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Dark 3-1 over herO. Rogue 4-1 over Dark. | ||
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(Shit, Artosis hyping Rogue to win TT) | ||
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Vutalisk
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On October 01 2017 12:07 Cricketer12 wrote: dude...herO is actually going to win, and it'll be garbage I prefer herO to be the underdog, especially away from Artosis's curse. | ||
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On October 01 2017 14:34 Zephyp wrote: If Rogue beats Innovation, he's in Blizzcon. If he loses, sOs goes. That's about right? Nope, he need to win it all | ||
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Pandain
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But I could see Rogue taking out Innovations mech. Shame I won't be able to watch either of the quarter finals live. Do partial VODs get uploaded midbroadcast? I want to watch unspoiled but think I'll still have like an hour of the finals left when I get back | ||
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On October 01 2017 15:32 Pandain wrote: No way herO beats Dark! But I could see Rogue taking out Innovations mech. Shame I won't be able to watch either of the quarter finals live. Do partial VODs get uploaded midbroadcast? I want to watch unspoiled but think I'll still have like an hour of the finals left when I get back Just go to the videos tab on twitch and start watching the vod since it's uploaded from the start of the event. When you reach the point at which the vod ends, refresh and start again where you left off since it will be updated while you've been watching. | ||
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On October 01 2017 15:32 Pandain wrote: No way herO beats Dark! historically herO is by far Dark's biggest nemesis with a 30-15 record against him http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=3&ps=76,233&s1=1&s2=2 | ||
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On October 01 2017 16:31 seemsgood wrote: Finals day ? Which means they must play a BO7 right after a stressful BO5 right ? which means Rogue has an advantage since he has more time to rest after his semis. Good for him | ||
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Diabolique
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And if not, sOs can keep his third BlizzCon victory alive! Both options are good! | ||
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Mun_Su
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Still.. go Bogus | ||
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herO vs Dark looks one sided on paper, but one should never count herO out especislly the way he has been playing thiese past few days. Rogue to take it all | ||
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edit: I think Dark would win a Dark vs Innovation remake but I think herO is more likely to win. I think both Rogue and Inno would beat herO though. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Shocked that theyre treating Inno as the underdog Gotta fulfill the Artosis curse | ||
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Oh yeah, right. I forgot sOs also gets point from this GSL. Since sOs made it to Ro8 Rogue needs 1125. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:16 Twinkle Toes wrote: Dark is good, but Rogue is better ????? | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:16 Twinkle Toes wrote: Dark is good, but Rogue is better I think Zest is best | ||
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 Zerg so strong | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:19 Charoisaur wrote: After watching Maru vs Rogue I don't see Rogue ever losing vs mech Yap, Rogue's antimech seems tight right now. He just needs to compose himself during engagements | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:23 seemsgood wrote: Seems bio is dead for now. mech too | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:22 Twinkle Toes wrote: Yap, Rogue's antimech seems tight right now. He just needs to compose himself during engagements Rogue will show those bronze koreans how to use swarmhosts.Foriegners all ready figured it out since beta. | ||
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roach - sh - viper has changed zvt meta | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:25 Charoisaur wrote: Rogue seems to have found the hardcounter vs mech. Against ground mech, yeah. Inno needs to transition. BCs are super strong, so are ravens | ||
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last terran bastion | ||
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Charoisaur
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On October 01 2017 17:29 Pursuit_ wrote: Can't tell if Rogue has figured out mech or if Innovation is just being stubborn he dismantled Maru's mech already and Gumiho's mech at IEM Shanghai. pretty sure it's the first | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:32 Charoisaur wrote: aah the hellbat buffer came like 10 seconds to late. would be a different game would they be there in time He still wouldn't have been able to deal with the muta transition I think | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:32 Charoisaur wrote: aah the hellbat buffer came like 10 seconds to late. would be a different game would they be there in time mutas would still destroy this army though, inno also had no money | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:32 Pursuit_ wrote: He still wouldn't have been able to deal with the muta transition I think 1 cycle of thors from factories would kill all mutas | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:33 Twinkle Toes wrote: Has Rogue figured out mech? He is incredible against both T/P late-game. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:33 Ej_ wrote: 1 cycle of thors from factories would kill all mutas With what money? He was broke. | ||
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because he had to replace all the tanks he lost. If he didn't lose all his tanks he could have afforded thors easily. If he knew mutas were coming. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:37 Charoisaur wrote: because he had to replace all the tanks he lost. If he didn't lose all his tanks he could have afforded thors easily. If he knew mutas were coming. You must spent all scan for mules after SH havoc.I don't think inno did anything wrong in that game beside lacking of harrassment. Gumiho made mech work because he shits on zerg bases while SHs shit on his bases. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This proxy ravager. Has to work on ladder or else pros wouldn't do it, but in serious tournament matches it has a really bad win rate still better than shitty ravager build | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This proxy ravager. Has to work on ladder or else pros wouldn't do it, but in serious tournament matches it has a really bad win rate cuz the pros know their counters | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:44 Twinkle Toes wrote: upper right innovation BOTTOM RIGHT THE RED MECH DESTROYER *zooms in* JIN AIR GREEN WINGS ROGUE | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This proxy ravager. Has to work on ladder or else pros wouldn't do it, but in serious tournament matches it has a really bad win rate soO took a map against Gumiho with it | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:45 Twinkle Toes wrote: Hello there General Kenobi | ||
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OL scouts counter clock wise and sees INnoVation! 2 lings mess with the SCV!!!!! | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:46 Ej_ wrote: INnoVation with a reaper, followed up by a command center on the low ground. OL scouts counter clock wise and sees INnoVation! 2 lings try to mess with the SCV!!!!! fixed that for you | ||
