has been soO's worst match up, amazing

and Rogues best..

soO is gonna win this!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
November 04 2017 23:09 GMT
#1197
On November 05 2017 08:03 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 08:02 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:57 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:53 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:46 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:44 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:37 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:33 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).

Nope, he doesn't know how to play the game. He never practiced playing mech, he didn't play vs one of the best players in the world. He was actually winging it entire time, too. Maybe he shoul'dve actually kept all of his army defending the satelatie bases so he could've never left his half of the map and let Zerg get to a 5k/5k bank on 80 drones and win the game with ease? We will never know!

his mech play is uninspired and he lost games that he would've won had he went bio.

I'm eager to hear where you got that intel from, especially since the only real bio game they played was the Mech Depot one where TY got massacred.

From my own thoughts obviously ;;

Can you imagine sending devs to kill a cc?

Well a player should put thought behind making units so this feels like Blizzard said, oh no, corruptors will be useless if a player makes too many, so let's give them an ability to hit ground. Feels really silly tbh especially the DPS and you can't repair rofl

Vikings can land and attack ground units.
Phoenix can lift units and attack them. (and take them out of the fight)
Corruptors needed something other than morphing into broodlords which is super expensive.

That's not a great train tbh. Just because another race can do something with an air unit doesn't mean that corruptors should.

Also, Phoenix are sitting ducks when they lift and Vikings have bad DPS and are somewhat weak when they transform from what I recall.

Corruptors are also sitting ducks when they attack a building. All they can do is pick off a single building if there is absolutely no defense.


>sitting ducks
>can just fly away when units arrive
?
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
November 04 2017 23:10 GMT
#1198
ZvZ so excitiiiing
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 04 2017 23:10 GMT
#1199
Rogue winning Blizzcon is more of a story book ending than soO. He's the player who has been grinding it out for years without those great results and not making a lot of money who finally has broken through, qualified for WCS Finals in the last game of the final Korean tournament.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 04 2017 23:10 GMT
#1200
On November 05 2017 08:09 youngjiddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 08:03 DBooN wrote:
On November 05 2017 08:02 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:57 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:53 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:46 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:44 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:37 BigFan wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:33 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
Nope, he doesn't know how to play the game. He never practiced playing mech, he didn't play vs one of the best players in the world. He was actually winging it entire time, too. Maybe he shoul'dve actually kept all of his army defending the satelatie bases so he could've never left his half of the map and let Zerg get to a 5k/5k bank on 80 drones and win the game with ease? We will never know!

his mech play is uninspired and he lost games that he would've won had he went bio.

I'm eager to hear where you got that intel from, especially since the only real bio game they played was the Mech Depot one where TY got massacred.

From my own thoughts obviously ;;

Can you imagine sending devs to kill a cc?

Well a player should put thought behind making units so this feels like Blizzard said, oh no, corruptors will be useless if a player makes too many, so let's give them an ability to hit ground. Feels really silly tbh especially the DPS and you can't repair rofl

Vikings can land and attack ground units.
Phoenix can lift units and attack them. (and take them out of the fight)
Corruptors needed something other than morphing into broodlords which is super expensive.

That's not a great train tbh. Just because another race can do something with an air unit doesn't mean that corruptors should.

Also, Phoenix are sitting ducks when they lift and Vikings have bad DPS and are somewhat weak when they transform from what I recall.

Corruptors are also sitting ducks when they attack a building. All they can do is pick off a single building if there is absolutely no defense.


>sitting ducks
>can just fly away when units arrive
?

Ducks can fly too
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