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rofl. That game was... beautiful!
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On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote:On July 14 2017 23:22 raff100 wrote: What's Zerg answer to mass carriers? Does it exist? Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He isn't great at positioning and his army control is rather lacking as well. The rest is atypical but at the very least extremely interesting.
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On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote:On July 14 2017 23:22 raff100 wrote: What's Zerg answer to mass carriers? Does it exist? Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too.
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On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote:On July 14 2017 23:22 raff100 wrote: What's Zerg answer to mass carriers? Does it exist? Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too. Zerg needs 3 hotkeys at GSL level so that's not a surprise.
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the mono battle line was hilarious....
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On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote:On July 14 2017 23:22 raff100 wrote: What's Zerg answer to mass carriers? Does it exist? Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too. does he stream from time to time ?
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I guess tomorrow we can tune in much later, considering upper bracket full of ZvZ's
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On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote:On July 14 2017 23:22 raff100 wrote: What's Zerg answer to mass carriers? Does it exist? Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too.
I assume you're trolling but that's an interesting question, I don't think he would do too well but I'd like to see it.
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On July 14 2017 23:38 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote:On July 14 2017 23:22 raff100 wrote: What's Zerg answer to mass carriers? Does it exist? Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too. I assume you're trolling but that's an interesting question, I don't think he would do too well but I'd like to see it. Nah he offraced Zerg in some Taiwanese tournaments. Mostly(only?) in ZvZ of course.
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I think Has could have won that 4th game if he kept up his Macro and multitasking, crazy.
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On July 14 2017 23:40 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:38 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote: [quote] Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too. I assume you're trolling but that's an interesting question, I don't think he would do too well but I'd like to see it. Nah he offraced Zerg in some Taiwanese tournaments. Mostly(only?) in ZvZ of course.
Oh okay sorry Elentos
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On July 14 2017 23:40 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:38 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote: [quote] Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too. I assume you're trolling but that's an interesting question, I don't think he would do too well but I'd like to see it. Nah he offraced Zerg in some Taiwanese tournaments. Mostly(only?) in ZvZ of course. Yeah only in ZvZ. He wasn't confident enough to play PvZ vs Winter so he played ZvZ and they went all the way to game 5.
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On July 14 2017 23:40 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:38 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2017 23:36 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:31 Nebuchad wrote:On July 14 2017 23:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 14 2017 23:27 Ej_ wrote:On July 14 2017 23:26 raff100 wrote:On July 14 2017 23:23 Durnuu wrote: [quote] Depends if there are templars or not. Without templars it's not that good With templars is just altf4,but there's a way to counter mass carriers only ? pure carrier actually loses to corruptors, if they don't have detection even infestors win. Then there's spores+abduct. Carrier is a really weak unit without support. yeah here Elazer never had the eco to support a sufficient corruptor transition, otherwise he'd have been fine since Has was just going for mass carriers It makes sense that he would go for an hydra push after the early game and hydra push is not the right response to what Has was doing, it's a well planned game overall never said it wasn't, I actually agree ridiculous though the game may have looked In fact most things Has does look silly but have a sensible plan behind them Has isn't great at positioning, the rest of his protoss is good to great. His terran would suck obviously but that's probably why he doesn't play terran. He's an okay Zerg player too. I assume you're trolling but that's an interesting question, I don't think he would do too well but I'd like to see it. Nah he offraced Zerg in some Taiwanese tournaments. Mostly(only?) in ZvZ of course. consciously electing to play ZvZ instead of PvZ reveals a twisted mind that surprises me even coming from Has
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there was a time when watching TvT was really enjoyable, in fact I was looking forward to that mu. Not the case anymore to say the least
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On July 14 2017 23:49 sparklyresidue wrote: Reaper madness? Why the question mark ?
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On July 14 2017 23:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:there was a time when watching TvT was really enjoyable, in fact I was looking forward to that mu. Not the case anymore to say the least  Well, atleast it's not tankivac TvT. That shit literally made me quit the game for a while:D
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On July 14 2017 23:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:there was a time when watching TvT was really enjoyable, in fact I was looking forward to that mu. Not the case anymore to say the least  I hope we see a lot of reapers
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On July 14 2017 23:50 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 23:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:there was a time when watching TvT was really enjoyable, in fact I was looking forward to that mu. Not the case anymore to say the least  Well, atleast it's not tankivac TvT. That shit literally made me quit the game for a while:D oh definitely not, that was before lotv
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