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INNOVATINE BUILD STOLEN RIGHT FROM RYUNG | ||
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Charoisaur
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On October 01 2017 17:47 Morbidius wrote: I really want Rogue at Blizzcon but i also really want Inno vs Dark finals. Dark never wins vs herO so that won't happen anyway | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:47 Twinkle Toes wrote: did he see that? No, he did not see the second Starport | ||
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sashkata
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Not like this build is unheard of.edit nvm, I guess Rogue knows his timings. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:48 sashkata wrote: Why get speed overlords if you are not going to scout the entire base Not like this build is unheard of.edit nvm, I guess Rogue knows his timings. yeah. maybe he knows 1 sp on ramp and number of buildings mean 1 is hidden somethere | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:50 Twinkle Toes wrote: rogue please make some lurkers do you want him to lose? | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:52 sashkata wrote: Oh, Swarmhosts. I though the whole point of the speed banshee was to discourage zerg from going for them. I guess we are about to find out how that works out. I have no idea why people thought that. They can't take out SHs protected by hydras | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:51 Inflicted wrote: Swarmhosts into speed banshees? It's obviously that zerg players will put a couple of hydras to defend banshees.Only Dark says SHs are worthless LUL, | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:55 seemsgood wrote: It's obviously that zerg players will put a couple of hydras to defend banshees.Only Dark says SHs are worthless LUL, If inno had a brain and transitionned to air they would be worthless | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:56 Durnuu wrote: If inno had a brain and transitionned to air they would be worthless Well, now he's running out of money. | ||
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On October 01 2017 17:57 Charoisaur wrote: "Swarmhosts don't work against KR terrans" avilo was right, mech is literally unplayable | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:01 Topdoller wrote: These maps are too big for Mech to work against Zerg Big maps are good for mech and bad for bio. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:01 pvsnp wrote: Think Inno just has to go bio at this point, really in before he 3-0's rogue with bio the next 3 games | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Avilo was right lmao What did Avilo say? | ||
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something like SH hardcounter mech and KR Zergs don't know how to play because they don't build them | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:03 Charoisaur wrote: something like SH hardcounter mech and KR Zergs don't know how to play because they don't build them Nice. Thanks | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:05 seemsgood wrote: Bogus better missle poisoning Rogue in this game.Avoid late game just missle poisoning him. Uhh missle poisoning? | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:06 Inflicted wrote: Terran just needs storm "EMP now causes banelings to detonate" | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:08 Ej_ wrote: nice fake bio from inno, rogue wont suspect a thing after scouting stim and 3 raxes watch him start 3 starports and a fusion core and pump out BCs | ||
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initial 11stim harass bio strikes in multiple expos multi drops to 33 bio ball marco | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:16 Ej_ wrote: Bio is literally unplayable, smh. hydra buff literally made it unplayable | ||
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inno inc he could win now | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:18 Twinkle Toes wrote: where the hell did those lings come from Hatcheries | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:18 Pursuit_ wrote: how is rogue holding on wtf lol I have NO IDEA. What is happening?! | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:18 Pursuit_ wrote: how is rogue holding on wtf lol cuz inno has troops at his base, he has not sent reinforcements | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:19 seemsgood wrote: I'm pretty sure tank splash is the reason why Rogus is still in this game. It's actually because the players can't see the entire minimap or supply count of the opponent. | ||
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go for the kill inno | ||
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it seems bio is still more than viable. Hope players stop playing mech, it really doesn't have good results | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:20 shadymmj wrote: overbuffed zerg, how can half supply zerg hold against tanks in choke? Because they are Protoss xD | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:21 Charoisaur wrote: that was godly play from both players. it seems bio is still more than viable. Hope players stop playing mech, it really doesn't have good results i just want to see someone try a BC transition | ||
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I am hoping Rogue falls off and sOs makes it to Blizzcon, but after this series I'm not too sure anymore - having Rogue at Blizzcon would be awesome.. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:21 Charoisaur wrote: that was godly play from both players. it seems bio is still more than viable. Hope players stop playing mech, it really doesn't have good results he forgot ultra upgrade if those 6 ultra has upgrade he would win this game | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:22 Major wrote: he forgot ultra upgrade if those 6 ultra has upgrade he would win this game oh I didn't notice, that would surely change a lot. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:22 Phredxor wrote: If only that Hydra buff never came through. It killed bio TvZ. Did Inno loose??? | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:22 Major wrote: he forgot ultra upgrade if those 6 ultra has upgrade he would win this game Forgot, or couldn't afford? | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:21 Durnuu wrote: i just want to see someone try a BC transition I want to see moar thor drops.Seems like beside gumiho no one dares to risk 500 mine and 300 gas for harrassing, | ||
