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And Rogue was just all over the map with those 17+ SH raping bases left and right while INnoVation could literally do nothing.
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Only ZvZ and the most disgusting kind of protoss left :<
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Whatever the solution in that game is.Turtling until BCs or ravens is just retarded .But terran players really want to move thier ground mech army to attack Zerg base you know......
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Welp trust a protoss to drag down a good finals into the gutter of Sc2
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On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now.
Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often.
I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing.
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Dark got outplayed so hard. herO so good.
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fake all in to 3 base macro = GG
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Wait for Rogue you cheeser! :-)
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On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now.
that was good because terran had 10-15 ravens to support them that couldn't be touched because PB didn't exist.
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hero adept play are a nightmare
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On October 01 2017 19:03 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing.
I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see Zerg getting completely wrecked by BCs controlled by a terran that knows what he is doing.
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On October 01 2017 19:04 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. that was good because terran had 10-15 ravens to support them that couldn't be touched because PB didn't exist.
Don't worry, now there are undodgeable seeker missiles 
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On October 01 2017 19:03 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing.
Only BC game I remember was GuMiho stomping soO.
oh and TY's BC rush builds that went not well
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On October 01 2017 19:04 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:03 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see Zerg getting completely wrecked by BCs controlled by a terran that knows what he is doing.
about what games are you guys even talking? I don't see any games with BCs against Zerg. except that one Gumiho game
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that is like some Fisher level double bishop sacrifice five layer all board assault.
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man i want so badly herO to lose
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On October 01 2017 19:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 19:03 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote:On October 01 2017 19:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:58 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote:On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote:On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing. Only BC game I remember was GuMiho stomping soO. oh and TY's BC rush builds that went not well
Hey he went 1-1 with BC rushing against Protoss in competitive matches, that's not bad.
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EPT