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if you can afford 6 ultras you can afford chitinous. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm not sure why casters still pretend a zerg down >30 supply to a bio terran has any hope of coming back. with ultras vs no liberators or ghosts zerg definitely has a chance | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:23 seemsgood wrote: I want to see moar thor drops.Seems like beside gumiho no one dares to risk 500 mine and 300 gas for harrassing, maru did it vs rogue and lost both medivacs to a hydralisk flank | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm not sure why casters still pretend a zerg down >30 supply to a bio terran has any hope of coming back. yeah, maxxed bio terran with tank support could win vs maxxed zerg with 1 upgrade higher. with a 30 supply advantage? zerg is melt | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:23 seemsgood wrote: I want to see moar thor drops.Seems like beside gumiho no one dares to risk 500 mine and 300 gas for harrassing, Maybe Inno will do it at Blizzcon. I could see that working well. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:24 Ej_ wrote: maru did it vs rogue and lost both medivacs to a hydralisk flank What saved inno was that 2-2 tank push and godlike macro to keep the pressure coming and not allowing rogue to mass up while he maintained the upgrade and army advantage | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:24 Durnuu wrote: if you can afford 6 ultras you can afford chitinous. But the upgrade costs as much as an ultra. Probably a bad choice but I can see why someone would think 6>5 with plating that takes forever to finish | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:24 Ej_ wrote: maru did it vs rogue and lost both medivacs to a hydralisk flank Yeah it's risky as hell,only terrorist dares to commit that harrassment. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:25 IcemanAsi wrote: This is one of the best series I've seen in a long time. Yeah, the best since innovation VS Dark | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: But the upgrade costs as much as an ultra. Probably a bad choice but I can see why someone would think 6>5 with plating that takes forever to finish 300/200 > 150/150 | ||
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For some reason I had it in my head that it was 200/200. My macro is never good enough to notice the difference | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:24 Phredxor wrote: Maybe Inno will do it at Blizzcon. I could see that working well. Thor drop into lose game ? | ||
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There are foreigners at blizzcon, so he could probably lose both medivacs and still win. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: For some reason I had it in my head that it was 200/200. My macro is never good enough to notice the difference My macro is never good enough to get to ultras  | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:33 Charoisaur wrote: odyssey is a bad terran map this is going to be a hard one for Inno too many narrow areas for z to surprise him | ||
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his attacks this game could be used as campaign cinematics. true kino. | ||
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Inno's bio play looked so much better than his mech play. Makes me really wonder why he abandoned bio play lately | ||
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Rogue to Blizzcon, please ! | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:40 Charoisaur wrote: pls win this tournament now Rogue. Inno's bio play looked so much better than his mech play. Makes me really wonder why he abandoned bio play lately Bio is really not playable on Acolyte, Odyssey or Ascension | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:40 Charoisaur wrote: pls win this tournament now Rogue. Inno's bio play looked so much better than his mech play. Makes me really wonder why he abandoned bio play lately I´m pretty sure he crushes almost every other player than Rogue with mech. | ||
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How the hell do you play another bo7 ( or is it bo5 ? ) after that? | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:41 IcemanAsi wrote: Finals are today right? How the hell do you play another bo7 ( or is it bo5 ? ) after that? It is today. Rogue will have probably an hour to rest (basically how long Dark vs herO is). | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:41 Twinkle Toes wrote: INnovation, unleash the monster now! lets go to game 7 super micro all game 5 mins up to macro 33 max game from 20 mins up to 2 hours! ALL units used, all spells casted! BEST ZvT game of all time! LETS DO IT!!! It was a best of 5. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:41 Twinkle Toes wrote: INnovation, unleash the monster now! lets go to game 7 super micro all game 5 mins up to macro 33 max game from 20 mins up to 2 hours! ALL units used, all spells casted! BEST ZvT game of all time! LETS DO IT!!! I have some bad news for you. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: Bio is really not playable on Acolyte, Odyssey or Ascension his game on Odyssey against Rogue was much more competitive than his mech games where he just rolled over and died. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: Bio is really not playable on Acolyte, Odyssey or Ascension Yeah. There is a reason Inno 4-0s Dark with straight up mech games while TY goes 0-3 with bio. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:44 Charoisaur wrote: If Roge doesn't win this tournament now I'll be very mad HerO wins with phoenix adept all-ins. | ||
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HerO hasn't qualified for anything in like 3 years. | ||
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herO always wins super tournaments. | ||
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HerO? That would be the most disgusting time line. | ||
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Don't even joke | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:43 sneakyfox wrote: Yeah. There is a reason Inno 4-0s Dark with straight up mech games while TY goes 0-3 with bio. When did Inno ever 4-0 Dark | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:41 IcemanAsi wrote: Finals are today right? How the hell do you play another bo7 ( or is it bo5 ? ) after that? FUCK really? finals are also after dark vs hero? | ||
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You’re a monster | ||
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FUCK | ||
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FUCK | ||
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He won the four games in GSL-semis against Dark that were straight up games (playing mech). | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: He won the four games in GSL-semis against Dark that were straight up games (playing mech). That was 4:3 for Inno, not a 4:0. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:50 seemsgood wrote: Nah HerO will win this tournament.My source is a prophecy come from a group of 30 oracles It is herO! Not HerO... For the last time. | ||
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He meant that of the 4 games in that series that inno went mech, inno won all of them | ||
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Yes. Of which four were straight up games, which Innovation won. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:51 EatingBomber wrote: He meant that of the 4 games in that series that inno went mech, inno won all of them I'm pretty sure Dark won one game against Mech with huge blinding clouds | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:51 sneakyfox wrote: Yes. Of which four were straight up games, which Innovation won. You know Dark is like 10-0 against Inno if you look at the games that Dark won? WOAH! | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:51 sneakyfox wrote: Yes. Of which four were straight up games, which Innovation won. If Inno 4-0'd Dark because we only count straight up games, then Dark 2-0'd TY. Make up your mind. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote: I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them | ||
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Yesterday, you were saying the same about droning to the studio! | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote: Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them Details please. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:54 Twinkle Toes wrote: I love watching zvt but really know next to nothing about the details and ebb and flow of the match up, could someone please elyaaphdmisc2 (Explain Like You Are A PhD Major In SC2) how Rogue totally dominated INnoVation's mech play? He figured out the hardcounter to mech. Mass swarmhosts get normally countered by hellbats so he adds mass banelings to his composition. then the only thing terran can do is sit there and turtle and then Vipers come into play. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:55 Durnuu wrote: Rogue made Swarm Hosts and INnoVation tried nothing to counter them ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:52 Elentos wrote: If Inno 4-0'd Dark because we only count straight up games, then Dark 2-0'd TY. Make up your mind. OK that's true. The point is not to say how good innovation is compared to Dark, it is about bio vs mech. That Dark won against bio on those maps but actually lost every straight up macro game against Innovation's mech. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote: ehhm he tried speedbanshees which were said to stomp SH play. what else should he do? idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. Letting Rogue get units for free over and over with locust waves + vipers while doing nothing was just dumb | ||
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Charoisaur
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On October 01 2017 18:57 Durnuu wrote: idk man, an air transition sounds good when you're on 5 bases (talking about Abyssal Reef here, Whirlwind was different). BCs are really strong. abduct counters BCs pretty hard | ||
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BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. | ||
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Nope | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote: BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. yamato gets cancelled by abduct so they should never go off. | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:56 Charoisaur wrote: He figured out the hardcounter to mech. Mass swarmhosts get normally countered by hellbats so he adds mass banelings to his composition. then the only thing terran can do is sit there and turtle and then Vipers come into play. Ok thanks. But I remember in some games terran always has a wide open timing window against SH, why did INnovation no take advantage of it? And what about wiking/banshee? | ||
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On October 01 2017 18:58 Durnuu wrote: BCs teleport and have yamato to one shot vipers. And are terribly cost-uneffective. | ||
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You clearly haven't played with BCs then. | ||
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You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote: You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:01 Elentos wrote: You know BCs were the go-to transition for mech in 2015 when they were worse than now. that was good because terran had 10-15 ravens to support them that couldn't be touched because PB didn't exist. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see Zerg getting completely wrecked by BCs controlled by a terran that knows what he is doing. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:04 Charoisaur wrote: that was good because terran had 10-15 ravens to support them that couldn't be touched because PB didn't exist. Don't worry, now there are undodgeable seeker missiles  | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: Except that everything else is much better now, and there is a reason why pros don't make them often. I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see BCs getting completely wrecked by Zerg that knows what he is doing. Only BC game I remember was GuMiho stomping soO. oh and TY's BC rush builds that went not well | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:04 Durnuu wrote: I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see Zerg getting completely wrecked by BCs controlled by a terran that knows what he is doing. about what games are you guys even talking? I don't see any games with BCs against Zerg. except that one Gumiho game | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:05 Ej_ wrote: Only BC game I remember was GuMiho stomping soO. oh and TY's BC rush builds that went not well Hey he went 1-1 with BC rushing against Protoss in competitive matches, that's not bad. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:04 Durnuu wrote: I think that pretty much in 9 out of 10 games I see Zerg getting completely wrecked by BCs controlled by a terran that knows what he is doing. Yeah, you are confirmed to have no clue what you are talking about. BCs without point defense drone and HSM sucks ass. But I would love to see pros listen to your advice and have a good laugh. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:06 Mun_Su wrote: man i want so badly herO to lose I want herO to win because Rouge has a better chance against him | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:07 Ramiz1989 wrote: Yeah, you are confirmed to have no clue what you are talking about. BCs without point defense drone and HSM sucks ass. But I would love to see pros listen to your advice and have a good laugh. I don't know man I made mass oracles a thing in PvZ, pros listen to my advice already | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:10 IcemanAsi wrote: I wonder if you could go for quick spire against this. Quick spire vs Protoss is top 3 ways to die immediately I'd say. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:08 seemsgood wrote: Terran can access thier tech way too fast.That's why blizz can't reduce BC's building time. Yeah, itd break the game | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:07 Charoisaur wrote: I want herO to win because Rouge has a better chance against him I don't know... Dark also desserve a chance to win something in 2017, Rogue already has IEM (and Blizzcon is for INno) so... but I think I'll be ok if herO get trashed in finals On October 01 2017 19:08 Durnuu wrote: I don't know man I made mass oracles a thing in PvZ, pros listen to my advice already Metagame is Frenchmen's bitch since Stephano, Durn continue the tradition. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:08 Durnuu wrote: I don't know man I made mass oracles a thing in PvZ, pros listen to my advice already And that's your case? :D First copying my post with few different words, that always makes me laugh, and then saying how you invented mass Oracle. Next I am going to hear how you understand the game really well because you think Adepts are good units. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:12 Ramiz1989 wrote: And that's your case? :D First copying my post with few different words, that always makes me laugh, and then saying how you invented mass Oracle. Next I am going to hear how you understand the game really well because you think Adepts are good units. I can confirm Durn invented mass oracle. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:13 seemsgood wrote: Guys..seriously...In before everyone thought zealots suck but no one could see that with just a tiny buff they suddenly become legit as fuck. they didnt necesserily suck, adepts were just the better choice in almost every situation | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:15 GoloSC2 wrote: they didnt necesserily suck, adepts were just the better choice in almost every situation like zealots with 1-1? they tear through early zerg army | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:16 Twinkle Toes wrote: like zealots with 1-1? they tear through early zerg army And every zerg'late game defend harass options. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:21 Zzzapper wrote: That was so not woth it for herO But he is SO SMART OMG | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:19 RaFox17 wrote: Rogue vs. herO will be wanky as shit. I think Rogue will stabilize the game. Are SH good in ZvP? | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:22 Topdoller wrote: HerO and sOs man, you got to laugh sometimes Maybe its not about the players, abut about the race? I mean Protoss has the most flexibility for craziness, that is why almost all of the players who tend to go with crazy builds are Protoss | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:21 Twinkle Toes wrote: I think Rogue will stabilize the game. Are SH good in ZvP? They are solid, but not against Stargate play. Oracles and Phoenixes can chase them easily. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:28 RKC wrote: Corruptor-ultra v P mid-game. Dark is such an improv genius. ? :D | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:32 sashkata wrote: Can anyone tell me who is the better opponent for Rogue? herO | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:32 sashkata wrote: Can anyone tell me who is the better opponent for Rogue? Innovation. Rogue is ZvP sniper and ZvZ master. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:36 Ramiz1989 wrote: He could've done fucking a-click and still won the game, the only thing he could done to lose is move command and he did exactly that. lengthens the game, but same results i think | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:41 Twinkle Toes wrote: This game s so weird. Dark is not even doing anything fantastic Dark played as well as he could against Adepts, herO fucked up big time. He had enough Adepts at the start to kill him, but derp. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:45 RaFox17 wrote: If herO wins this we will have terrible finals. If he loses it's ZvZ finals, there is no good timeline. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:46 DBooN wrote: If he loses it's ZvZ finals, there is no good timeline. ZvZ or Rogue vs herO??? Hmmmnnn | ||
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Edit: No way herO tries anything else than all-ins against Rogue. | ||
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He usually does against Rogue, from what I remember Rogue was always his kryptonite, but we will see. The thing is, herO is going to play just cheese and no matter if he wins or loses its going to suck ass. | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:52 RaFox17 wrote: We have terrible finals... Edit: No way herO tries anything else than all-ins against Rogue. Game 1: Small adept harass to 15 adept all in Game 2: proxy double gate to adept all-in Game 3: Stargate rush to oracle all in Game 4: Fake DT to adept all in again | ||
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On October 01 2017 19:55 Twinkle Toes wrote: Game 1: Small adept harass to 15 adept all in Game 2: proxy double gate to adept all-in Game 3: Stargate rush to oracle all in Game 4: Fake DT to adept all in again Do you predict adepts?? | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:06 Fango wrote: Inno lost to Rogue? Yet another reinforcement of my theory that mech sucks (he went mech right?) Yeah...and bio too. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:06 Fango wrote: Inno lost to Rogue? Yet another reinforcement of my theory that mech sucks (he went mech right?) He tried both mech and bio, but I think that's hardly an indicator of mech being bad. Rogue just outplayed him. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:06 Fango wrote: Inno lost to Rogue? Yet another reinforcement of my theory that mech sucks (he went mech right?) went 0-2 with mech and 1-1 with bio | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:06 Fango wrote: Inno lost to Rogue? Yet another reinforcement of my theory that mech sucks (he went mech right?) Ground mech does, yes. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:07 Olli wrote: He tried both mech and bio, but I think that's hardly an indicator of mech being bad. Rogue just outplayed him. hmm I think Rogue has pretty much solved mech. The games weren't close at all and he already dismantled Maru's and Gumiho's mech play. When Inno went bio the games were much closer | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:08 Charoisaur wrote: hmm I think Rogue has pretty much solved mech. The games weren't close at all and he already dismantled Maru's and Gumiho's mech play. When Inno went bio the games were much closer I doubt any other Zerg could have played these games the way Rogue did, though. I don't think this series is proof that mech isn't good. I think bio also plays much more to INnoVation's strengths than mech does. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:07 Olli wrote: He tried both mech and bio, but I think that's hardly an indicator of mech being bad. Rogue just outplayed him. Every terran losing with mech over the last few weeks is a good indicator. Like I've said for the whole time, Inno only beat Dark in GSL because Dark didn't expect it. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:12 Fango wrote: Every terran losing with mech over the last few weeks is a good indicator. Like I've said for the whole time, Inno only beat Dark in GSL because Dark didn't expect it. I win with mech a lot. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:07 Olli wrote: It's so funny that herO of all people now has to save sOs' BlizzCon spot. and then sOs will kick herO out of blizzcon 100% -.- | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:14 Charoisaur wrote: last time i saw nydus against oracles the oracles just shat on it yeah | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:18 Twinkle Toes wrote: Skytoss is too strong for zerg... whats the correct response? Ultra queen infestor with hydra or corruptor and mass spore. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:21 Twinkle Toes wrote: what about infestors? fungal and viper combo? It didn't matter what Rogue did from the position he was in after the nydus. The game was over. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:18 Topdoller wrote: has Oracles been buffed recently, they been around forever yet for them to be used en mass is insane ? No changes to them, but some other Protoss strats were nerfed, and pros worked out some safe builds for going heavy oracle. The other thing is that interceptors got a bit cheaper which makes carriers a more viable transition afterwards. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:25 Olli wrote: How? best micro in the world! | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:29 Fango wrote: Is herO actually playing well? Like not exploiting broken shit like in ST1? This time, instead of exploiting phoenix micro, he's exploiting the broken probe micro. got rly lucky vs Zest, sOs and Dark this tournament. SMH | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:29 Fango wrote: Is herO actually playing well? Like not exploiting broken shit like in ST1? i actually dont know, but i think the "Great Book" has a few more chapters in it after today | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:30 Topdoller wrote: i actually dont know, but i think the "Great Book" has a few more chapters in it after today I think it should be broken into multiple volumes. The book is getting quite heavy | ||
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I agree with that actually. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:34 Olli wrote: Rogue played that amazingly after the openings. Did everything right strategically. First the Corruptors, then the ground to counter the gateway switch. Beautiful | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:35 Fango wrote: I take that back. herO got rekt, Rogue's gonna win 4-1 or 4-2 It's hard not to get rekt after the opening. | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:36 DieuCure wrote: Thank you Seeker. INno vs Rogue was the best tvz I have seen since TY vs Rogue gsl s2 Actually, it was great but not 100% great, maybe 90-95 max. I feel like Rogue was at 100% but INnoVation was in the high 70s or low 80s. Or maybe Rogue just got him completely figured out thats why he looks so helpless in some games | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:38 Ej_ wrote: I would rate INnoVation vs Rogue at around 94,37% greatness. I was think 93.87352875365565467429% | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:38 Ej_ wrote: I would rate INnoVation vs Rogue at around 94,37% greatness. looks about right to me | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:37 Twinkle Toes wrote: Actually, it was great but not 100% great, maybe 90-95 max. I feel like Rogue was at 100% but INnoVation was in the high 70s or low 80s. Or maybe Rogue just got him completely figured out thats why he looks so helpless in some games Well, but a 100% INno vs a 100% Rogue wouldn't be great | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:47 DieuCure wrote: May the 2nd best zerg of the world attend to blizzcon #1 is Cure right | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:47 Fango wrote: This next game's adept allin pretty much determines if herO has a chance or not Pretty funny that hero has no other choice but to adept all in. Rogue got this i think | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:48 royalroadweed wrote: Its a good thing that we judge the meta based on your ladder games then. Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were exchanging anecdotes? | ||
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Obviously ... Should we always specify the common truths? | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:53 Fango wrote: Is sOs allowed to tell herO how to win in this scenario? 280k isn't 100k$ after all, so why would sOs want to go there ? | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:49 Ej_ wrote: Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were exchanging anecdotes? We are, but hey they will select ones that matters to them. h3h3h3 | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:55 Twinkle Toes wrote: blue zerg, yet another good astrological sign for rogue Astrological? Dafaq is with you today? | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:56 Twinkle Toes wrote: how much is the blizzcon prize pool? they keep bringing it up 700,000 dollars | ||
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relax lol. im just trying inject some craziness in the lrs and enjoy the games. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:02 IcemanAsi wrote: Damn, this one goes to Hero and I don't have enough time for another one Be strong my friend. This is the last GSL of the year and we are having some good and great games | ||
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On October 01 2017 20:59 Twinkle Toes wrote: relax lol. im just trying inject some craziness in the lrs and enjoy the games. That's nice, but 90% of posts in this thread are yours. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:08 egrimm wrote: empty third into adept all-in ? looks like it | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:10 Ej_ wrote: Leave Twinkle Toes alone. No way, shitposting is one thing but his spam and effort level is Twitch chat tier | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:12 Ej_ wrote: Swarm hosts vs carriers. Finally we are back to the highest skill era. There are swarm hosts? I am so happy | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:12 Twinkle Toes wrote: This is called old-school LRing. For the benefit of the 2 or 3 TLers who cant watch the stream live Your spam has the complete opposite effect, filling the thread with "sad" and "speedlord" so any actual discussion of the games and players gets flushed out If you think what you're doing is live reporting, at least format your posts and use time stamps | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:16 sashkata wrote: How many corrupter does it take to one shot carriers? a lot | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:15 Inflicted wrote: herO throwing to get into an easier group I know you're joking but the prize pool difference between first and second here is large enough that he'd have to make it to the semis at blizzcon for that to be worth it | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:16 DieuCure wrote: Neeb is crying, I can hear it Only because HerO forgot archons. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:16 sashkata wrote: How many corrupter does it take to one shot carriers? How many fungals it takes to hurt a carrier? | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:18 RaFox17 wrote: How many fungals it takes to hurt a carrier? how long does a cyclone need to kill a BC? | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:19 Charoisaur wrote: how long does a cyclone need to kill a BC? How many banelings does it take to kill an ultralisk? | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:20 Ej_ wrote: How many banelings does it take to kill an ultralisk? 27 assuming both at 3/3 | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:20 Diabolique wrote: Rogue should have been the GSL Season 2 Champion! I think that should've been DRGling. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:20 Ej_ wrote: How many banelings does it take to kill an ultralisk? Can a BC be killed by a queen? | ||
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Some Zergs don't forget chitinous plating though | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:22 Charoisaur wrote: Some Zergs don't forget chitinous plating though Way ahead of you there, it would be 24 without e: This also means that plating for 1 ultra isn't worth it if it's gonna be fighting only banelings. Very important to know | ||
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hero needs to be sneaky here. he cant allow Rogue to go swarm zerg on him again | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:28 Twinkle Toes wrote: This empty expansion is always tricky for protoss in this map. Hero needs to decide fast whether to attack or extend to mid/late game Rogue helped him decide that | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:29 DieuCure wrote: Don't win herO please lol. everyone is saying this now | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:29 RaFox17 wrote: Oh shit. It´s gonna be adept all-in. One build to leave a bad taste to everyone Of course. It probably is going to be like 2 Oracles into mass Adepts all-in. Revelation might be the dumbest ability that ever existed in this game for so long without getting touched. | ||
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herO red P at 1 | ||
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Many great games, Epic atmosphere | ||
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That drop could've been handled better but I think it did enough | ||
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Austria24417 Posts
On October 01 2017 21:35 Twinkle Toes wrote: manner pylon That's 8 posts in a row. Please calm down a bit. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:36 Charoisaur wrote: I can barely watch this. so exciting Dont watch. I got you, just read my lr | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Twinkle Toes speedrunning to carrier icon He's actually going for ultra but it turns out you save a few frames by spamming with protoss | ||
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User was warned for this post | ||
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sOs Can't wait for zergs to keep saying it's impossible to win vs P | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:44 Gurbak wrote: sos I would rather have 10 sOs at Blizzcon than 1 herO, really. | ||
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United States3605 Posts
It was his day though. Good builds, good control. Inno was not his 100% self and rogue crushed him. good adjustment and strategy vs sneaky hero, and with astrological luck on his side, he is bound to win this! GG Rogue!!! | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Rogue sOs Can't wait for zergs to keep saying it's impossible to win vs P next series where the Zerg loses they'll be back | ||
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soO/Nerchio/Rogue/Neeb Dark/Kelazhur/herO/Elazer INno/TRUE/GuMiho/Serral | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:44 Charoisaur wrote: a blizzcon ticket well deserved True. You have to be happy for a guy like that. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Rogue sOs Can't wait for zergs to keep saying it's impossible to win vs P Just wait till P wins vs Z again the very next time | ||
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GOGOGOGOGOGO ROGUE | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:49 Makro wrote: jeez rogue is only 150 points ahead of sOs Can we take 1 spot from WCS and give it to sOs? | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote: Fuck yeah Rogue, I can't wait to see him at Blizzcon. Probably one of the best and most innovative Zergs. Quick to adjust too. Most of his games where hero throws crazy shit after crazy shit at him, he manages to stay composed and adjust his game plan. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:50 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Can we take 1 spot from WCS and give it to sOs? Yes but you would have to personally tell the WCS player you decided he can't go | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Yes but you would have to personally tell the WCS player you decided he can't go "Sorry man, you're not sOs, you're out!" | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Yes but you would have to personally tell the WCS player you decided he can't go most TL posters consider international SC2 pros to be subhuman so that wouldn't be a problem | ||
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Inflicted
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On October 01 2017 21:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Yes but you would have to personally tell the WCS player you decided he can't go If it was that easy, we'd have 16 koreans | ||
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Probably the closest anyone's ever missed out on blizzcon? | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:54 Vindicare605 wrote: I feel sad that sOs won't be at Blizzcon this year, but Rogue has been a monster all year Blizzcon wouldn't feel right without him. Rogue, a monster all year ? Please | ||
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France16890 Posts
On October 01 2017 21:55 Fango wrote: If sOs had won one of those game against Inno. Or actually been in any of the non-GSL tournament's. Probably the closest anyone's ever missed out on blizzcon? clearly one of the closest i thought rogue winning would give him a bigger edge, looks like it's still close | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
On October 01 2017 21:55 Fango wrote: Probably the closest anyone's ever missed out on blizzcon? A while back there was a tie breaker. I think Forgg was one of the players. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
definitely not a monster all year but for the last 3-4 months he has been a top 3 player so he really should be at blizzcon- | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:56 sashkata wrote: A while back there was a tie breaker. I think Forgg was one of the players. Fantasy vs Hyun and Naniwa vs Revival were the tiebreakers we had. | ||
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Colouss
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On October 01 2017 21:56 Makro wrote: clearly one of the closest i thought rogue winning would give him a bigger edge, looks like it's still close What about that finals where Fantasy 3-2 Hyun to get into blizzcon? They were literally tied in points. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:53 DieuCure wrote: Gg Rogue, top 8 Korea is competitive now Who you got? Too many good players its hard to choose after INnovation, Rogue, and maybe Dark...? | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:56 sashkata wrote: A while back there was a tie breaker. I think Forgg was one of the players. That tiebreaker was won 3-2 I believe? I still think sOs's was close because of the sheer number of single maps that would have swayed it If sOs won the last game against Losira in gsl s2, the last game against Bunny for IEM shangai, or the last game against Inno in gsl s3, he'd be going. Also if Inno or herO took the last game against Rogue today | ||
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Oh well, I'll Check out the VODs anyways. Really Happy with Rogue going to Blizzcon! Three zerg, three terran, two protoss from Korea. Five zerg, two terran, one protoss from Circuit. A few more protoss from Circuit would be nice, but I like zerg, so I'm fine with it. | ||
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On October 01 2017 21:57 Charoisaur wrote: definitely not a monster all year but for the last 3-4 months he has been a top 3 player so he really should be at blizzcon- If you include IEM, practically the last 6 months | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On October 01 2017 21:55 Fango wrote: If sOs had won one of those game against Inno. Or actually been in any of the non-GSL tournament's. Probably the closest anyone's ever missed out on blizzcon? It would have been Rogue anyway. Because of this lucky 0.2sc soO's queen | ||
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DieuCure
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On October 01 2017 22:52 Shellshock wrote: INNO!? SLUMP!? He is clearly overrated, he can't carry his race and he can't even 3-0 everybody lol what a shame. That's why he isn't the GOAT. | ||
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LTCM
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So, which zerg whinner will eat crow first? | ||
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Hephaistas89
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On October 01 2017 23:01 LTCM wrote: After all that talk about zerg being UP in korea, they get three into blizzcon. So, which zerg whinner will eat crow first? These three have been insanely consistant this year compared to a lot of good protoss and terran players | ||
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On October 02 2017 02:19 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? all of them | ||
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
definitely all brilliant | ||
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pvsnp
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ALL OF THEM | ||
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LiON71
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On October 01 2017 21:50 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Can we take 1 spot from WCS and give it to sOs? I would vote for that!! I was thinking about this today. Classic won't be going, sOs won't be going. I don't understand why they've divided the spots equally between Korea vs Europe/americas. They should just use total points but yes they are doing this so Korea won't dominate...... | ||
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You just cannot beat Rogue with mech, he attacked in with locust/viper to garantee damage and slow the terran down for the most part. When it came to the big push, he suicided banes into the hellbat line and then quickly maxed out on lings to sweep the ramaining tanks and thors before Inno had a chance to move in It's not even like Inno played badly or was unlucky either, that game on mech depot was brilliant. Inno's micro and pushing power is a spectacle | ||
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On October 02 2017 07:49 Fango wrote: I didn't catch the ro4 earlier only the finals. I just finished watching Rogue vs Inno and holy shit, Rogue is incredible. The way he dismantled every move from Inno was insane. The burrowed banelings, the ling counters, the mass muta and ling switches. I don't think Rogue quite has the mechanics of Dark or Life just yet, but for sure he knows how to win You just cannot beat Rogue with mech, he attacked in with locust/viper to garantee damage and slow the terran down for the most part. When it came to the big push, he suicided banes into the hellbat line and then quickly maxed out on lings to sweep the ramaining tanks and thors before Inno had a chance to move in It's not even like Inno played badly or was unlucky either, that game on mech depot was brilliant. Inno's micro and pushing power is a spectacle I am mildly disgruntled to find that you hadn't watched the games yet when you were talking to me about Inno's TvZ chances at Blizzcon. Hopefully you see what I meant when I said I give SH less credit and Rogue more credit for defeating mech. I'm far from convinced that Serral or any other foreign Zerg could pull off the same victories against Inno. Not to mention, for all that you credit surprise for allowing Inno to defeat Dark, surprise played an equally big factor in the Inno vs Rogue series; that was the first time I've seen Inno play against SH. Presumably Inno is now working on a counter at this very moment. And given what he showed on Mech Depot, it's hardly like he must go mech either. He's not Gumiho, he has plenty of skill with bio TvZ. | ||
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On October 02 2017 07:45 Keyboard Warrior wrote: Recommended games? VODS are up already? VODs are up + Show Spoiler [Semi-Final 1] + + Show Spoiler [Semi-Final 2] + + Show Spoiler [Grand Finals] + | ||
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On October 02 2017 08:15 pvsnp wrote: I am mildly disgruntled to find that you hadn't watched the games yet when you were talking to me about Inno's TvZ chances at Blizzcon. Hopefully you see what I meant when I said I give SH less credit and Rogue more credit for defeating mech. I'm far from convinced that Serral or any other foreign Zerg could pull off the same victories against Inno. Not to mention, for all that you credit surprise for allowing Inno to defeat Dark, surprise played an equally big factor in the Inno vs Rogue series; that was the first time I've seen Inno play against SH. Presumably Inno is now working on a counter at this very moment. And given what he showed on Mech Depot, it's hardly like he must go mech either. He's not Gumiho, he has plenty of skill with bio TvZ. I already knew which games were mech from reading the LR earlier anyway. He got crushed in both games he tried to do it. It was yet another example of mech not working. The three reasonably close games were the 2 bio ones and the rush game. Also, I was saying that Inno would lose if he went mech before the matches even happened today, the results only reinforced my opinion. Yes I agree Rogue played absolutely perfect, and that Inno was still impressive. But my judgement of mech is based of the korean terran collective, not restricted to Inno. It just loses to zergs that know how to deal with it. I've said over the course of this entire tournament that every player who goes mech will lose, and iirc they all did. (and I'm not trying to balance whine btw, I think terran balance is fine, just this mech is not a viable style right now. Ultimately, I will not be convinced otherwise until I see high level terrans sersiously beating zergs with it. As far as I'm concerned that's not happened yet beyond the inital Inno vs Dark series that boosted mech into the meta) | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On October 02 2017 08:55 Fango wrote: I already knew which games were mech from reading the LR earlier anyway. He got crushed in both games he tried to do it. It was yet another example of mech not working. The three reasonably close games were the 2 bio ones and the rush game. Also, I was saying that Inno would lose if he went mech before the matches even happened today, the results only reinforced my opinion. Yes I agree Rogue played absolutely perfect, and that Inno was still impressive. But my judgement of mech is based of the korean terran collective, not restricted to Inno. It just loses to zergs that know how to deal with it. I've said over the course of this entire tournament that every player who goes mech will lose, and iirc they all did. (and I'm not trying to balance whine btw, I think terran balance is fine, just this mech is not a viable style right now. Ultimately, I will not be convinced otherwise until I see high level terrans sersiously beating zergs with it. As far as I'm concerned that's not happened yet beyond the inital Inno vs Dark series that boosted mech into the meta) Every Terran who tried to go bio also died. Maru got 3-0'd 2 mech games 1 bio game, and he did much better with the mech games than the one bio game. Dark 3-0'd Bunny's bio like he wasn't even trying. The second bio game of Innovation's didn't seem particularly close either after Rogue knew what to expect, and those games were on maps with much smaller rush distances with Innovation getting away with some of the greediest openings (3 cc into 2 hellion double eng no wall at natural?) which makes those bio / tank pushes a lot more viable. I think it was more just Rogue outplaying everyone. | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On October 02 2017 18:03 seemsgood wrote: I would say Gumiho has better chance against Rogue with mech due to his risky playstyle.At least unlike other terrans he won't let zerg player just pin terran down at third bases and expand mindlessly till 5k bank.I don't think without that risky counter harrassment style mech would stand a chance against zerg in economy.But RISKY means it's not gonna work everytime. Yeah that my way of thinking as well. I hear all this talk about SH hard countering Mech, I agree that they are way too cheap but if you just camp and defend against SHs, that's a recipe for a loss. Gumibro is very active and play different kind of Mech than most others so he can definitely take Zergs off guard. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 03 2017 00:37 Fango wrote: All this talk about playstyles is great until you realize that Gumiho's TvZ in general isn't that good. The only zergs he's beaten in the past 6 months are Elazer and soO (iirc), two people known for being not good vs terran Gumiho would get stomped by Rogue or Dark, sure, but I would not count him out so quickly against foreign Zergs. I very much doubt that he will lose to True, and despite all the hype Serral has yet to really deliver on the big stage. Blizzcon is the biggest stage of them all. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On October 03 2017 00:37 Fango wrote: All this talk about playstyles is great until you realize that Gumiho's TvZ in general isn't that good. The only zergs he's beaten in the past 6 months are Elazer and soO (iirc), two people known for being not good vs terran But he is good at preparing builds. | ||
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